July 7, 20251 yr Somehow missed Shardlake. Done 3 of the 4 and pretty good. Shame diversity and inclusion bollocks has to depict a multicultural 1500's England mind. Before the r word warriors are on the march, it would be equally as disappointing if a 1950's/1960's series in the south of England did not reflect the cultural mix at that time. Accuracy or, as Thomas Cromwell would say, precision. Not too much to ask. Edited July 8, 20251 yr by bolty58
July 8, 20251 yr 10 hours ago, bolty58 said: Somehow missed Shardlake. Done 3 of the 4 and pretty good. Shame diversity and inclusion bollocks has to depict a multicultural 1500's England mind. Before the r word warriors are on the march, it would be equally as disappointing if a series in the south of England did not reflect the cultural mix at that time. Accuracy or, as Thomas Cromwell would say, precision. Not too much to ask. This may help you understand what happens in telly land https://youtu.be/iNEURfC9eEk?si=VHAfNY8yJ2yKQzQP
July 8, 20251 yr 11 hours ago, bolty58 said: Somehow missed Shardlake. Done 3 of the 4 and pretty good. Shame diversity and inclusion bollocks has to depict a multicultural 1500's England mind. Before the r word warriors are on the march, it would be equally as disappointing if a series in the south of England did not reflect the cultural mix at that time. Accuracy or, as Thomas Cromwell would say, precision. Not too much to ask. https://www.spelthorne.gov.uk/article/19678/A-timeline-of-black-history-in-Britain
July 8, 20251 yr to be fair he had simialr issues with the remake of Worzel Gummidge "Not sure Barbara Euphan Todd would have envisaged her story being told this way."
July 8, 20251 yr 3 hours ago, Zico said: to be fair he had simialr issues with the remake of Worzel Gummidge "Not sure Barbara Euphan Todd would have envisaged her story being told this way." To be fair, asking only for accuracy. Like your spelling of Isreal, Israle, Israel. You and the two stumps know full well that this is purely inclusion and diversity nonsense. Surprised they haven't invoked the usual 'r' word attack though. You were all going to get some more of my great love of Sir Coxsone The Downbeat, King Stitt, Marvin Gaye and many more. Fuck all to do with skin colour - just accuracy. No surprise that you in particular wouldn't want to focus on that.
July 8, 20251 yr He's right y'know. When making a TV programme based around a talking scarecrow its important to make sure its 100% accurate to the original source material. Nothing every should be updated, nothing should ever be changed, no apatation, no change, everything needs to be preserved in aspic.
July 8, 20251 yr 17 hours ago, bolty58 said: Somehow missed Shardlake. Done 3 of the 4 and pretty good. Shame diversity and inclusion bollocks has to depict a multicultural 1500's England mind. Before the r word warriors are on the march, it would be equally as disappointing if a 1950's/1960's series in the south of England did not reflect the cultural mix at that time. Accuracy or, as Thomas Cromwell would say, precision. Not too much to ask. I'm with you on this. If it's supposed to be historically accurate, show it as it was. Owt else is taking the piss.
July 8, 20251 yr Think people need to read up a bit about Tudor England. Its also a fictional account, of which the author was behind.
July 8, 20251 yr 4 hours ago, bolty58 said: To be fair, asking only for accuracy. Like your spelling of Isreal, Israle, Israel. You and the two stumps know full well that this is purely inclusion and diversity nonsense. Surprised they haven't invoked the usual 'r' word attack though. You were all going to get some more of my great love of Sir Coxsone The Downbeat, King Stitt, Marvin Gaye and many more. Fuck all to do with skin colour - just accuracy. No surprise that you in particular wouldn't want to focus on that.
July 8, 20251 yr Darren Grimes moaning about a black bloke playing Othello is a classic of this genre.
July 8, 20251 yr 8 minutes ago, mickbrown said: Darren Grimes moaning about a black bloke playing Othello is a classic of this genre. What a prize cunt he is
July 8, 20251 yr 15 minutes ago, Casino said: What a prize cunt he is Indeed he is. Refers to himself as a ‘politician’ now he’s a local councillor.
July 8, 20251 yr 2 hours ago, Not in Crawley said: Think people need to read up a bit about Tudor England. Its also a fictional account, of which the author was behind. around 200 from a population of 4,000,000? if you want historical drama to more closely represent modern cultural diversity than historical accuracy, that's fine. if you prefer historical accuracy, that's also fine. but they are 2 different things.
July 8, 20251 yr 2 hours ago, mickbrown said: Darren Grimes moaning about a black bloke playing Othello is a classic of this genre. Half of othello pieces are black.
July 8, 20251 yr 41 minutes ago, wakey said: around 200 from a population of 4,000,000? if you want historical drama to more closely represent modern cultural diversity than historical accuracy, that's fine. if you prefer historical accuracy, that's also fine. but they are 2 different things. They are two different things. So its an historical drama - drama being the key word. Its not a documentary.
July 8, 20251 yr 4 hours ago, Zico said: I knew exactly the response I would get. Your irritation Is real
July 8, 20251 yr 1 hour ago, wakey said: around 200 from a population of 4,000,000? if you want historical drama to more closely represent modern cultural diversity than historical accuracy, that's fine. if you prefer historical accuracy, that's also fine. but they are 2 different things. Precisely. I prefer the latter.
July 9, 20251 yr On 01/07/2025 at 12:00, Cheese said: The latest (2-parter) episode of 24 Hours in Police Custody 'The Butcher of Suburbia' is worth watching... Just watched it, what a cold fish he was. Mind you, they're all a bit strange round the Letchworth area. I half expect one of these shows to feature someone off here some day.
July 9, 20251 yr Shawshank Redemption, generally regarded by all as the greatest movie of all time, has the Red character played by the very black Morgan Freeman. in the book, he was a white ginger Irish bloke. Please can we all write a letter of complaint
July 9, 20251 yr 9 hours ago, Not in Crawley said: They are two different things. So its an historical drama - drama being the key word. Its not a documentary. historical dramas must waste a shit loads on costumes and sets if they're not interested in historical accuracy.
July 9, 20251 yr It baffles me that anyone gives a flying fuck about this sort of stuff. There's only one reason I can think of...
July 9, 20251 yr 4 hours ago, wakey said: historical dramas must waste a shit loads on costumes and sets if they're not interested in historical accuracy. think you're getting confused with historical documentarys the clue is in the word drama it's called artistic license
July 9, 20251 yr 5 hours ago, Cheese said: It baffles me that anyone gives a flying fuck about this sort of stuff. There's only one reason I can think of... aaaand the usual retort. You really couldn't be further off the mark.
July 9, 20251 yr 1 hour ago, Zico said: think you're getting confused with historical documentarys the clue is in the word drama it's called artistic license and again, no confusion. In every other respect they'll strive for authenticity. If you're recreating a historical scene with 100 people, mostly extras, that would at the time have had 100 white faces, why throw in a smattering of non-white faces. Genuine question. Seems patronising to me.
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