BobyBrno Posted April 26 Posted April 26 25 minutes ago, Spider said: The irony that he’s done nothing but moan about Labour for the last 6 months 😘 That’s not true. I was moaning about them before the election as well.👍 Quote
London Wanderer Posted April 26 Posted April 26 2 hours ago, royal white said: It is, it’s just (unsurprisingly) you don’t like the source it’s come from. Yes we know all politicians lie, I’ve said it on here numerous times. I’m not sure what’s happening you don’t get? Absolutely. Kent’s post sums it up perfectly They have to adapt & change. Starmer isn’t some sort of serial lier. It’s just odd that all you had to offer was ‘go look at Google’ when it’s nothing but headline sellers with no context Quote
frank_spencer Posted April 26 Posted April 26 2 hours ago, bolty58 said: Maybe some of them are strident lefties pissed off with his recent conservative policies? I know he pissed off millions with the winter fuel allowance shithousery. Not wrong there Bolty, many lefties held their noses and voted Labour to get rid of the shower of shit that was the current Tories. Starmer and the Labour party certainly weren't popular at MPF last weekend. Quote
Not in Crawley Posted April 26 Posted April 26 13 minutes ago, frank_spencer said: Not wrong there Bolty, many lefties held their noses and voted Labour to get rid of the shower of shit that was the current Tories. Starmer and the Labour party certainly weren't popular at MPF last weekend. Good - better to get rid of the fringe. The hard left made us unelectable for too many years. Let them go to Green or other more fringe parties. Give me a one nation Conservative over a militant lefty anyway of the week. Quote
bolty58 Posted April 26 Posted April 26 44 minutes ago, frank_spencer said: Not wrong there Bolty, many lefties held their noses and voted Labour to get rid of the shower of shit that was the current Tories. Starmer and the Labour party certainly weren't popular at MPF last weekend. No surprise mate. Manchester Pigeon Fanciers were always stroppy fuckers. Quote
Spider Posted April 26 Posted April 26 1 hour ago, BobyBrno said: That’s not true. I was moaning about them before the election as well.👍 At least you can vote them out Quote
royal white Posted April 26 Posted April 26 1 hour ago, London Wanderer said: Absolutely. Kent’s post sums it up perfectly They have to adapt & change. Starmer isn’t some sort of serial lier. It’s just odd that all you had to offer was ‘go look at Google’ when it’s nothing but headline sellers with no context “Google Starmer lies and you will PROBABLY find your answers there” As has been pointed out on here previously, you do seem to struggle with reading. I’m not sure what context you need? Starmer has told plenty of lies, this could be a reason why some people have lost faith in him. And rightly so. Quote
London Wanderer Posted April 26 Posted April 26 (edited) 31 minutes ago, royal white said: “Google Starmer lies and you will PROBABLY find your answers there” As has been pointed out on here previously, you do seem to struggle with reading. I’m not sure what context you need? Starmer has told plenty of lies, this could be a reason why some people have lost faith in him. And rightly so. 'You can't read' 😂 Aaaaaand you're off But we didn't find them did we 👍 If you can't understand why context is important then there's not much point discussing whether Kier is a liar or not. Edited April 26 by London Wanderer Quote
Winchester White Posted April 26 Posted April 26 4 hours ago, Bertie said: I suppose it’s inevitable (that politicians lie). Suspect it’s part of their DNA and character types in pursuit of their ultimate goal of power, often at any cost. Frustrating as erodes public trust in all of them. I do think Starmer whilst not perfect is less guilty than most, and on the whole seems committed to public service (accepting we can all agree/disagree with some/all of his policies). Still early days I guess. I was gutted when Boris descended into a pathological liar at the end trying to save his skin - felt he could have done great things for the country. I’m biased of course, but back on topic the orange guy really is different gravy when it comes to blatant lies…. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_or_misleading_statements_by_Donald_Trump I don't want to derail a thread but I cannot let the Boris claim go without saying he didn't descend into a pathological liar, he is/was/always has been. He couldn't run a bath never mind a country. Quote
royal white Posted April 26 Posted April 26 14 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: 'You can't read' 😂 Aaaaaand you're off But we didn't find them did we 👍 If you can't understand why context is important then there's not much point discussing whether Kier is a liar or not. You didn’t no. Others probably have (though they probably didn’t need to ask on a footy forum as to why Keir Starmer has lost a lot of support and is now below Boris in the rankings.) As to “discussing whether Keir* is a liar or not” there’s not as most sane people know he’s a liar. Quote
London Wanderer Posted April 26 Posted April 26 15 minutes ago, royal white said: You didn’t no. Others probably have (though they probably didn’t need to ask on a footy forum as to why Keir Starmer has lost a lot of support and is now below Boris in the rankings.) As to “discussing whether Keir* is a liar or not” there’s not as most sane people know he’s a liar. I've no idea why you think Kent's question is needless. Seems reasonable to me. Starmer's decreasing ratings aren't explained by simply saying he's a liar. That offers no context and ignores many other reasons. Personally, I think he's made u turns and some unpopular decisions that have annoyed folk on the right and left. All you had to offer to a normal question was some laughing emojis. When asked to explain further you just said 'look at google'. Now you're off on one telling folk they're struggling read 😄 classic RW. Back to the point - which lies do you think have most effected Starmer's approval ratings? I've not seen the most recent ones, but there's little here to suggest he's seen much differently to others. https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/boost-keir-starmer-ratings-improve-public-think-his-government-are-doing-poor-job-issues-matter Quote
royal white Posted April 26 Posted April 26 2 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: I've no idea why you think Kent's question is needless. Seems reasonable to me. Starmer's decreasing ratings aren't explained by simply saying he's a liar. That offers no context and ignores many other reasons. Personally, I think he's made u turns and some unpopular decisions that have annoyed folk on the right and left. All you had to offer to a normal question was some laughing emojis. When asked to explain further you just said 'look at google'. Now you're off on one telling folk they're struggling read 😄 classic RW. Back to the point - which lies do you think have most effected Starmer's approval ratings? I've not seen the most recent ones, but there's little here to suggest he's seen much differently to others. https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/boost-keir-starmer-ratings-improve-public-think-his-government-are-doing-poor-job-issues-matter You’ve kind of answered your own question. If you’re making unpopular decisions, u turns, lies what do you think will happen to your popularity? Obviously the tax rises won’t make you very popular, saying you’re going to smash the gangs whilst record numbers cross the channel again won’t help Your cause. Lying constantly in PMQs isn’t going to improve your popularity either. Like I said the lies are PROBABLY a reason, you’re better off asking those Labour supporters who now don’t have any confidence in the person they voted for if you want their reasoning . Quote
Winchester White Posted April 26 Posted April 26 The fact many still think Boris Johnson is the answer probably tells you all you need to know why Starmer isn't popular. Quote
kent_white Posted April 26 Posted April 26 16 minutes ago, Winchester White said: The fact many still think Boris Johnson is the answer probably tells you all you need to know why Starmer isn't popular. I'll take your Boris Johnson and raise you a Nigel Farage Quote
Cheese Posted April 26 Posted April 26 (edited) 20 minutes ago, kent_white said: I'll take your Boris Johnson and raise you a Nigel Farage It is a bit bizarre how all these people who have gone off Starmer because of his "lies" suddenly prefer the biggest liars that have ever operated on the British political stage. Edited April 26 by Cheese Quote
royal white Posted April 26 Posted April 26 3 minutes ago, Cheese said: It is a bit bizarre how all these people who have gone off Starmer because of his "lies" suddenly prefer the biggest liars that have ever operated on the British political stage. Who are these people you talk about? Quote
London Wanderer Posted April 26 Posted April 26 2 hours ago, royal white said: You’ve kind of answered your own question. If you’re making unpopular decisions, u turns, lies what do you think will happen to your popularity? Obviously the tax rises won’t make you very popular, saying you’re going to smash the gangs whilst record numbers cross the channel again won’t help Your cause. Lying constantly in PMQs isn’t going to improve your popularity either. Like I said the lies are PROBABLY a reason, you’re better off asking those Labour supporters who now don’t have any confidence in the person they voted for if you want their reasoning . Yourself & others are confusing unfulfilled promises & unpopular decisions with lying then. A U turn isn’t either, it’s a change of decision. Fairly high expectations you’ve had for his first year in office as well mate. He hasn’t come across as a regular liar. Which ones specifically has he told? Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted April 26 Posted April 26 4 hours ago, royal white said: “Google Starmer lies and you will PROBABLY find your answers there” As has been pointed out on here previously, you do seem to struggle with reading. I’m not sure what context you need? Starmer has told plenty of lies, this could be a reason why some people have lost faith in him. And rightly so. Also harks back the Trump thread, and folk not wanting King Charles to meet Trump, and saying he probably wouldn't want to. Given that Starmer has previously stated he is a republican, maybe Charles didn't want to meet him neither. He previously said it was the law that trans women were women. He said he wouldn't hit farmers. Could go on, but it isn't necessary. They all do, and they will be judged accordingly. Quote
London Wanderer Posted April 26 Posted April 26 2 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Also harks back the Trump thread, and folk not wanting King Charles to meet Trump, and saying he probably wouldn't want to. Given that Starmer has previously stated he is a republican, maybe Charles didn't want to meet him neither. He previously said it was the law that trans women were women. He said he wouldn't hit farmers. Could go on, but it isn't necessary. They all do, and they will be judged accordingly. Will it be Lee Anderson for deputy PM 💜 ? A top honest bloke who only ever speaks the truth, just like Nigel. Quote
London Wanderer Posted April 26 Posted April 26 Similar reasons in here as to why Reform wouldn’t fix things either Quote
royal white Posted April 26 Posted April 26 Just now, London Wanderer said: Will it be Lee Anderson for deputy PM 💜 ? A top honest bloke who only ever speaks the truth, just like Nigel. Whatabout Whatabout whatabout Quote
royal white Posted April 26 Posted April 26 5 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: Similar reasons in here as to why Reform wouldn’t fix things either Speaking of liars this clown would make a cracking politician. Quote
London Wanderer Posted April 26 Posted April 26 (edited) 17 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: Similar reasons in here as to why Reform wouldn’t fix things either An interesting channel. Don’t agree with everything he says, but he makes some decent analysis. Has experience in the sector Edited April 26 by London Wanderer Quote
London Wanderer Posted April 26 Posted April 26 18 minutes ago, royal white said: Whatabout Whatabout whatabout Aye Talking about the leading opposition in a discussion about the current PM 🙈 Nice try Quote
royal white Posted April 26 Posted April 26 6 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: Aye Talking about the leading opposition in a discussion about the current PM 🙈 Nice try Talking about why people don’t like Starmer now, nothing to do with LH. Nice try Quote
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