This Scotch Vote

[RoadRunnerFan]

Would Partridge have to take his passport to drive up to Dundee in bare feet? That's the key question here.

[Spider]

Would Partridge have to take his passport to drive up to Dundee in bare feet? That's the key question here.

No

 

He only needs Toblerone

[Not in Crawley]

No nerve touched, it's just not true to say that a centre left party would never get into power without Scotland. Also, whatever happens, as I said previously nothing is going to stay the same now; the only status quo will be on their next world tour, Alan.

 

And again to say Salmon is a communist marks you out as a bit foolish. If you'd have said he's an odious prick, I'd have agreed.

 

Seems like there is ill informed opinions and half truths on both sides of the boarder.

[Spider]

Salmond is an odious prick.

 

If we keep agreeing like this, we shall have to buy our own holiday yurt

[Not in Crawley]

I'll get it booked, Kent knows a lovely kibbutz near the Forrest of Dean. We can play old grunge bands whilst Bolty sorts out a decent BBQ

[Guest]

No nerve touched, it's just not true to say that a centre left party would never get into power without Scotland. Also, whatever happens, as I said previously nothing is going to stay the same now; the only status quo will be on their next world tour, Alan.

 

And again to say Salmon is a communist marks you out as a bit foolish. If you'd have said he's an odious prick, I'd have agreed.

 

Seems like there is ill informed opinions and half truths on both sides of the boarder.

 

 

Clearly an odious prick

 

Wiki confirms;

 

 

Salmond started his political life as a committed left-winger inside the SNP and was a leading member of the socialist republican organisation within it, the 79 Group. He was, along with other group leaders, suspended from membership of the SNP when the 79 Group was banned within the larger party. In 1981, he married Moira French McGlashan,^[18] then a senior civil servant with the Scottish Office.

[waffer cup 07]

Salmond,s on a massive ego trip. Hope they vote yes and then watch them sink.

[Youri McAnespie]

Isn't everyone a commie at some point, usually the beginning?

 

Peter Hitchens was born in 1951 in Malta, where his father, a career naval officer,^[2] was stationed with the Royal Navy. He was educated at The Leys School^[3] and the Oxford College of Further Education^[4] before being accepted at the University of York, where he studied Philosophy and Politics and was a member of Alcuin College, graduating in 1973.^[5] Hitchens began on the far left of the political spectrum before moving to the right. He was a member of the Trotskyist International Socialists from 1969 to 1975...

[Not in Crawley]

Clearly an odious prick

 

Wiki confirms;

 

 

Salmond started his political life as a committed left-winger inside the SNP and was a leading member of the socialist republican organisation within it, the 79 Group. He was, along with other group leaders, suspended from membership of the SNP when the 79 Group was banned within the larger party. In 1981, he married Moira French McGlashan,^[18] then a senior civil servant with the Scottish Office.

This is getting boring now, BD. He's not a communist. Do you actual know what socialism is and how it's different to communism? Or are you as dumb as your posts?

[Guest]

This is getting boring now, BD. He's not a communist. Do you actual know what socialism is and how it's different to communism? Or are you as dumb as your posts?

 

 

I expected it to result in these comments and insults.

[Maggie Tate]

Isn't everyone a commie at some point, usually the beginning?

 

Peter Hitchens was born in 1951 in Malta, where his father, a career naval officer,^[2] was stationed with the Royal Navy. He was educated at The Leys School^[3] and the Oxford College of Further Education^[4] before being accepted at the University of York, where he studied Philosophy and Politics and was a member of Alcuin College, graduating in 1973.^[5] Hitchens began on the far left of the political spectrum before moving to the right. He was a member of the Trotskyist International Socialists from 1969 to 1975...

 

As was his far superior and much missed brother Christopher. And many of the senior members of New Labour. It's fine to be a Trot or flirt with extremism when you're 17 and angry and confused but what is important is that you grow out of it and don't become tempted in adult life to things like environmentalism, wind farms and pacifism.

[Not in Crawley]

I expected it to result in these comments and insults.

Keep posting lazy rot then. It's boring, BD.

[Youri McAnespie]

As was his far superior and much missed brother Christopher. And many of the senior members of New Labour. It's fine to be a Trot or flirt with extremism when you're 17 and angry and confused but what is important is that you grow out of it and don't become tempted in adult life to things like environmentalism, wind farms and pacifism.

I was tempted by a windfarm t'other week, it offered me a toke on a spliff, but I politely declined.

 

Organized environmentalism is another sphere riddled with impractical dogmas, but I see nowt wrong in looking after one's own patch of the planet, reducing consumption of utter shite and unnecessary consumables is a start. The Earth's resources are finite, I see nowt wrong with spinning them out as long as it's not to the detriment of human progress - a dancing Coke Can or ten disposable lighters for a quid isn't human progress.

 

Pacifism, well, as long as there's folk out there bent on destroying our way of life, it's something else that needs to be ignored, just because I don't want to eat the dog, I realise that doesn't mean the dog is similarly uninterested in making a meal of me.

[kent_white]

I'll get it booked, Kent knows a lovely kibbutz near the Forrest of Dean. We can play old grunge bands whilst Bolty sorts out a decent BBQ

Do you know what - I reckon we'd all have a thoroughly good time!

[bolty58]

Do you not see the irony in calling me predictable and then posting this? Of course! Get with the programme.

 

I'm afraid the majority of English folk would quite happily keep the Union as is. You can't prove that just as I can't prove the other way. Let the people speak (and they spoke in Switzerland).

 

Hardly a socialist paradise, the SNP are more rightwing than Labour, its Salmon's political nous that allows him to be seen as both left, centre and right; that's because he plays the nationalist card very well. Right. Left. Makes no matter. They are going down the tubes if they vote to part and it will be a delicious watch.

 

I'd move to Edinburgh or Glasgow in a heartbeat, not because of my political leanings, just because I think they are wonderful cities, made a lot of friends there and the cost of living is so much better, my children are in the south east, and until they are old enough to fly the nest, I'll be down here. Shame. Kent tells me you look good in a skirt.

[bolty58]

NIC is correct in his last pronouncement. Whatever the outcome of next weeks vote there will be increasing demands for devolutionary powers in the future for all parts of the UK - or what's left of it.  Hopefully this won't lead to yet another (4th) tier of government.

 

 

ENP anyone?

[bolty58]

No nerve touched, it's just not true to say that a centre left party would never get into power without Scotland. Also, whatever happens, as I said previously nothing is going to stay the same now; the only status quo will be on their next world tour, Alan.

 

And again to say Salmon is a communist marks you out as a bit foolish. If you'd have said he's an odious prick, I'd have agreed.

 

Seems like there is ill informed opinions and half truths on both sides of the boarder.

 

 

I have been resisting but, FFS, it is 'border'.

 

Maybe you should read a dictionary before entering into debates with intelligent people.

 

Oh, and it's Salmond. The other one's a fish.

[bolty58]

I'll get it booked, Kent knows a lovely kibbutz near the Forrest of Dean. We can play old grunge bands whilst Bolty sorts out a decent BBQ

 

 

I'm your man. A flamethrower will cook almost anything.

[Not in Crawley]

I have been resisting but, FFS, it is 'border'.

 

Maybe you should read a dictionary before entering into debates with intelligent people.

 

Oh, and it's Salmond. The other one's a fish.

Hardly been a debate this one.

 

As for the majority of English not wanting to break up the Union, you're right there has been no polls conducted, however living in England, even in a Tory heartland, and with a massive Scottish regiment based 2 miles away, I'd say the general feeling is it's all needless and the UK would rather be preserved. What's the feeling on the ground in Summer Bay?

 

As for the spelling, apologies; it's true, I am as numb as a piss stone. You got me. I'm afraid I've never worn a kilt and would never wear one, nothing more cringeworthy than an Englishman wearing a kilt. I look the business in a twinset though.

[scallywell]

ENP anyone?

it's a yes from me

[scallywell]

Hardly been a debate this one.

 

As for the majority of English not wanting to break up the Union, you're right there has been no polls conducted, however living in England, even in a Tory heartland, and with a massive Scottish regiment based 2 miles away, I'd say the general feeling is it's all needless and the UK would rather be preserved. What's the feeling on the ground in Summer Bay?

 

As for the spelling, apologies; it's true, I am as numb as a piss stone. You got me. I'm afraid I've never worn a kilt and would never wear one, nothing more cringeworthy than an Englishman wearing a kilt. I look the business in a twinset though.

where I live nic they say get fucked,and I'd say the majority if english do,try a poll on here

[bolty58]

Hardly been a debate this one.

 

As for the majority of English not wanting to break up the Union, you're right there has been no polls conducted, however living in England, even in a Tory heartland, and with a massive Scottish regiment based 2 miles away, I'd say the general feeling is it's all needless and the UK would rather be preserved. What's the feeling on the ground in Summer Bay?

 

As for the spelling, apologies; it's true, I am as numb as a piss stone. You got me. I'm afraid I've never worn a kilt and would never wear one, nothing more cringeworthy than an Englishman wearing a kilt. I look the business in a twinset though.

 

 

Where is Summer Bay? Not in my neck of the woods comrade. In Little England here in the West however, clearly a case of "I hope they really do fuck off". I do not know one ex-pat Englishman who wants them to stay connected to England. The Manc across my office floor is married to a Glaswegian and was the one who sent me the Youtube vid from Suisse with the words "This is fucking ace".

 

You are confusing me with twinset. I thought you were a onesie type of new age traveller?

[frankietheman]

Just for interest, 2 polls today mentioned on breakfast tv  have the no vote ahead by a narrow margin. Looks like going to the wire this one.

[Not in Crawley]

where I live nic they say get fucked,and I'd say the majority if english do,try a poll on here

Well it's all meaningless conjecture. The only people I hear saying get fucked are the ones who when asked know the littlest about what would happen if the Union shrinks.

[Not in Crawley]

Where is Summer Bay? Not in my neck of the woods comrade. In Little England here in the West however, clearly a case of "I hope they really do fuck off". I do not know one ex-pat Englishman who wants them to stay connected to England. The Manc across my office floor is married to a Glaswegian and was the one who sent me the Youtube vid from Suisse with the words "This is fucking ace".

 

 

You are confusing me with twinset. I thought you were a onesie type of new age traveller?

 

A poll of ex pats who fucked off from this country anyway. Well that's hardly surprising. Again, it's not an issue you should be really troubling your little antipodean head with.