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[Blondi]

Not if we go into admin

 

We sack him now

 

Then go into admin, it'll cost us fuck all

Who's going to pot Lennon at this moment in time? It won't be Eddie and I can only think TB would be in a position to do so, but he's got more pressing matters with HMRC on Monday.

[Eavesy]

if we can't win when we play well again then it's time to give up

[Sweep]

Sacking a manager now is the least of our worries. We're down already, might as well stick with the clueless Lennon until the end of the season, when it'll be cheaper to pot him.

Why will it be cheaper to pot him? - he's on a rolling 12 month contract, so we'll have to pay him a year's salary no matter when we get rid

[Eavesy]

First 30 minutes we battered but couldn't score. Same

Story. Not enough quality to punish teams.

Plenty of effort and will. Couldn't fault em really. But no goals

[Blondi]

Why will it be cheaper to pot him? - he's on a rolling 12 month contract, so we'll have to pay him a year's salary no matter when we get rid

Yeah I know he's on a rolling contract, but according to Nixon & Iles, If we go down, his compo will be significantly lower due to relegation. (presume there must be some clause in his rolling contract)

[Sweep]

Yeah I know he's on a rolling contract, but according to Nixon & Iles, If we go down, his compo will be significantly lower due to relegation. (presume there must be some clause in his rolling contract)

Sorry, didn't know that.

[kent_white]

So if I'm now understanding this right. A rolling contract is only ever a good deal for the club if a) you intend to keep your manager forever or you expect that a bigger club will eventually come in for them and you'll be due compo?

 

Naively I thought it just meant at the end of each season we had the option to sign him on for another year.

[jules_darby]

Normally, you would only ever pay up until the end of the contract; not another 12 months

 

Not sure that's right lads

[Blondi]

Normally, you would only ever pay up until the end of the contract; not another 12 months

 

Not sure that's right lads

I was always under the impression that Lennon would be due just 12 months compensation, regardless of when he gets potted. It is certainly a better option than say getting rid of a manager after say 18 months of a 4 year contract. I stand to be corrected of course.

[leebwfc]

surely rolling doesn't mean he has always got 12 months left that we would have to pay up? well I suppose given the other contracts that we have thrown about its probably true

[onlyoneawalker]

It was a 3 year rolling contract whatever the fuck that is

[DomRepWanderer]

Not just a matter of sacking him, it's his goons as well, they'll want a few bob too I assume.

[Casino]

Didn't go in the end, turned radio off at HT. The blame lies squarely on ED shoulder great legacy fella, set the club back to the 80s please fuck off and don't come back. Gutted by our demise and the wreckless abandon demonstrated by the owner of our club.

We've got a wage bill towards the top end of the league

 

Yet were bottom of the league

 

That's not the fault of Davies

[BOWTUN BAKED]

We've got a wage bill towards the top end of the league

 

Yet were bottom of the league

 

That's not the fault of Davies

Say whose fault it is, stop sitting on the fence.

 

It's still Davies that's culpable though for not reigning it in, either through naievety, stupidity or incompetence.

[Casino]

And when Coyle the Cnut relegated us it was the 12th biggest in the premier and top 30 in the world

 

Funded by Eddie Davies

 

That's not Eddies fault either

 

If there's acing in all this look no fcuking further than Owen Coyle

 

And no, I don't deny we could've acted differently following relegation but we tried to get back up

 

As I wanted

 

Fcuk knows about you but I'll happily admit I was happy to chuck someone else's money at it

[Casino]

Say whose fault it is, stop sitting on the fence.

 

It's still Davies that's culpable though for not reigning it in, either through naievety, stupidity or incompetence.

Re relegation, definitely Lennon

 

Re the financial Fcuk up, that's goes back to Coyle

 

gartside and Davies aren't blameless but relegation was when it all started to unravel

 

The club can't pay wages that some in this league can

 

Any house of cards is calling

[Casino]

surely rolling doesn't mean he has always got 12 months left that we would have to pay up?

Of course it does

 

And if Lennon had been successful you would have moaned it didn't give us enough protection

 

Perhaps we should have made him sign something more in our favour

[mickbrown]

Re relegation, definitely Lennon

 

Re the financial Fcuk up, that's goes back to Coyle

 

gartside and Davies aren't blameless but relegation was when it all started to unravel

 

The club can't pay wages that some in this league can

 

Any house of cards is calling

 

Bollox

[Spider]

Bollox

Casino makes a very good point.

 

The seal was given a war chest that was probably bigger than the one given to Allardyce.

 

He fucked it up - and yes, ED should have reigned him in but possibly trusted him too much having listened to his fellow supporters and their clamour to give the fuckwit the job (me included).

 

After that fuck up, the writing was on the wall as I suspect ED had rolled the dice for the last time in terms of an open cheque book.

 

For the millionth time, and probably not the last, I will point out the ED is culpable but only partially to blame.

[mickbrown]

Coyle's job was to keep us in the division - he didn't. 

 

There's always a chance that would happen. Davies and Gartside's job was to plan for that very real possibility. They fucked that up entirely. 

[victor meldrew]

casino , stop trying to defend/ blame certain people. the club has been fucked up by davis and gartside. end ov

 

shit managerial appointments, shit signings,stupid contracts.

 

come monday night we might not have a club to support.

[Spider]

Coyle's job was to keep us in the division - he didn't.

 

There's always a chance that would happen. Davies and Gartside's job was to plan for that very real possibility. They fucked that up entirely.

This plan that people often mention.

 

What should it have been?

[Mounts Kipper]

We've got a wage bill towards the top end of the league

 

Yet were bottom of the league

 

That's not the fault of Davies

Your completely blinded by the fact we had some great seasons under Eddie, it wasn't him who gave them to us as much as it sticks in the craw it was SA. Eddie had 3 key decisions to make that would have changed everything he got all 3 wrong, 1. Should have backed SA. 2. Should have inserted contract reductions on relegation

And 3. Should have purchased a golscorer this season to keep us up. The blame lies with our benefactor Edwin Davies.

Edited March 5, 2016 by Mounts Kipper

[mickbrown]

This plan that people often mention.

 

What should it have been?

 

Contracts with relegation clauses. Like we used to have.

 

And that has absolutely fuck all to do with Coyle, inept or otherwise.

[Spider]

Your completely blinded by the fact we had some great seasons under Eddie, it wasn't him who gave them to us as much as it sticks in the craw it was SA. Eddie had 3 key decisions to make that would have changed everything he got all 3 wrong, 1. Should have backed SA. 2. Should have inserted contract reductions on relegation

And 3. Should have purchased a golscorer this season to keep us up.

He backed SA by paying Okocha £80k a week, plus bonuses, plus a house, plus getting him off 3 speeding fines, paying his money into offshore accounts at great risk to the club.

 

Allardyce got plenty.