is that it now game over no chance of POTUS

 

Rayguns out

1 hour ago, royal white said:

The Don will be reet. Nowt to worry about, as someone has already mentioned if there was anything the Dems would have released the files when they were in power. 

Then why is he/his administration trying to block the release?

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3 hours ago, kent_white said:

I hate to say this. But I'm still not seeing anything particularly damning. Or anything that might stand up in court. It's embarrassing, absolutely. But then we're talking about a narcissist with no shame. It's going to take more than this to convince me he's been shagging kids. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and all that. This doesn't seem all that extraordinary to me. 

Really ??

Nobody is suggesting this is prosecution territory.

But a US leader involved in a sex trafficking ring. Those emails show he knew what was going on, yet carried on. 

We don't know if the victims were under 18 at the time - but he knew they were groomed.

I don't think it will be damning for him, which is nothing but a depressing insight into where we're at as a society.

Worrying times 

He says it’s all a hoax.

He’s posted twice in the last couple of hours claiming it.

He sounds desperate, but the cunt has 900 lives so it’ll end up beading off him like water off wax.

at least we know his supporters are only uncomfortable with pedos when it suits them. Ugly.

27 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Really ??

Nobody is suggesting this is prosecution territory.

But a US leader involved in a sex trafficking ring. Those emails show he knew what was going on, yet carried on. 

We don't know if the victims were under 18 at the time - but he knew they were groomed.

I don't think it will be damning for him, which is nothing but a depressing insight into where we're at as a society.

Worrying times 

Yeah - I'm not sure it proves anything really. And you could interpret those emails in lots of different ways. It doesn't actually suggest anything does it? Other than he's had a closer relationship with Epstein than he has let on. 

Maybe I need to reread them? 

Leave it with me! 😁

I've reread them. At the most they suggest that Trump may have been aware of concerning behaviour at some level. But ultimately they're allegations from someone with credibility issues in private correspondence. Nothing to suggest he participated in anything or did anything illegal.

And I'm sure I read that Virgina Giuffre is on record as saying Trump was never involved and was always very pleasant to her (although obviously there will be other girls who might not say the same thing). 

I just don't think that this is the smoking gun it's being made out to be. 

I do though - think that on balance of probability, Trump has had his mucky fingers where they shouldn't be at some point in the past. I've just not seen any proof. 

4 minutes ago, kent_white said:

I've reread them. At the most they suggest that Trump may have been aware of concerning behaviour at some level. But ultimately they're allegations from someone with credibility issues in private correspondence. Nothing to suggest he participated in anything or did anything illegal.

And I'm sure I read that Virgina Giuffre is on record as saying Trump was never involved and was always very pleasant to her (although obviously there will be other girls who might not say the same thing). 

I just don't think that this is the smoking gun it's being made out to be. 

I do though - think that on balance of probability, Trump has had his mucky fingers where they shouldn't be at some point in the past. I've just not seen any proof. 

I suspect there's a lot more to come out yet. Why else would The White House be holding emergency meetings to try to convince a few Republicans to remove their signatures from the petition to release the Epstein files?

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

I suspect there's a lot more to come out yet. Why else would The White House be holding emergency meetings to try to convince a few Republicans to remove their signatures from the petition to release the Epstein files?

Important government business.

 

He’s working awfully hard to keep documents a secret that would prove he’s innocent.

Strange bloke 

16 minutes ago, kent_white said:

I've reread them. At the most they suggest that Trump may have been aware of concerning behaviour at some level. But ultimately they're allegations from someone with credibility issues in private correspondence. Nothing to suggest he participated in anything or did anything illegal.

And I'm sure I read that Virgina Giuffre is on record as saying Trump was never involved and was always very pleasant to her (although obviously there will be other girls who might not say the same thing). 

I just don't think that this is the smoking gun it's being made out to be. 

I do though - think that on balance of probability, Trump has had his mucky fingers where they shouldn't be at some point in the past. I've just not seen any proof. 

I get what your saying

But you just need to look at the nature of their relationship and the things that have been said 

It all points towards something very sinister 

The only difference between trump and Andrew is we had someone specifically making allegations, which were never actually proven, against Andrew 

Andrew paid out 

When other allegations and what not have been made against trump, he's had to pay out 

There's no smoke without fire 

And where trump is concerned there are multiple instances of smoke, and one out two of fire 

And remember 

There was no proof of Saville 

Or Jackson 

Just lots of stories and smoke 

And pay outs

Some posters will have you believe innocent men make payouts just to avoid the hassle of proving their innocence in court 

JD Vance is quiet

Release the files fella. Show us all you're just a lovely gentleman. 

4 hours ago, kent_white said:

I'm sure he would 😁

I see the 'shitting in the mouth' exponent has lost none of his perverse verbosity.

Biden hasn't been able to get it up since Watergate and I have halls not rooms.

2 hours ago, Bertie said:

Where’s all the Trumpettes tonight? 🤫 

I'm here.

Don't get overly excited by a Democrat witch hunt. We've seen too many over the last few years.

When there's indisputable proof of what some on here like to allege it will be the time that I will be on your side.

Until that point, I will continue to despise the judiciary weaponisers and their guttersnipe attempts to try to get any traction whatsoever.

4 hours ago, Winchester White said:

Along with a couple of others.

He (and you) are a bit daft. Consistently said that if it is proven that the man is a paedo, I would happily escort him to the gallows.

I know you are both fairly limited but that is a very basic premise to comprehend.

1 hour ago, kent_white said:

I honestly don't think his base will care. Not unless something comes out which shows he's actually been noncing kids. And even then there will be a decent number of them saying it's a hoax. It's been a cult of personality for years now. 

I'm not sure any of the world leaders would be brave enough to do that. Other than your Iran/North Korea types. 

I'm almost always wrong about these things though - so he'll probably be out the door by Sunday! 🤣

Exactly. You show levels of understanding that are alien to some of the lunkheads on here.

46 minutes ago, Cheese said:

I suspect there's a lot more to come out yet. Why else would The White House be holding emergency meetings to try to convince a few Republicans to remove their signatures from the petition to release the Epstein files?

That's as many be. And I hope they are released. 

And I strongly suspect there may be further incriminating evidence about him if they are. 

But right here right now. I just don't think there's enough to go on. 

I can understand how some poeple might read it differently though. 

44 minutes ago, Zico said:

I get what your saying

But you just need to look at the nature of their relationship and the things that have been said 

It all points towards something very sinister 

The only difference between trump and Andrew is we had someone specifically making allegations, which were never actually proven, against Andrew 

Andrew paid out 

When other allegations and what not have been made against trump, he's had to pay out 

There's no smoke without fire 

And where trump is concerned there are multiple instances of smoke, and one out two of fire 

And remember 

There was no proof of Saville 

Or Jackson 

Just lots of stories and smoke 

And pay outs

Some posters will have you believe innocent men make payouts just to avoid the hassle of proving their innocence in court 

Yeah, well articulated mate. I totally get where you're coming from. 

25 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

I see the 'shitting in the mouth' exponent has lost none of his perverse verbosity.

Biden hasn't been able to get it up since Watergate and I have halls not rooms.

😁😁

28 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

I'm here.

Don't get overly excited by a Democrat witch hunt. We've seen too many over the last few years.

When there's indisputable proof of what some on here like to allege it will be the time that I will be on your side.

Until that point, I will continue to despise the judiciary weaponisers and their guttersnipe attempts to try to get any traction whatsoever.

Knew it.

14 minutes ago, frank_spencer said:

Knew it.

 

20k pages of files have been released so far. Surely he will be getting arrested soon. 
 

Or then again. 

If there is a proper smoking gun, then just release the emails showing it.

These few pages of emails the opposition are releasing show nothing more than an association between Epstein and Trump.

Even the fact that Trump spent time with VG, doesn't mean anything- particularly given she claimed that Trump was courteous etc and nothing untoward happened.

This drip feed of "almost but not quite" information will of course embolden his opponents, but it will also embolden his supporters, and ultimately, achieve nothing.

If they want to get him, then show he was actually involved in criminality.

Get him banged to rights. 

Even if he didn't actually fuck any kids, does anyone actually think that he didn't know what Epstein was up to??

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

If there is a proper smoking gun, then just release the emails showing it.

These few pages of emails the opposition are releasing show nothing more than an association between Epstein and Trump.

Even the fact that Trump spent time with VG, doesn't mean anything- particularly given she claimed that Trump was courteous etc and nothing untoward happened.

This drip feed of "almost but not quite" information will of course embolden his opponents, but it will also embolden his supporters, and ultimately, achieve nothing.

If they want to get him, then show he was actually involved in criminality.

Get him banged to rights. 

There is only one person with the unilateral power to release all the information on Epstein and that is Trump.

It is also fair to ask why Biden didn't release them and I think that is because a lot of high profile names would be implicated, Clinton is probably one name of many.

But just because someone attended one of his parties or had a meeting with him doesn't mean you knew what he was up to. It would take a good friend to really know that.

Just now, Winchester White said:

There is only one person with the unilateral power to release all the information on Epstein and that is Trump.

It is also fair to ask why Biden didn't release them and I think that is because a lot of high profile names would be implicated, Clinton is probably one name of many.

But just because someone attended one of his parties or had a meeting with him doesn't mean you knew what he was up to. It would take a good friend to really know that.

Myself and 2 others shared a room with this cunt for 12 months. None of us had a clue. Nor did the dozens of others who shared a room and worked with him for years. I guess it’s not something you brag About to your mates. 
 

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