Just had a meeting on Churchgate. Sad to see the Bolton News offices empty. And in a week or two the Travel Counsellors building opposite will be empty. Another 200+ people spending approx £20 per week on parking and lunches in the town... plus whatever other services they spend their hard-earned on - all being lost. Very sad state of affairs.

 

When will it get better? Should these empty offices be turned into apartments?

3 minutes ago, royal white said:

Surely a good thing then? Brexit benefits!

Good for them yeah. Not good for the catering trade over here and nobody can get any staff. 

 

13 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Good for them yeah. Not good for the catering trade over here and nobody can get any staff. 

 

Down to the employer to pay more. If an employer is going to pay more in Their home country/town then they’re obviously going to go there. 

11 minutes ago, royal white said:

Down to the employer to pay more. If an employer is going to pay more in Their home country/town then they’re obviously going to go there. 

Hi hotel bossman....Pay me more.

Hi Polish man....No, we cant afford to.

 

Ok bye.

Just now, gonzo said:

Hi hotel bossman....Pay me more.

Hi Polish man....No, we cant afford to.

 

Ok bye.

Kind of how business works around the world. Granted blackpool maybe different 

4 minutes ago, royal white said:

Kind of how business works around the world. Granted blackpool maybe different 

Not at all. Like I say good on em for leaving and finding a better life. A lot didnt want to leave, some stayed but brexit blew the whole thing apart.

Shame our people our too bone idle and hooked on the welfare state to fill the jobs they left.

10 hours ago, Johnny1990 said:

We can call Farnworth a shit hole. We can call Johnny fow a shit hole. But don’t you dare call bottom of Deane and daubhill shit holes!!! 

How about we say theyre all shit

4 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Not at all. Like I say good on em for leaving and finding a better life. A lot didnt want to leave, some stayed but brexit blew the whole thing apart.

Shame our people our too bone idle and hooked on the welfare state to fill the jobs they left.

But cash is king. Who would want to live in a country that has had 13 years of shit when they can earn more back home. No brainer ain’t it..

47 minutes ago, royal white said:

But cash is king. Who would want to live in a country that has had 13 years of shit when they can earn more back home. No brainer ain’t it..

The average wage in uk is 3 times Poland, not sure they left for higher wages. 

4 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

The average wage in uk is 3 times Poland, not sure they left for higher wages. 

Average

1 minute ago, gonzo said:

Average

Not sure what your point is but worker here gets on average 3 times more than Poland for same job. 
 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_countries_by_average_wage

10 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Not sure what your point is but worker here gets on average 3 times more than Poland for same job. 
 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_countries_by_average_wage

Not for welders, ask @Spider

20 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Not sure what your point is but worker here gets on average 3 times more than Poland for same job. 
 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_countries_by_average_wage

Did you not do statistics at school?

If 10 people each earn £10,000 and 1 earns £1,000,000, the 'average' wage is £100,000....

Edited September 2, 20232 yr by Cheese

20 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Did you not do statistics at school?

If 10 people each earn £10,000 and 1 earns £1,000,000, the 'average' wage is £100,000....

You do chat some shit. 

Just now, Mounts Kipper said:

You do chat some shit. 

Which bit are you struggling with?

36 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Not sure what your point is but worker here gets on average 3 times more than Poland for same job. 
 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_countries_by_average_wage

What’s the average mortgage in Poland? What about the average weekly Sainsburyski shop? What about an average reach around in the backstreets of Wrocław? You can’t take wages in isolation versus cost of living.

I had 2 kids in nursery and it cost me over £2k a month (after tax). You reckon folks in Warsaw are paying the same?

18 hours ago, gonzo said:

Just hate everyone.

Job done.

I do

10 hours ago, Johnny1990 said:

It’s a good question. I had a good childhood friend who was Asian but not Muslim. Used to support the whites, drink like a fish, usual lad stuff. So maybe it’s religion that I have a problem with. I still stand by the ghetto slums they create. I’ve even spoke in depth about it with Asian Muslim lads. And you know what they didn’t disagree. Some said their families are from shit holes back in Pakistan and it’s all they know. 

YP ???

7 hours ago, Cheese said:

Which bit are you struggling with?

Why you posted what you posted, as it had no relevance to the fact wages in UK are far higher than Poland. 

12 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Why you posted what you posted, as it had no relevance to the fact wages in UK are far higher than Poland. 

'Average' wages...

So why did the Polish workers go back to Poland?

9 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

The average wage in uk is 3 times Poland, not sure they left for higher wages. 

Wages would probably not be higher in Poland, but maybe overall cost of living versus take home wage, made it more favourable for them to return. 

Brexit did have an impact, well never really know by how much though. 

We should have enough of our "own" people to fill most vacancies, it's just they won't. 

Hi Polish tennant bossman... I need to put your rent up.

Hi English landlord man.... I cant afford it.

Ok bye

34 minutes ago, Cheese said:

'Average' wages...

So why did the Polish workers go back to Poland?

 

12 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Wages would probably not be higher in Poland, but maybe overall cost of living versus take home wage, made it more favourable for them to return. 

Brexit did have an impact, well never really know by how much though. 

We should have enough of our "own" people to fill most vacancies, it's just they won't. 

700k poles born in Poland are still resident in UK suggests living standards in general here are better than Poland. 

 

3 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Hi Polish tennant bossman... I need to put your rent up.

Hi English landlord man.... I cant afford it.

Ok bye

Are you suggesting it’s not as simple as the ww solution. How stupid.

 

Indices Difference
Consumer Prices in Poland are 31.7% lower than in United Kingdom (without rent)
Consumer Prices Including Rent in Poland are 34.8% lower than in United Kingdom
Rent Prices in Poland are 41.8% lower than in United Kingdom
Restaurant Prices in Poland are 46.6% lower than in United Kingdom
Groceries Prices in Poland are 30.1% lower than in United Kingdom

53 minutes ago, Spider said:

Indices Difference
Consumer Prices in Poland are 31.7% lower than in United Kingdom (without rent)
Consumer Prices Including Rent in Poland are 34.8% lower than in United Kingdom
Rent Prices in Poland are 41.8% lower than in United Kingdom
Restaurant Prices in Poland are 46.6% lower than in United Kingdom
Groceries Prices in Poland are 30.1% lower than in United Kingdom

To be fair, I think everybody is pretty aware of the above. Although, I appreciate that some may struggle to grasp the whole concept of "cost of living" and assume everything should just be based on how much somebody earns each week

Edited September 3, 20232 yr by Sweep