I presonally think Douglas is on borrowed time.

 

Something has to change,whatever it is,pretty fucking sharpish.

 

So if Dougie Freedman does get potted either now or when we are relegated,who do we get in?

 

Warnock for me.

 

It really is that bad.

Mears, Sordell, Pratley, Andrews, Eagles, Ream, Knight, Moritz (if Mavies stays ).Chungy will probably go if we're offered the reported £3m.

 

Mills has earned a reprieve if he's on sensible wages.

 

is ream deadwood though?  granted he's on high wages, but him and mills (who can stay) did well at CB, in fact, when them two played together there we probably had our best results (not checked that, might not be right, though difficult to point to a spell where we were good)

 

he's not as good at LB and our performances aren't as good, but that's because DF won't play Whyte (because he might get ruined) and instead plays Knight (who is on many deadwood's list)

 

Mortiz was DFs gift

 

there's so many holes in the deadwood debate that it's becoming apparent that it's an excuse for piss poor management

Anyone here know what the financial implications of relegation, even for just one season, would be? 

Less games on Sky, less crowds?

What about a statement from  Gartside,he is keeping his head below the parapet.

Statement for what? Why?

is ream deadwood though?  granted he's on high wages, but him and mills (who can stay) did well at CB, in fact, when them two played together there we probably had our best results (not checked that, might not be right, though difficult to point to a spell where we were good)

 

 

i'd agree, without checking, that it was our best spell

 

that may well have had more to do with mcnaughton playing than ream

 

like i say, may

 

 

 

 

one thing i have gradually come around to is that he's not saying any of them are shit

 

he has said they are on wages higher than those we can afford which is something different

 

what he's regularly saying is that mentally theyre not up to it

 

every time we concede, we have no answer, unless like forest and boro they decide not to feel sorry for themselves and do something about it

Well if the board fail to act then. The fans need to stay away in disgust so that the wankers get the message. Once and for all

 

 

Not for me, Bolton are my team and even though they are shit at the moment I will not stay away.I am not a liar and when I have sung" Bolton till i die" or" we'll support you ever more" I Meant it.

 

The thought of just following us when we are good would make me feel as dirty as the cunts up the road. 

A lot of extra cost going to new grounds and grounds we haven't been to for years

What about a statement from  Gartside,he is keeping his head below the parapet.

 

 

you got one about three weeks ago

 

since then we've lost to 3 teams in the top six and chucked away a two goal lead

Eddie Davis is keeping his head below the parapet too.

Not for me, Bolton are my team and even though they are shit at the moment I will not stay away.I am not a liar and when I have sung" Bolton till i die" or" we'll support you ever more" I Meant it.

 

The thought of just following us when we are good would make me feel as dirty as the cunts up the road. 

 

must agree

 

the 'fans' who stay away will be the same ones that have dined out on being at the darlington game when really they were watching emmerdale

 

i'm certainly not being told what i should do by part timers

Less games on Sky, less crowds?

 

 

Aye, obvs.

 

I was just wondering in terms of £.

 

I'm just curious as to how much more/less would it be than the cost of removing the current managerial team.

must agree

 

the 'fans' who stay away will be the same ones that have dined out on being at the darlington game when really they were watching emmerdale

 

i'm certainly not being told what i should do by part timers

Both post bang on. I'm here to stay good, bad or even as now terrible, can't see what's to be gained by spitting dummy out and not going ( i prefer to spit dummy out and continue to attend don't cut nose off to spite your face.

Edited February 13, 201412 yr by Mounts Kipper

Aye, obvs.

 

I was just wondering in terms of £.

 

I'm just curious as to how much more/less would it be than the cost of removing the current managerial team.

If we did get relegated and started to play well we might be on more often, we've still got 8 million from premier money next season and you never know crowds might increase if we're winning. However we really do need to stay up.

It's not the Cassie's & MK's of the support that the club need to worry about losing though is it?

 

It's also not the 'fans' in the stadium either.

 

We lost a generation in the 80's, the upstarts down the road should be concentrating on egg chasing too.

 

Then there's the usual suspects.

 

We can ride a blip but not a sustained fall. It doesn't bare thinking about.

i know where you're coming from

 

daughter opted out on tuesday but she's in liverpool and i don't think id have bothered coming from there either

 

lad decided at 10 to 7 to make the effort

 

then booed them off

 

he's 14

I blame the parents.

I blame the parents.

 

 

I have posted elsewhere about my lad fucking me off to go with his mates. they started out with 4 now it's up to a dozen. The future's bright The future's White. 

you got one about three weeks ago

 

since then we've lost to 3 teams in the top six and chucked away a two goal lead

So lost alot then??

 

Under OC you'd be seething irrespective of the opposition in this league

 

Absolutely bonkers

i would

 

if we were 20 places lower than when freedman arrived, i'd be seething now

 

but, we're not and i'm happy that all in the garden is rosy

 

coyle got less ppg than megson, so how shit must he have been

What about a statement from  Gartside,he is keeping his head below the parapet.

 

Who is he? The Dalai Lama? I don't get why he needs to make constant proclaimations.

 

He's a bloody administrator and as such, should be spending his time trying to sort out the mess we have and doing what the fuck he is told by Eddie Davies.

 

The last thing a manager probably wants or needs is an executive bleating to the fans and/or media. I can't see what we, the fans, would get out of it either.

 

Freedman is still in a job, tells you everything you need to know about what Eddie Davies and Gartside are thinking.

i would

 

if we were 20 places lower than when freedman arrived, i'd be seething now

 

but, we're not and i'm happy that all in the garden is rosy

 

coyle got less ppg than megson, so how shit must he have been

So you'll judge all against OC's standards and DF will only be the wrong man if he manages that??

 

Keep coming with the excuses for backing him without logic and only because he ain't OC and you stuck your neck out....

 

And no matter how far we fall, it won't make your second love Megson a decent Manager

 

The employment market agrees with that too

Honestly thinks that's half the problem mate.

 

Not the same getting bollocked and shouted at by a 39 year old bloke that's still wet behind the ears.

 

He's telling players off that have played at a higher level than he ever did and probably think they know more about the game than him.

 

It would be ok If he was a tactical genius.

 

But he's not.

That's my thoughts. Reading between the lines of them tweets and what I see on the pitch is that they don't like him. But more importantly don't respect him and regardless of who I believe is right or wrong, these situations rarely get mended through seeing it out.

 

Oh I am sorry Bolty ha ha. I see your point but I think the days of taking no crap are long gone and there needs to be a balance of man management due to higher status and wages of players.

 

As for fucking the baddun's off. I am sure Dougie has tried his best but these lads aren't going anywhere till contract expiry.

must agree

 

the 'fans' who stay away will be the same ones that have dined out on being at the darlington game when really they were watching emmerdale

 

i'm certainly not being told what i should do by part timers

Stay away as a protest against the management and show gartside that we have had enough you fruit cake. As it stands 16k turned up against burnley so the board think all is well with attendances like that

For the record, dougie doesn't speak to players, he is surrounded by his staff, he walks around in circles with his head to the ground and mutters his words. Its his staff who get the messages across. No wonder they have no respect for him if he can't look them in the eyes and talk to them