madthatter Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Hiddink is a good shout for a foreign coach. Makes no odds to me if the manager is English or not. I think fat Sam would do a very good job. Never get chosen as long as there's a hole in my arse though. Howe also a good shout if a tad inexperienced. FA will no doubt pick Southgate. Yes man but does have under 21 experience and has done a good job there. Continuity and all that, I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 No idea who it'll be but when the supposedly best player and captain keeps punting the ball into the stands Alex Fergusson, Brian Clough and Alf Ramsey combined couldn't get England to be any cop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adlington Trotter Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 (edited) Iceland's manager is a part time dentist.I'm pretty sure it's the assistant whose the dentist, Lagerback is a respected international manager that England have struggled against a few times. Actually, he might not be a bad shout. Allardyce must be considered by the FA though. Southgate strikes me as the Jeremy Corbyn of football management, clearly knows his stuff, but not a leader. Edited June 28, 2016 by Adlington Trotter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madthatter Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 No idea who it'll be but when the supposedly best player and captain keeps punting the ball into the stands Alex Fergusson, Brian Clough and Alf Ramsey combined couldn't get England to be any cop. True, but I think that a lack of a clear strategy and planned adaptations to potential situations also played their part in last night's debacle. You can't really excuse Premier League winners passing it repeatedly behind players for 90 mins, or hitting every cross, shot etc straight out of play or into a defender - that's their lack of character (and possibly symptoms of their egos and pampered lifestyles?) coming through. That said, with a better game plan we perhaps don't get into the position that caused the meltdown. Bit of both I suppose. Would Fergy or Clough have tolerated even 5 minutes of that? I just don't see any of Fergie's players ever performing like that for him (not for long anyway). Look at how the Italian manager went ape shit and booted that ball when one mon mis-controlled it . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted June 28, 2016 Author Site Supporter Share Posted June 28, 2016 Greg Dyke didn't help matters with his comments mid tournament and Woy's retort of being happy to do the job but not needing to suggests all was not well in the camp. Given his pre- written resignation and decision not to face the press today suggests he was a bit pissed off. Seemingly he doesn't want to burn his bridges, but maybe its time for some honesty from all concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Iceland's manager is a part time dentist. We certainly need someone to get their teeth into the task in hand pretty quick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted June 28, 2016 Author Site Supporter Share Posted June 28, 2016 We certainly need someone to get their teeth into the task in hand pretty quick. Get the impression this won't happen, hope we don't end up with someone filling in. A lot of areas need brushing up or we might end up getting pasted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madthatter Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Greg Dyke didn't help matters with his comments mid tournament and Woy's retort of being happy to do the job but not needing to suggests all was not well in the camp. Given his pre- written resignation and decision not to face the press today suggests he was a bit pissed off. Seemingly he doesn't want to burn his bridges, but maybe its time for some honesty from all concerned. Agreed, very odd from Greg that - did no help whatsoever and put him under more pressure and got the press on his back. Don't get our mentality or approach to things at times. Very strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famouswanderer Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Greg Dyke didn't help matters with his comments mid tournament and Woy's retort of being happy to do the job but not needing to suggests all was not well in the camp. Given his pre- written resignation and decision not to face the press today suggests he was a bit pissed off. Seemingly he doesn't want to burn his bridges, but maybe its time for some honesty from all concerned. Typical of the man he is, a complete and utter bottle job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e2e4 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 (edited) Megson with Freedman as his assistant If you'd offered this up between the russia game and the next game, i'dve been all in. [well, really i said Allardyce] . but you could just tell the iceland defeat were coming. Allardyce probably doesn't look good sat at a desk for england so they'll probably get sven back. very office manager. Edited June 28, 2016 by e2e4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madthatter Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 I'll say this for Hodgson, he at least tried to implement a new 'style' and looked to blood youth. Minimum requirements I know but others haven't done this in the past. It just seemed like he wanted to go a certain way but then didn't seem to factor in what the opposition would do and then didn't have a plan B . . . sound familiar?! Football seems to go through cycles i.e. Spain/Barca have success with tika taka so everyone tries to play tiki taka style football or play in a way that counters this. Most top teams at this tournament seem to play counter attacking, a la Germany, so we see lots of teams parking the bus to counter this The successful teams/managers seem to work out how to beat this or develop a style to suit their players and stifle the oppositions threats e.g. the Icelandic wall . . .'Hoooooo'! Roy, bless him, seems to have not even factored this into his plans and preparation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famouswanderer Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 I'll say this for Hodgson, he at least tried to implement a new 'style' and looked to blood youth. Minimum requirements I know but others haven't done this in the past. I don't buy this. Who the hell wouldnt of picked the likes of Kane, Alli, Dier etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deane koontz Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Rio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madthatter Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 I don't buy this. Who the hell wouldnt of picked the likes of Kane, Alli, Dier etc Not meaning just in the tournament. I agree though, there weren't many alternatives really, but over his tenure he has certainly given more youth a chance than previous managers, imo. Problem is he didn't seem to know how to get the best out of them and for me it's a balance between youth and experience that usually wins the day. And when it could have mattered he bottled throwing Rashford on. Perhaps to protect him? I don't know, I really don't know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madthatter Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36648824 Old melty face makes some good points, the whore! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgoefc Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 If its Southgate I predict we will fail to qualify for 2018. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 If it's redknapp I predict the FA will be bankrupt by 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madthatter Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 If its Hoddle I predict a riot in the disabled section Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didledee Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Gary Megson I'd like someone like Bilic, was impressed with his West Ham team and liked how he spoke as a pundit for ITV,, won't happen though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted June 28, 2016 Moderators Share Posted June 28, 2016 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36648824 Old melty face makes some good points, the whore! Fuckin ell He rightly questions what has Southgate done as a manager and why he should get it against a proven manager Then he goes and suggests Tim sherwood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madthatter Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Fuckin ell He rightly questions what has Southgate done as a manager and why he should get it against a proven manager Then he goes and suggests Tim sherwood Yeah that wasn't one of the good points I was referring to . . . honest!!! More the pro Big Sam and Southgate points. (not Steve 'Sloth' face Bruce either) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted June 28, 2016 Moderators Share Posted June 28, 2016 The media would have a field day with allardyce Has he sued panorama yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e2e4 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 The media would have a field day with allardyce Get Fabrice Muamba in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted June 29, 2016 Members Share Posted June 29, 2016 The media would have a field day with allardyce Has he sued panorama yet? Being fair - which England manager do they not have a field day with? Swedes 2 Turnips 0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 The media would have a field day with allardyce Has he sued panorama yet? They would but I think he's the sort of brass necked fecker who just ignore it. In Sam's world he is the dog's bollocks. Maybe England might need a bit of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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