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[royal white]

Just now, Winchester White said:

There is only one person with the unilateral power to release all the information on Epstein and that is Trump.

It is also fair to ask why Biden didn't release them and I think that is because a lot of high profile names would be implicated, Clinton is probably one name of many.

But just because someone attended one of his parties or had a meeting with him doesn't mean you knew what he was up to. It would take a good friend to really know that.

Myself and 2 others shared a room with this cunt for 12 months. None of us had a clue. Nor did the dozens of others who shared a room and worked with him for years. I guess it’s not something you brag About to your mates. 
 

https://madebyredrose.co.uk/abuser/robert-wilson/amp

[Cheese]

Just now, Winchester White said:

There is only one person with the unilateral power to release all the information on Epstein and that is Trump.

It is also fair to ask why Biden didn't release them and I think that is because a lot of high profile names would be implicated, Clinton is probably one name of many.

But just because someone attended one of his parties or had a meeting with him doesn't mean you knew what he was up to. It would take a good friend to really know that.

The files were sealed by a Judge during Ghislaine Maxwell's trial. They were unsealed in January 2024, but there were on-going legal processes that prevented their full release. I hope they release the lot, unredacted, and every fucker in them gets what's coming to them, regardless of who they are or what side of the political fence they claim to sit on.

[bolty58]

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

If there is a proper smoking gun, then just release the emails showing it.

These few pages of emails the opposition are releasing show nothing more than an association between Epstein and Trump.

This is what they are hanging their hats on. "Throw enough shit and some might stick". "Guilt by association".

Laughable but we have seen the depths they will sink to.

[Winchester White]

12 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

This is what they are hanging their hats on. "Throw enough shit and some might stick". "Guilt by association".

Laughable but we have seen the depths they will sink to.

I think you will find the MAGA lot are actually the most vociferous in wanting the release of all files unredacted.

JD Vance was particularly loud in insisting their release before he took the VP job.

[DazBob]

37 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

This is what they are hanging their hats on. "Throw enough shit and some might stick". "Guilt by association".

Laughable but we have seen the depths they will sink to.

See, this is where your attitude is weird.

You laugh it all off, call it all bullshit ... As if you know for a fact none of it is true.

... But then say if he is guilty you'll not like him anymore.

[Ani]

1 hour ago, royal white said:

I guess it’s not something you brag About to your mates. 
 

https://madebyredrose.co.uk/abuser/robert-wilson/amp

Which is why I always find it even worse when it is groups or gangs involved, how does it even crop up in conversation ? 

[Ani]

17 hours ago, Zico said:

be interesting that's for sure to watch this one pan out

Mandelson got sacked becuase of "links" to Epstein

Andrew got stripped of everything based on a photo and allegations, which he denied, but are quite clearly true

on Trump all we've got so far is this, but it's not a good start for him 

An email from Epstein to Maxwell in April 2011 alleges Trump "spent hours" with one of the victims, calling the US president the "dog that hasn't barked".

In a January 2019 email to Wolff, Epstein alleged Trump "knew about the girls because he asked Ghislaine to stop".

Mandelson and Andrew got sacked/dismissed/decrowned by the weight of public opinion. Trump still seems to have a lot of support so can tough it out.

He was a billionaire in New York and has made it clear that he shagged about and used his money and privilege to aid this.

As much as I dis like the man I can see very little to kick him out as president here. He knew something was going on and asked them to stop will be seen by some his supporters as ‘doing something about it’ . Whereas most of us would say turning a blind eye and letting them get on with it is aiding and abetting. 

If the full files come out I daresay there will be a lot more high profile names in there. 

[Sweep]

2 hours ago, Ani said:

 

If the full files come out I daresay there will be a lot more high profile names in there. 

which I presume is why they're not being released. There are probably some very high profile/powerful types sweating a bit at the minute 

[DazBob]

19 minutes ago, Sweep said:

which I presume is why they're not being released. There are probably some very high profile/powerful types sweating a bit at the minute 

Not if they don't sweat, like Andrew.

[royal white]

3 hours ago, Ani said:

Which is why I always find it even worse when it is groups or gangs involved, how does it even crop up in conversation ? 

Yep I’ve always said that. Where would you even start that in a topic with the lads? 

[kent_white]

5 hours ago, royal white said:

Myself and 2 others shared a room with this cunt for 12 months. None of us had a clue. Nor did the dozens of others who shared a room and worked with him for years. I guess it’s not something you brag About to your mates. 
 

https://madebyredrose.co.uk/abuser/robert-wilson/amp

Approximately how long would he have lasted. Had you all known do you reckon? 

[Cheese]

12 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Approximately how long would he have lasted. Had you all known do you reckon? 

Trust me, they knew.

[Zico]

6 hours ago, royal white said:

Myself and 2 others shared a room with this cunt for 12 months. None of us had a clue. Nor did the dozens of others who shared a room and worked with him for years. I guess it’s not something you brag About to your mates. 
 

https://madebyredrose.co.uk/abuser/robert-wilson/amp

which is why I wonder why some folk always seem to think plenty in the "muslim community" are aware of what the grooming gangs, or terrorists, are up to, but keep quiet and therefore complicit 

[royal white]

9 minutes ago, Zico said:

which is why I wonder why some folk always seem to think plenty in the "muslim community" are aware of what the grooming gangs, or terrorists, are up to, but keep quiet and therefore complicit 

As discussed above, some of these gangs are 20-30 strong. They’re obvious a bit more open about it than us non muzzie types 

 

30 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Approximately how long would he have lasted. Had you all known do you reckon? 

I’ve seen lads have broom handles shoved up their arse for not having a wash! Let’s say it wouldn’t have ended well, 

[Zico]

1 minute ago, royal white said:

As discussed above, some of these gangs are 20-30 strong. They’re obvious a bit more open about it than us non muzzie types  

but what about the wider community outisde of the gang

women, kids, decent stand up respectable men

they all get tarred with the same community shaped brush, like it's a talking point down the mosque

[royal white]

Just now, Zico said:

but what about the wider community outisde of the gang

women, kids, decent stand up respectable men

they all get tarred with the same community shaped brush, like it's a talking point down the mosque

I don’t think anyone has suggested they all know. But I’d guess many do. Similar to many in our communities know who the local drug dealers are 

[Zico]

25 minutes ago, royal white said:

I don’t think anyone has suggested they all know. But I’d guess many do. Similar to many in our communities know who the local drug dealers are 

In white communities many people know who the drug dealers are 

In Muslim communities many people know who the peados are

A fair summary 

[Sweep]

50 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Trust me, they knew.

Give over

[royal white]

8 minutes ago, Zico said:

In white communities many people know who the drug dealers are 

In Muslim communities many people know who the peados are

A fair summary 

How do they manage to find these gangs that are 20-30 strong if they’re so discreet

[Zico]

38 minutes ago, royal white said:

How do they manage to find these gangs that are 20-30 strong if they’re so discreet

Dunno, they never say in links i read when they get sent down, or I've not noticed

I guess the girls eventually report them, or concerned suspicious members of the public, or someone in the community finds out and reports them

[Cheese]

52 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Give over

Bit of a ridiculous concept isn't it?

[royal white]

22 minutes ago, Zico said:

Dunno, they never say in links i read when they get sent down, or I've not noticed

I guess the girls eventually report them, or concerned suspicious members of the public, or someone in the community finds out and reports them

I mean to join them…..not that I’m wanting to like. See if you want drugs or want to start selling drugs you wouldn’t find it difficult. It  doesn’t appear to be that way if you want to join a grooming gang. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

7 hours ago, bolty58 said:

This is what they are hanging their hats on. "Throw enough shit and some might stick". "Guilt by association".

Laughable but we have seen the depths they will sink to.

Both sides do it though. 

Repeated here, though perhaps more subtly.

[Zico]

6 minutes ago, royal white said:

I mean to join them…..not that I’m wanting to like. See if you want drugs or want to start selling drugs you wouldn’t find it difficult. It  doesn’t appear to be that way if you want to join a grooming gang. 

Get a job in a takeaway and make small talk whilst making kebabs about things you like to do in your spare time

Or

Put an ad up on the mosque notice board

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 hour ago, Zico said:

but what about the wider community outisde of the gang

women, kids, decent stand up respectable men

they all get tarred with the same community shaped brush, like it's a talking point down the mosque

It has been going on for decades, and has been known about for decades.

It is so common, and is endemic in certain cultures. 

Not all Muslim cultures clearly- but within the Pakistani communities in particular. 

In some mosques/educational establishments the indoctrination is common- we have all heard/seen reports about them.

There is plenty of stories/reports out there, with whistle blowers on occasions speaking out. Which takes great courage.

The whole culture is different, and trying to apply our thoughts and attitudes towards them simply doesn't work.