is that it now game over no chance of POTUS

 

Rayguns out

7 hours ago, athywhite1958 said:

I see it a lot on here about Trump  being a so called paedo, is there actually any substantive evidence that he has committed offences against young people?

Genuine question

Hard to believe he’s innocent if he and his cronies are going to so much trouble  to stop the Epstein files being released, (and even flip flop that they actually exist in the first place).

Epstein was a convicted pedophile and trafficker, about whom Trump said this:

“I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy,” Trump told New York magazine in 2002. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”

I think the truth is pretty clear.

8 hours ago, bolty58 said:

I have over three years of smiling at the tortured squirming and venting of the 'anti's' to enjoy. That is all.

Squirming and venting…..about the damage he’s doing to livelihoods, economies, health, welfare, environment, world stability? Isn’t deriving joy from this a definition of sadism? Deary me 🙄.

I think most folk agree with Kent, that this guy is a disgrace to humanity.

What a hill to die on, defending that scumbag. I think there will be a handful of embarrassed folk on here when the truth eventually comes out. It always does.

11 minutes ago, Bertie said:

Hard to believe he’s innocent if he and his cronies are going to so much trouble  to stop the Epstein files being released, (and even flip flop that they actually exist in the first place).

Epstein was a convicted pedophile and trafficker, about whom Trump said this:

“I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy,” Trump told New York magazine in 2002. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”

I think the truth is pretty clear.

This woman's vote needed to release the Epstein files. Just tweeted that she's going to be sworn in. 

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1 minute ago, jayjayoghani said:

This woman's vote needed to release the Epstein files. Just tweeted that she's going to be sworn in. 

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Brilliant news if so. Disgraceful, anti-democratic stalling tactics by Mike Johnson & the House republicans.

It was never proven that Prince Andrew is a nonce

 

41 minutes ago, Bertie said:

Hard to believe he’s innocent if he and his cronies are going to so much trouble  to stop the Epstein files being released, (and even flip flop that they actually exist in the first place).

Epstein was a convicted pedophile and trafficker, about whom Trump said this:

“I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy,” Trump told New York magazine in 2002. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”

I think the truth is pretty clear.

Didn’t know about that quote 

grim 

& folk on here praise him

47 minutes ago, Bertie said:

Squirming and venting…..about the damage he’s doing to livelihoods, economies, health, welfare, environment, world stability?

No, about the way he fucks with the heads of you and others. Schadenfreude is the term I believe.

45 minutes ago, Bertie said:

Disgraceful, anti-democratic stalling tactics by Mike Johnson & the House republicans.

The fucking brass neck. After what the Democrats did? You have to be fucking joking.

Trump is doing himself absolutely no favours with this.

Approval ratings typically fall a few months post election, and all this simply adds to it.

We know that forces on the "other side" acted against him at times, but he doesn't half give them ammo.

The really have to rise above it, and not be sucked in. I don't think he will though.

Live by the sword and all that.

8 hours ago, frank_spencer said:

There's plenty of ropey behaviour out there whether it crosses into outright noncery will be hotly debated. He bought a teenage pageant company and was apparently known to wander round the dressing rooms. Was a close friend of Epstein. He's been found civilly guilty of sexual assault if not criminally it's certainly not a good look.

After all his wanging on about releasing the Epstein files in the build up to the election his change of heart has only increased the scrutiny.

His best hope is the Michael Jackson defence of at best being a fucking weirdo.

I agree. Plenty of very odd and ropey behaviour. But we've known that for 30 years. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he'd dabbled in this type of behaviour in the past. I just haven't seen or heard any evidence of it. Other than whispers and hearsay. So until I do - he'll continue to remain in the narcissistic arsehole category rather narcissistic paedo category that he would otherwise immediately be transferred to. 

Either way - I'm not letting him babysit my kids. 

2 hours ago, Bertie said:

Hard to believe he’s innocent if he and his cronies are going to so much trouble  to stop the Epstein files being released, (and even flip flop that they actually exist in the first place).

Epstein was a convicted pedophile and trafficker, about whom Trump said this:

“I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy,” Trump told New York magazine in 2002. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”

I think the truth is pretty clear.

So there isn't any substantive concrete evidence?

I can not stand Trump and think he is a total cunt.

But…

If you think being a nonce is as serious a crime as it is throwing around unproven accusations and constantly repeating them puts you in same category as people who attack paediatricians. It is gutter level activity.

24 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said:

So there isn't any substantive concrete evidence?

Yet...

I'm sure there's a perfectly innocent reason he promised to release the Epstein files when he was running for President last year, but has done everything in his power to prevent their release since becoming President....

26 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said:

So there isn't any substantive concrete evidence?

Correct….atm. So you’re fully entitled to presume innocence. However, if you look at the guy’s character, and friends he keeps, then it’s not unreasonable to have the opinion of likely guilt, whether balance of probability or beyond reasonable doubt.

If only there were some files or something the President could release, to clear this up once and for all…..

Can any of Trump's fanboys give a valid reason why Trump doesn't want the Epstein files releasing?

'Ey up. One of the assassination beseechers has popped up.

Just now, bolty58 said:

'Ey up. One of the assassination beseechers has popped up.

Humour us though. Why do you think Trump doesn’t want to release those files?

Just now, Bertie said:

Humour us though. Why do you think Trump doesn’t want to release those files?

Needs them for the bars on his cell?

Prince Andrew is called a nonce all the time and he’s never been convicted.

Consistency is key

1 hour ago, athywhite1958 said:

So there isn't any substantive concrete evidence?

there wasn't any for Andrew formerly known as Prince or Jimmy Saville either

but

you know

54 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Yet...

I'm sure there's a perfectly innocent reason he promised to release the Epstein files when he was running for President last year, but has done everything in his power to prevent their release since becoming President....

Again - that's not evidence - it's just presumption. 

You might be right - and if you are I'd expect that the next occupants of the white house will expose it (if it does indeed implicate him) if it's the Dems. 

Although it does beg the question why the Biden administration didn't order for the release of the files - if they knew that DT featured in there heavily. Or there was evidence of wrongdoing. 

Surely that would have tipped the balance back to Biden/Harris significantly. 

My guess is his name comes up in the files - but not to the extent that there's any evidence of wrongdoing. 

And he could put all of this to bed by ordering the release of the files of course. 

11 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Again - that's not evidence - it's just presumption. 

You might be right - and if you are I'd expect that the next occupants of the white house will expose it (if it does indeed implicate him) if it's the Dems. 

Although it does beg the question why the Biden administration didn't order for the release of the files - if they knew that DT featured in there heavily. Or there was evidence of wrongdoing. 

Surely that would have tipped the balance back to Biden/Harris significantly. 

My guess is his name comes up in the files - but not to the extent that there's any evidence of wrongdoing. 

And he could put all of this to bed by ordering the release of the files of course. 

There's probably all manner of "important" people listed in those files, who don't want them seeing the light of day, even if Trump wanted to release them (which I'm not sure he does) those who pull his strings may prevent it.

1 hour ago, Cheese said:

Yet...

I'm sure there's a perfectly innocent reason he promised to release the Epstein files when he was running for President last year, but has done everything in his power to prevent their release since becoming President....

Have you reported your thoughts to the FBI?

If you haven't you are basically condoning child sex exploitation.

No wonder folk get away with it.

1 hour ago, Cheese said:

Yet...

I'm sure there's a perfectly innocent reason he promised to release the Epstein files when he was running for President last year, but has done everything in his power to prevent their release since becoming President....

 

1 hour ago, Bertie said:

Correct….atm. So you’re fully entitled to presume innocence. However, if you look at the guy’s character, and friends he keeps, then it’s not unreasonable to have the opinion of likely guilt, whether balance of probability or beyond reasonable doubt.

If only there were some files or something the President could release, to clear this up once and for all…..

So, no

2 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Have you reported your thoughts to the FBI?

If you haven't you are basically condoning child sex exploitation.

No wonder folk get away with it.

Why would I "report my thoughts to the FBI"? What "thoughts" are these? No wonder you get fooled by Far Right propaganda on a daily basis.