Guest Blixa Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 QPR's owner is apparently trying to sell up. Be interesting to see of they get a buyer sometime soon - and it's just is who can't find a mug with millions. Quote
gonzo Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 QPR's owner is apparently trying to sell up. Be interesting to see of they get a buyer sometime soon - and it's just is who can't find a mug with millions. How did that 5 year plan go? Quote
Casino Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 What happened to their FFP fine ? http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/aug/18/qpr-fine-financial-fair-play-8m make of it what you will Quote
snowball Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 I'm not sure why we are looking for scapegoats anyway Yes, we're in the shit on and off the field but it's hardly a unique situation, were not the only ones who have been in a similar situation if not worse (Pompey, sheff Utd, sheff Wednesday, Charlton, Leeds, Coventry, Wolves, Southampton - the list goes on) - for me it's generally what happens in football with clubs our size Yes it's a fucker and it's a real shame but everyone goes through a shit period at some point With hindsight maybe we should have clipped big sans wings sooner to avoid escalating debts maybe we shouldn't have gone for continuity with little sammy Lee We probably shouldn't have given Megson the money needed to avoid relegation by buying Cahill, Muamba etc after all it sank us further into debt We shouldn't have appointed Coyle or backed him with funds to get us back in the premier league It's all could have, would have, should have - the only thing we should remember is there was no appetite from the stands for us to throw the towell in and accept relegation, we all wanted to see us spend money in an effort to stay in the big time and now we as a club are paying the price Until someone comes in and pumps millions of their own money in we are stuck spending the limited money we bring in. In the meantime all we can do as fans is turn up and give great support like we did last week at PNE So it was all going to happen anyway? Good excuse that for the decision makers. As for all the hindsight stuff this has been argued to death and not going over it again but suffice to say decisions were made by the Chairman that at the time looked wrong. I will keep turning up this season but if our owner is still here next season and as disinterested as now, what's the point? Quote
freds dad Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 So it was all going to happen anyway? Good excuse that for the decision makers. As for all the hindsight stuff this has been argued to death and not going over it again but suffice to say decisions were made by the Chairman that at the time looked wrong. I will keep turning up this season but if our owner is still here next season and as disinterested as now, what's the point? We support BWFC no matter what league we are in, how shite the football is and how skint we are. If you want to watch flowing football with goals and excitement then fuck off to Citeh, Arsenal or some other club you have no connection with. Quote
birch-chorley Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 So it was all going to happen anyway? Good excuse that for the decision makers. As for all the hindsight stuff this has been argued to death and not going over it again but suffice to say decisions were made by the Chairman that at the time looked wrong. I will keep turning up this season but if our owner is still here next season and as disinterested as now, what's the point? I'm not sure the owner is disinterested at all is he? In fact given what's at steak I'd bet he's more interested than the rest of us If you mean because he isn't on sky sports news like Dave Whealan he must be disinterested then I'd have to disagree Also your not going to go unless we have an owner willing to invest money in the club so that we can spend more than we naturally bring in then fair enough, you crack on somewhere else like Man City. Our history's been built over 150 years, most of that time we've had to spend what we bring in, in the last 20 years we've been able to get easy finance to support us further but that's come to an end so we are back to where we have always been. Just not sure that's a good reason to abandon the team you supposedly support Quote
Rembrandt Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 So it was all going to happen anyway? Good excuse that for the decision makers. As for all the hindsight stuff this has been argued to death and not going over it again but suffice to say decisions were made by the Chairman that at the time looked wrong. I will keep turning up this season but if our owner is still here next season and as disinterested as now, what's the point? Maybe we should have been business-like, set an affordable budget & stuck to it. And that's not hindsight. Quote
Cheese Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 I will keep turning up this season but if our owner is still here next season and as disinterested as now, what's the point? Spoken like a true supporter. Quote
snowball Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 I'm not sure the owner is disinterested at all is he? In fact given what's at steak I'd bet he's more interested than the rest of us If you mean because he isn't on sky sports news like Dave Whealan he must be disinterested then I'd have to disagree Also your not going to go unless we have an owner willing to invest money in the club so that we can spend more than we naturally bring in then fair enough, you crack on somewhere else like Man City. Our history's been built over 150 years, most of that time we've had to spend what we bring in, in the last 20 years we've been able to get easy finance to support us further but that's come to an end so we are back to where we have always been. Just not sure that's a good reason to abandon the team you supposedly support Disinterested in putting any more money in as owner, interested in bailing out, that's the extent of his interest now. We need some leadership from the top. Even if we haven't got any money what about Gartside rallying the troops instead of putting out wishy washy responses like the last effort. He's being paid a fortune, aren't we entitled as fans to expect a bit more? Quote
snowball Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 We support BWFC no matter what league we are in, how shite the football is and how skint we are. If you want to watch flowing football with goals and excitement then fuck off to Citeh, Arsenal or some other club you have no connection with. Thanks been a Bolton fan all my life and always will be and I think I had worked out that flowing football, signing Messi, champions League, goals galore, glory hunting etc were not part of the deal. All I want is our owner to make a little bit of money available to sign the fit striker that can save our season. Or see his investment go further down the pan. Quote
Cheese Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 Disinterested in putting any more money in as owner, interested in bailing out, that's the extent of his interest now. We need some leadership from the top. Even if we haven't got any money what about Gartside rallying the troops instead of putting out wishy washy responses like the last effort. He's being paid a fortune, aren't we entitled as fans to expect a bit more? We aren't "entitled" to anything as fans. Quote
snowball Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 We aren't "entitled" to anything as fans. All right then knob cheese. Are we not able to question whether as paying 'customers' the Chairman of the organisation we support (emotionally and financially) is worth the money he is taking out especially at a time of financial crisis for said organisation? Quote
Casino Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 make a little bit of money available to sign the fit striker that can save our season. Or see his investment go further down the pan. lets ignore all the rest of it and just look at this maybe if you read it back to yourself a few times you'll start to see its not as cut n dried as you make out unless of course you think he want the bold bit Quote
Cheese Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 All right then knob cheese. Are we not able to question whether as paying 'customers' the Chairman of the organisation we support (emotionally and financially) is worth the money he is taking out especially at a time of financial crisis for said organisation? Question it all you want snowball. Talk about it non-stop every day if you like. Quote
birch-chorley Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 If your main gripe with the club boils down to the communications department then I understand some of your frustration. There are areas of the business that haven't been great and comms one of them. I don't think that should be a reason to throw the towell in though Im sure if a striker that we can afford is available then he will come in, spending more than we can afford is no longer an option and wanted the club to go into more debt to buy one is reckless Quote
MalcolmW Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 Spelling mistakes are one thing (steak/stake. towell/towel), but using an incorrect word is quite another. Interested - having an interest in something. Uninterested - not having any interest in something. Disinterested - not having a preference about something. Referees are (supposed to be) disinterested, but they can hardly be uninterested. Quote
burndenpaddock Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 Thanks been a Bolton fan all my life and always will be and I think I had worked out that flowing football, signing Messi, champions League, goals galore, glory hunting etc were not part of the deal. All I want is our owner to make a little bit of money available to sign the fit striker that can save our season. Or see his investment go further down the pan. If you had a car that kept breaking down and was costing you a small fortune for each repair, would you continue to throw money at the problem or would you cut your losses and sell/scrap it? Quote
snowball Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 the adjective disinterested can have two meanings. Unbiased or impartial as in your referee analogy or having or feeling no interest in something as my Eddie Davies one. It is far from clear cut to say one word or the another is 'incorrect' in this example. Certainly not as clearly wrong as 'steak' and 'towel'. Stick to your bus time table or whatever it is you are reading in your spare time. You are another one I won't miss. And if the feelings mutual, good. Quote
snowball Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 If you had a car that kept breaking down and was costing you a small fortune for each repair, would you continue to throw money at the problem or would you cut your losses and sell/scrap it? get rid of it as soon as possible which I keep hoping Eddie will do. Until then we are fucked, that's all i was saying. The cars knackered and going nowhere. Quote
DaisyHillyBilly Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 Why are you comparing running a car to a football club? Its like right wing cranks who compare running the country to a household. What a load of shite. Quote
burndenpaddock Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 It's the same principle, albeit on a much smaller scale. People are complaining that Davies isn't investing money in the club. Why would he when he's getting no return? Just like you wouldn't keep spending money on an old banger. He's been throwing money at a problem that can't currently be fixed with the odd signing here and there and has said enough's enough. Anyone with a modicum of sense should understand that. Quote
gonzo Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 Would it not be better to try and tart the car up and give yourself the best chance of getting a decent price for it? Or just set fire to the cunt and claim off the insurance. There's an idea ED Quote
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