bolty58 Posted November 13, 2025 Posted November 13, 2025 1 hour ago, gonzo said: Tbf I don't think comment gives the clip justice as to what she actually said. Did the BBC splice it? Quote
bolty58 Posted November 13, 2025 Posted November 13, 2025 1 hour ago, Not in Crawley said: He's not that bright. Everyone knows where he's coming from. Dullard. He is a dullard. It's living in Scotland and engaging in hallucinatory practices. Has to be. Quote
MancWanderer Posted November 13, 2025 Posted November 13, 2025 Yawn. Murica. The privileged rich get to run the country. They fuck people…..as well as the electorate. And folk get in a lather like it’s never happened before. And life goes round, and round, and round, and round…… As do the arguments on here Quote
Spider Posted November 14, 2025 Posted November 14, 2025 1 hour ago, royal white said: The Don 😂 Fair play, that’s actually quite funny 😁 Althouhh he has invited a leading Al Qaeda figure into the White House there, but we’re all friends in the end. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted November 14, 2025 Posted November 14, 2025 12 hours ago, Bertie said: As always everyone has retreated to their expected bunker positions on this. No surprises eh! Agreed the smoking gun hasn’t been found/revealed (yet), however as said several times above, why is Trump blocking release of documents which would prove his innocence. Just doesn’t make sense. I also wonder what would happen if the politics were reversed. Would those defending Trump as innocent-until-proven-guilty be quite the same if hypothetically Biden had have been in the spotlight, or Starmer over here. I doubt it. There have been plenty of suggestions about various things Biden did. I'm not sure there have ever been the same level of international intrusion and media abuse of power over it. The BBC have now been found to have done this twice. A Swedish media company, and an Australian one appear to have done the same. Editing speeches to give a completely false impression. This isn't about retreating to a bunker- I've no time for Trump as a person- it is about our public broadcaster fundamentally breaking its own rules; shattering its raison d'etre. This will have far reaching implications for its future. It may not get the opportunity ever to return to what it once was. Fwiw, there have been plenty of comments about our own PM: I'm yet to see any broadcaster fabricating videos in this way to "get him". Nor for that matter the PMs before him. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted November 14, 2025 Posted November 14, 2025 35 minutes ago, Spider said: Fair play, that’s actually quite funny 😁 Althouhh he has invited a leading Al Qaeda figure into the White House there, but we’re all friends in the end. Bit like Gerry Adams meeting Blair and Cameron. Quote
Spider Posted November 14, 2025 Posted November 14, 2025 37 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Bit like Gerry Adams meeting Blair and Cameron. Aye Large swathes of trumps cult were claiming just last week that a Muslim mayor in New York was basically letting Al qaeda win, it’s a funny old country Quote
Zico Posted November 14, 2025 Posted November 14, 2025 12 hours ago, bolty58 said: Every post from you seems to be of a defensive nature relating to consistent/persistent offenders. Have you been under a rock for the last twenty years or just don't want to acknowledge a couple of glaringly obvious serial problems? Sure you can pick out the odd 'whitey' similar crime here and there. They can burn on the same (very large) pyre as far as I am concerned. I just don't think it's helpful to continually tag the religion or race to the crime, as it just breeds contempt for the religion or race as a whole, most of whom find the crimes as abhorent as you and me you end up with folk thinking muslims are here to rape our women and kids then you end up with batshit solutions like "shut down mosques" or "ban religion", non of which would ever solve the problem or stop the crime Quote
Ani Posted November 14, 2025 Posted November 14, 2025 3 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Bit like Gerry Adams meeting Blair and Cameron. Or someone attending a fund raiser for Sinn Fein , although someone attending an event to raise money for a terrorist organisation is slightly different than politicians meeting after the ceasefire or earlier to discuss how to end the troubles. So to be clear Trump attended a fund raiser for the IRA, apparently did not contribute on the night. So he would rather be known as a free loader than a terrorist sympathiser. Personally if invited to a fund raiser for terrorists I would say no. Just avoids any confusion. Quote
Zico Posted November 14, 2025 Posted November 14, 2025 34 minutes ago, Ani said: Or someone attending a fund raiser for Sinn Fein , although someone attending an event to raise money for a terrorist organisation is slightly different than politicians meeting after the ceasefire or earlier to discuss how to end the troubles. So to be clear Trump attended a fund raiser for the IRA, apparently did not contribute on the night. So he would rather be known as a free loader than a terrorist sympathiser. Personally if invited to a fund raiser for terrorists I would say no. Just avoids any confusion. at that event, GA made a speech where the remarked that Sinn Fein can now play their "Trump Card" which would be an odd thing to say if he didn't donate any cash not longer after they bombed Manchester Quote
Dimron Posted November 14, 2025 Posted November 14, 2025 4 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: There have been plenty of suggestions about various things Biden did. I'm not sure there have ever been the same level of international intrusion and media abuse of power over it. The BBC have now been found to have done this twice. A Swedish media company, and an Australian one appear to have done the same. Editing speeches to give a completely false impression. This isn't about retreating to a bunker- I've no time for Trump as a person- it is about our public broadcaster fundamentally breaking its own rules; shattering its raison d'etre. This will have far reaching implications for its future. It may not get the opportunity ever to return to what it once was. Fwiw, there have been plenty of comments about our own PM: I'm yet to see any broadcaster fabricating videos in this way to "get him". Nor for that matter the PMs before him. Just a thought... In addition to the apology why doesn't the BBC just phone Trump and offer to make a "without prejudice" compensation payment into their Children in Need appeal. Both parties get some credit and it can all be put to bed. Quote
Popular Post Cheese Posted November 14, 2025 Popular Post Posted November 14, 2025 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Dimron said: Just a thought... In addition to the apology why doesn't the BBC just phone Trump and offer to make a "without prejudice" compensation payment into their Children in Need appeal. Both parties get some credit and it can all be put to bed. Because the BBC is a publically funded service that shouldn't be using our money to placate the tantrums of an entitled foreign fuckwit. The edit in question didn't affect him or his campaign in the slightest. It was broadcast over a year ago, and the edit was so subtle and in-keeping with the general gist of his speech that nobody even noticed until someone leaked an internal report to the Telegraph. They didn't put words in his mouth, or change the essence of the speech - which has been viewed billions of times since he delivered it in 2021. They just failed to make it absolutely clear that one sentence wasn't spoken immediately after another. The entire thing is utter woke nonsense. Edited November 14, 2025 by Cheese Quote
Cheese Posted November 14, 2025 Posted November 14, 2025 If anything, more pertinent today than it was then. Quote
Dimron Posted November 14, 2025 Posted November 14, 2025 1 hour ago, Cheese said: Because the BBC is a publically funded service that shouldn't be using our money to placate the tantrums of an entitled foreign fuckwit. The edit in question didn't affect him or his campaign in the slightest. It was broadcast over a year ago, and the edit was so subtle and in-keeping with the general gist of his speech that nobody even noticed until someone leaked an internal report to the Telegraph. They didn't put words in his mouth, or change the essence of the speech - which has been viewed billions of times since he delivered it in 2021. They just failed to make it absolutely clear that one sentence wasn't spoken immediately after another. The entire thing is utter woke nonsense. I totally agree with your comments but sometimes we have to find a "middle ground" where all parties save face, in my experience the best resolution is where both sides feel "robbed" even if it does involve a colonial dictator. It is just a tiny window of opportunity for a settlement to put everything to bead but unlikely, maybe the production company should be made to pay? The internal leak most probably came from Robbie Gibb. Quote
Cheese Posted November 14, 2025 Posted November 14, 2025 2 minutes ago, Dimron said: I totally agree with your comments but sometimes we have to find a "middle ground" where all parties save face, in my experience the best resolution is where both sides feel "robbed" even if it does involve a colonial dictator. It is just a tiny window of opportunity for a settlement to put everything to bead but unlikely, maybe the production company should be made to pay? The internal leak most probably came from Robbie Gibb. The BBC have no face to save. Someone made a tiny editorial error that was brought to light a year after broadcast by someone with a political agenda. It's nonsense. Quote
London Wanderer Posted November 14, 2025 Posted November 14, 2025 4 minutes ago, royal white said: Has he been arrested yet? Who’s claiming he should ? Is Prince Andrew locked up ? An irrelevant tangent. Meanwhile he’s ramping up the pressure not to release the files … https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/14/republican-pressure-trump-epstein-files Why do you think he doesn’t want them released? Anyways. He tells the occasional funny joke, so it’s all good ey 😄 Quote
boltonboris Posted November 14, 2025 Posted November 14, 2025 I don’t think it was an accident. I think it was a deliberate act by the BBC to create a story, make him look bad or whatever their agenda was. It will carry international reputational damage in my opinion and brings their ‘neutrality’ into question. All rather embarrassing and we know how much a big baby Donald is. He won’t let this lie and it could even (possibly) have an economic impact on trade with the U.K., he’s that fragile. Quote
royal white Posted November 14, 2025 Posted November 14, 2025 14 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: Who’s claiming he should ? Is Prince Andrew locked up ? An irrelevant tangent. Meanwhile he’s ramping up the pressure not to release the files … https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/14/republican-pressure-trump-epstein-files Why do you think he doesn’t want them released? Anyways. He tells the occasional funny joke, so it’s all good ey 😄 No one, I’m asking, It’s a usual course of action for people who have been raping/abusing kids. Quote
DazBob Posted November 14, 2025 Posted November 14, 2025 25 minutes ago, royal white said: Has he been arrested yet? DYOFR Quote
royal white Posted November 14, 2025 Posted November 14, 2025 Just now, DazBob said: DYOFR Why you shouting in Welsh? Quote
Dimron Posted November 14, 2025 Posted November 14, 2025 18 minutes ago, Cheese said: The BBC have no face to save. Someone made a tiny editorial error that was brought to light a year after broadcast by someone with a political agenda. It's nonsense. I suppose Idi Amin... sorry, President Trump... could ban the BBC from his press briefings which would be detrimental to the BBC global coverage. Do you recall how Lee Cain attempted a similar ban on the Mirror, Independent, and others during King Johnson's reign? It was one out, all out as all the journos left the room in suport of their colleagues and Cain and Cummings had to rescind. That would be very unlikely if it happened in the US. Quote
Winchester White Posted November 14, 2025 Posted November 14, 2025 Just now, Dimron said: I suppose Idi Amin... sorry, President Trump... could ban the BBC from his press briefings which would be detrimental to the BBC global coverage. Do you recall how Lee Cain attempted a similar ban on the Mirror, Independent, and others during King Johnson's reign? It was one out, all out as all the journos left the room in suport of their colleagues and Cain and Cummings had to rescind. That would be very unlikely if it happened in the US. Trump has already done that with White House briefings so not to get asked awkward questions. Quote
frank_spencer Posted November 14, 2025 Posted November 14, 2025 12 minutes ago, Winchester White said: Trump has already done that with White House briefings so not to get asked awkward questions. Pentagon also brought in restrictions on reporters only reporting vetted news stories so all the press walked out. Quote
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