Donald Dead Cat On Is Head Trump

[bolty58]

5 hours ago, Bertie said:

Oh no they can’t. (Panto season anyone?)

You can think what you want, but apart from a handful of blinkered disciples, his actions and words both domestically and internationally will always ensure the world views Trump as a wannabe tinpot dictator. 

'Handful'

There'll be plenty around the world viewing this method of dealing with mass drug importation and the success on illegal immigration at his southern border as templates for success.

You can think what you want. Not only are you on the side of terrorists but drug cartels too. Bravo.

[Bertie]

3 hours ago, bolty58 said:

'Handful'

There'll be plenty around the world viewing this method of dealing with mass drug importation and the success on illegal immigration at his southern border as templates for success.

You can think what you want. Not only are you on the side of terrorists but drug cartels too. Bravo.

Quality 😂👏.

Just because I disagree with indiscriminately slaughtering civilians and bombing small boats in international waters doesn’t make this true, but you know that.

Rest assured we’re joined at the hip in being anti-terrorist and anti-cartel 💪💪

[Tonge moor green jacket]

10 hours ago, Bertie said:

I’m no Maduro fan, and these boats may have had drugs in, which may have been going to the US, but I’m sorry - no one can just go around bombing and killing like this, without evidence proven in court. If this is “a strong leader delivering”, then any other country could bomb anything anywhere claiming any reason. Global anarchy. No thanks.

Hmm.

That would be my thoughts initially. 

However, I'm sure they won't target these traffickers without knowing that drugs were on board.

Secondly, I would assume that these people are foreign and are effectively destroying lives in America. Maybe this is considered as an attack.

I don't know what the legal situation is, but part of me just thinks "fuck em, they asked for it".

For comparison- the pirates taking hostages and capturing ships in the gulf region, are attacked and destroyed by military and private action too.

No one complains and says they should be stopped, arrested and tried.

[Bertie]

42 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Hmm.

That would be my thoughts initially. 

However, I'm sure they won't target these traffickers without knowing that drugs were on board.

Secondly, I would assume that these people are foreign and are effectively destroying lives in America. Maybe this is considered as an attack.

I don't know what the legal situation is, but part of me just thinks "fuck em, they asked for it".

For comparison- the pirates taking hostages and capturing ships in the gulf region, are attacked and destroyed by military and private action too.

No one complains and says they should be stopped, arrested and tried.

I personally think Somali pirates are a different kettle of fish. Proven threat and it’s pretty clear what the boats are and what the intent is as they approach other vessels.

Venezuelan drug boats? I’m not there yet. Doesn’t help when the current US regime are pathological liars either. Zero trust.

Edited October 15, 2025 by Bertie

[bolty58]

48 minutes ago, Bertie said:

I personally think Somali pirates are a different kettle of fish. Proven threat and it’s pretty clear what the boats are and what the intent is as they approach other vessels.

Venezuelan drug boats? I’m not there yet. Doesn’t help when the current US regime are pathological liars either. Zero trust.

I'm beginning to question your sanity.

You are suggesting that they've blasted an innocent fishing boat out of the water? I am sure their sophisticated surveillance methods would result in an accurate threat assessment.

The drug cartels will be thinking again about distribution methods after these warnings. Especially the boat crews.

"Hey Tuco, take this boat over to South Padre Island for us will you?"

"Fuck off, get some other cunt".

[Bertie]

3 hours ago, bolty58 said:

I'm beginning to question your sanity.

You are suggesting that they've blasted an innocent fishing boat out of the water? I am sure their sophisticated surveillance methods would result in an accurate threat assessment.

The drug cartels will be thinking again about distribution methods after these warnings. Especially the boat crews.

"Hey Tuco, take this boat over to South Padre Island for us will you?"

"Fuck off, get some other cunt".

As I say, you may be right, and if so fair cop, but for now for me the jury is still out:

“Despite their claims, the Trump administration has not provided any evidence to lawmakers to suggest that the boats they have targeted were carrying narcotics, sources told the AP.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-drugs-venezuela-boat-strike-b2845402.html

[bolty58]

1 hour ago, Bertie said:

As I say, you may be right, and if so fair cop, but for now for me the jury is still out:

“Despite their claims, the Trump administration has not provided any evidence to lawmakers to suggest that the boats they have targeted were carrying narcotics, sources told the AP.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-drugs-venezuela-boat-strike-b2845402.html

Doesn't need to IMO. Just keep obliterating them. It will soon stop.

[Duck Egg]

I shouldn't be surprised at some cheering on extra judicial state executions.  Why bother with the expense and hassle of a trial? Trump was accusing Canada previously of letting Fentanyl into the US. Will he be bombing Toronto next? 

Wasn't much of this opiate crisis self inflicted by FEMA giving licence to Oxycontin? Those guys got tax breaks and no jail time.  A bit more generous than a missile dropped on your head. 

[DazBob]

So smuggling drugs into the US is now an offence that carries the death penalty with no right to a trial. Crikey.

[Bertie]

3 minutes ago, DazBob said:

So potentially smuggling drugs into the US is now an offence that carries the death penalty with no right to a trial. Crikey.

You missed a word out…

[Sweep]

8 hours ago, bolty58 said:

I'm beginning to question your sanity.

You are suggesting that they've blasted an innocent fishing boat out of the water? I am sure their sophisticated surveillance methods would result in an accurate threat assessment.

The drug cartels will be thinking again about distribution methods after these warnings. Especially the boat crews.

"Hey Tuco, take this boat over to South Padre Island for us will you?"

"Fuck off, get some other cunt".

I'm not sure the drug cartels offer much of a choice about if you do or don't want to do the run. 

They'll not stop going via that route because of loss of life, it'll only be when loss of money becomes too much. They'll find other ways of getting the gear across in sure, they've always been one step ahead. 

For what it's worth, I'm sure the Intel is decent, and those being blasted out of the water are guilty, so I'm happy enough for it to carry on I suppose. I think will soon know about it if/when an innocent holiday cruiser is accidentally picked off

[London Wanderer]

1 hour ago, DazBob said:

So smuggling drugs into the US is now an offence that carries the death penalty with no right to a trial. Crikey.

There is a side to it where you could say if a country has evidence that these are cartels who are smuggling drugs into their country, then they may have some right to act in self defence. The damage these drugs cause is huge and I can understand the logic to treat it as a war. 

But this is more about Trump going after Maduro specifically, which I've got no problem with, as he's a nasty piece of work.

These boats are a needle in the haystack when it comes to stopping drugs coming into the US though. They'd have to be operating all over South America to make any sort of difference. And that would require support across nations. 

Anybody thinking these boats being blown out the water is a sign of Trump getting stuff done, & is going to make any sort of difference to the US drug epidemic, is way off the mark. The opioid crisis was caused by Big Pharma & will take decades to fix.

His administration would also do well to look at their own smuggling channels and the damage that their gun industry is causing aboard. But they won't

https://ig.ft.com/haiti-gangs/

 

[London Wanderer]

1 hour ago, Sweep said:

I'm not sure the drug cartels offer much of a choice about if you do or don't want to do the run. 

They'll not stop going via that route because of loss of life, it'll only be when loss of money becomes too much. They'll find other ways of getting the gear across in sure, they've always been one step ahead. 

For what it's worth, I'm sure the Intel is decent, and those being blasted out of the water are guilty, so I'm happy enough for it to carry on I suppose. I think will soon know about it if/when an innocent holiday cruiser is accidentally picked off

Is Traf organising cruises out that way? 

[Zico]

2 hours ago, DazBob said:

So smuggling drugs into the US is now an offence that carries the death penalty with no right to a trial. Crikey.

Personally I think that's fair enough when it comes to South American drug cartels, as it's not like they play by the rules 

[royal white]

45 minutes ago, Zico said:

Personally I think that's fair enough when it comes to South American drug cartels, as it's not like they play by the rules 

They’re literally armies 

[Sweep]

16 minutes ago, royal white said:

They’re literally armies 

Aye, the Jalisco New Generation Cartel (JNGC) is the largest in Mexico. They're rumoured to have up to 30,000 active members. They don't fuck about these sort of organisations 

Edited October 15, 2025 by Sweep

[kent_white]

You'll all be crying when you go to Vegas and you can't get any coke! 😁

[bolty58]

8 hours ago, Sweep said:

I'm not sure the drug cartels offer much of a choice about if you do or don't want to do the run. 

They'll not stop going via that route because of loss of life, it'll only be when loss of money becomes too much. They'll find other ways of getting the gear across in sure, they've always been one step ahead. 

For what it's worth, I'm sure the Intel is decent, and those being blasted out of the water are guilty, so I'm happy enough for it to carry on I suppose. I think will soon know about it if/when an innocent holiday cruiser is accidentally picked off

All very reasonable comments. I think you will agree that I was not suggesting that loss of life would be the motivation for finding a different route. The cartels wouldn't bat an eyelid at a few of their soldiers departing.

The money lost? Definitely will be.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

20 hours ago, Bertie said:

As I say, you may be right, and if so fair cop, but for now for me the jury is still out:

“Despite their claims, the Trump administration has not provided any evidence to lawmakers to suggest that the boats they have targeted were carrying narcotics, sources told the AP.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-drugs-venezuela-boat-strike-b2845402.html

Very typical of modern lawfare.

Gets in the way.

Do they think the security forces just target some random boat on a whim?

Maybe there is a large amount of intelligence, and maybe some of that comes from embedded individuals for whom a court case may prove problematic for their future work and wellbeing.

Let's face it, we have a situation here where the government (or human shield spads) are utilising the "law" to avoid upsetting China.

About time we just grew a pair and stood up to them.

[Sweep]

54 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Very typical of modern lawfare.

Gets in the way.

Do they think the security forces just target some random boat on a whim?

Maybe there is a large amount of intelligence, and maybe some of that comes from embedded individuals for whom a court case may prove problematic for their future work and wellbeing.

Let's face it, we have a situation here where the government (or human shield spads) are utilising the "law" to avoid upsetting China.

About time we just grew a pair and stood up to them.

Easier said than done probably, although I suppose it depends what "standing up to them" actually means. Like with the US, we have little or no choice, but to suck up to them. In fact, China would/could cause us far more issues I'm sure. They could make this country grind to a halt within about 2 minutes if they really wanted to

[Spider]

Trumps stock market turbulent again.

Art of the deal.

[bolty58]

On 16/10/2025 at 17:50, Sweep said:

They could make this country grind to a halt within about 2 minutes if they really wanted to

Like Brexit did?

[Bertie]

Meanwhile the pathological liar-in-chief keeps telling more lies. And these are just from one instance on each day. Tip of the iceberg. Getting worse if anything. Good job most sane folks now know this……apart from the nodding sycophants sat next to him. Hard not to worry about his declining mental health. I genuinely don’t think he knows he’s lying any more.

Thursday:

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/10/17/politics/fact-check-trump-drug-prices-wars-shutdown

Friday:

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/10/17/politics/fact-check-trump-president-end-war

[bolty58]

1 hour ago, Bertie said:

Meanwhile the pathological liar-in-chief keeps telling more lies. 

I know and they are talking about the (B)liar having a role in the temporary governance of Gaza.

Astounding eh?

[Sweep]

On 18/10/2025 at 03:35, bolty58 said:

Like Brexit did?

Not at all. What the fuck are you talking about? 

Edited October 19, 2025 by Sweep