Change Of Owner?

[Marc505]

If a man can't see he can't fight.

[Youri McAnespie]

I like the way Stelios is quietly going about his business...

[onlyoneawalker]

summat on twitter the other day, by swiss ramble

 

madness

 

Seemed an apt place to post this ..... published today!

 

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/15223064.Big_Sam__Wanderers_paid_for_lack_of_ambition/

[gonzo]

Seemed an apt place to post this ..... published today!

 

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/15223064.Big_Sam__Wanderers_paid_for_lack_of_ambition/

He could be right but I'm not sure Mark Vaduka and Nicky Butt would've got us in champs league.

[Biggish Dave]

One day that fat bastard will learn to keep his mouth shut. Where was all this money coming from to keep him in ambition? Surely the prick wouldn't have ploughed his 'alleged'ill gotten gains back in to the club to finance it?

 

I respect what he did for the club but as a person he's an arsehole

Edited April 14, 2017 by Biggish Dave

[green genie]

Doesn't your turnover mean you have to submit full accounts at some stage?

 

Our Chairman only submits abbreviated accounts but think £10m is threshold.

[Biggish Dave]

Doesn't your turnover mean you have to submit full accounts at some stage?

Our Chairman only submits abbreviated accounts but think £10m is threshold.

Also depends on balance sheet worth and assets

[Casino]

He could be right but I'm not sure Mark Vaduka and Nicky Butt would've got us in champs league.

 

 

alan smith would

[Whites man]

Surely Our Craig could have got better players for the club than those Leeds rejects?

[RoadRunnerFan]

He's entitled to be cheesed off with what he got to play with in Jan 2007. Particularly when you look at what Megson was given to spend. But this has been done to death on here so many times.

 

It's a bit odd that he's still banging on about it ten years later. Still, its an easier conversation for the reporter to have than one about his England fcuk up.

[onlyoneawalker]

Sure Leicester won league with a team that largely got out championship?

[Casino]

He's entitled to be cheesed off with what he got to play with in Jan 2007. Particularly when you look at what Megson was given to spend. But this has been done to death on here so many times.

 

It's a bit odd that he's still banging on about it ten years later. Still, its an easier conversation for the reporter to have than one about his England fcuk up.

 

 

maybe, but only 3 months before, he had got anelka

 

and dont forget, megson sold anelka to fund a few of his signings

 

how far would fattys toys have flown if he had been told to do that?

[birch-chorley]

summat on twitter the other day, by swiss ramble

 

madness

 

Surprised at Leeds

 

If anything that's too low, where is the money going?

[Casino]

i know football is like few other industries, but the leeds level is fine (ish)

 

all the others are too much

 

dont forget, there are plenty other costs of running the business

[Casino]

they are about a million down on transfers despite a 5 million sale

 

and its a big ground that probably takes some effort to run

 

 

look at our hotel, it adds 7 million to turnover but little profit

Edited April 14, 2017 by Casino

[Zico]

Sure Leicester won league with a team that largely got out championship?

Aye Was thinking the same

 

Leicester did it with a striker they bought from Fleetwood for £1m

 

And their ambition was to stay up

 

Which was the same as ours, which is why he left

 

So the reason why we didn't do a leicester, was because he lost interest and left

 

So what he's saying is

 

"We could've won the premier league or got in the champions league but I couldn't be arsed"

[Whites man]

The Pompey supporters trust bloke said it was possible to have a fan run club competing in leagues 1 and 2 but any higher then you need outside money. The graph above has some absolute car crashes waiting to happen, fail to reach the Premier League or have the owner turn off the tap and it is a pretty black picture.

[Zico]

The Pompey supporters trust bloke said it was possible to have a fan run club competing in leagues 1 and 2 but any higher then you need outside money. The graph above has some absolute car crashes waiting to happen, fail to reach the Premier League or have the owner turn off the tap and it is a pretty black picture.

Forest and derby look to be the biggest gamblers though can't see it ever paying off for Brentford

 

It did for boro, so would they be nearer the bottom like hull and burnley next season with their parachute money?

 

And looks like Brighton will be quids in with the PL money next season

[birch-chorley]

i know football is like few other industries, but the leeds level is fine (ish)

 

all the others are too much

 

dont forget, there are plenty other costs of running the business

At championship level your probably right thinking about it, the lower you go in the pyramid the lower the % of wages to turnover would need to be to stay solvent

 

Get to premier league and your bringing in between £100m and £130m as a minimum. I'd suggest then you could easily spend around 90% on players wages (not inc transfers, assume they are Net zero) and still have more than enough to run the rest of the club

 

Granted you may want to put a bit more away for a rainy day but then you risk not competing / giving yourself the best chance of staying up

 

As long as you have the relevant release clauses in and can cut the wage bill down to match parachute payments it should all work out fine in theory

 

As has been said though, sign the wrong players / managers then start to chase your losses and your in trouble

[Whites man]

As long as you have the relevant release clauses in and can cut the wage bill down to match parachute payments it should all work out fine in theory

 

As has been said though, sign the wrong players / managers then start to chase your losses and your in trouble

Fine in principle but the better players you need to sign or to extend current contracts to better your club won't accept those terms.

 

Regarding transfers your luck will end at some point (unless your Southampton) and your transfer & wage budget will have a huge chunk taken up by lemons never kicking a ball.

[Gonk]

Forest and derby look to be the biggest gamblers though can't see it ever paying off for Brentford

 

It did for boro, so would they be nearer the bottom like hull and burnley next season with their parachute money?

 

And looks like Brighton will be quids in with the PL money next season

 

Derby have got the candy crush guy backing them with all his cash, and still happy to do so. That'll only become an issue if he gets bored

[Sweep]

Derby have got the candy crush guy backing them with all his cash, and still happy to do so. That'll only become an issue if he gets bored

 

is there not some rule that prevents club owners just chucking in as much money as they want to?  - Although I'm sure there are probably ways around it (with regards to sponsorship and naming rights etc)

[frank_spencer]

is there not some rule that prevents club owners just chucking in as much money as they want to? - Although I'm sure there are probably ways around it (with regards to sponsorship and naming rights etc)

Yes there is rules and yes there are ways round it. See Citeh in the Etihad Stadium and Stoke in the Bet365 Stadium with said brands also emblazoned on the shirts.

[Sweep]

Yes there is rules and yes there are ways round it. See Citeh in the Etihad Stadium and Stoke in the Bet365 Stadium with said brands also emblazoned on the shirts.

 

I presumed as much, which therefore makes a mockery of the rule. I don't see why owners aren't just allowed to chuck as much money at the club as they want, if it's their club, then they should be able to spend as much/little as they want

[frank_spencer]

I presumed as much, which therefore makes a mockery of the rule. I don't see why owners aren't just allowed to chuck as much money at the club as they want, if it's their club, then they should be able to spend as much/little as they want

Iirc clubs can lose X amount of their turnover, with owners able to chuck in another %age to cover loses.

But when citeh have Etihad as kit sponsors, play in the Etihad Stadium and the training facilities are based in the Etihad Campus it kind of pisses on the rules.