Politics

[DirtySanchez]

26 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

So what? 

Politically, he's arguably been the most influential chap in recent times. His ukip party forced a referendum.

Do you believe we'd have had one of he hadn't created such a stir?

The only current/former leaders in parliament that have ever won an election are in the conservative party- that alone won't guarantee them victory!

Let's judge farage on what farage has achieved 

Everytime he appears on telly he squirms if you dare ask him a question that doesn't suit his narrative 

What have UKIP achieved since? The grand some of cock all 

[DirtySanchez]

19 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Google’s your friend, no need to keep asking me questions for no apparent reason. 

They are apparent you just choose not to answer them 

[DirtySanchez]

52 minutes ago, Moon boy said:

What would you do?

Get on with life 

[Escobarp]

4 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said:

Get on with life 

Surely you must see the irony in that comment? Is that what these cretins outside Westminster chanting are doing? Politicians like jo swinson Ian blackford etc are doing? The people’s vote marches?

Not saying in anyway you’re doing any of this for the record. 

[miamiwhite]

11 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said:

Let's judge farage on what farage has achieved 

Everytime he appears on telly he squirms if you dare ask him a question that doesn't suit his narrative 

What have UKIP achieved since? The grand some of cock all 

Out of interest fella, who do you usually vote for ?

Just asking as you seem a font of all knowledge.............in your eyes and opinion.

[miamiwhite]

Just now, Escobarp said:

Surely you must see the irony in that comment? Is that what these cretins outside Westminster chanting are doing? Politicians like jo swinson Ian blackford etc are doing? The people’s vote marches?

Not saying in anyway you’re doing any of this for the record. 

Cigar moment mate, well said.

[Salford Trotter]

1 hour ago, darwen_white said:

How dare Cameron give the public a say about where their money is going. 😯 

What's your view on the likely loss of c5% GDP should we leave on Johnson's deal? So you don't have to work it out that is approx £115b in lost revenue for GB PLC next year and every year should it be only 5%. If the economy contracts further in future years then that will be on top of that £115b

[Salford Trotter]

3 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Out of interest fella, who do you usually vote for ?

Just asking as you seem a font of all knowledge.............in your eyes and opinion.

Are you conducting a poll for Yougov? 😂 

[miamiwhite]

Just now, Salford Trotter said:

Are you conducting a poll for Yougov? 😂 

Thank god someone has the intel to suss my motive

But, you never answered did you ? Like Bolty says, you’re a closet TBP voter aren’t you ?

Since Antifa tried it on in your “city” I can’t fault you fella.......

[Tonge moor green jacket]

18 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said:

Let's judge farage on what farage has achieved 

Everytime he appears on telly he squirms if you dare ask him a question that doesn't suit his narrative 

What have UKIP achieved since? The grand some of cock all 

They achieved what they set out to though didn't they?

Became largely irrelevant, Nigel left and they've become a minority group managed by nobbers.

Not sure what you're getting at there.

Since, we've seen TBP arrive from nowhere, again because we've lot left.

Hugely influential already in the euro elections. Could do real "damage" if folk feel disenfranchised.

[miamiwhite]

7 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said:

What's your view on the likely loss of c5% GDP should we leave on Johnson's deal? So you don't have to work it out that is approx £115b in lost revenue for GB PLC next year and every year should it be only 5%. If the economy contracts further in future years then that will be on top of that £115b

Likely....not proven.

 

Give it a break please pal and turn your Max Bygraves records over......

[DirtySanchez]

4 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

They achieved what they set out to though didn't they?

Became largely irrelevant, Nigel left and they've become a minority group managed by nobbers.

Not sure what you're getting at there.

Since, we've seen TBP arrive from nowhere, again because we've lot left.

Hugely influential already in the euro elections. Could do real "damage" if folk feel disenfranchised.

How many elections has farage stood in?

How many has he won?

[Escobarp]

Just been sent this. Shall just leave it for those amongst us who seem to like these snippets

Says it all  and Boris is accused of being the untrustworthy one. And folk believe this man?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/09/the-50-times-jeremy-corbyn-has-called-for-a-general-election-this-year/amp/

[mickbrown]

10 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Just been sent this. Shall just leave it for those amongst us who seem to like these snippets

Says it all  and Boris is accused of being the untrustworthy one. And folk believe this man?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/09/the-50-times-jeremy-corbyn-has-called-for-a-general-election-this-year/amp/

Why would he go for an election if it benefits the Tories?

Makes no fucking sense at all. 

[Escobarp]

1 minute ago, mickbrown said:

Why would he go for an election if it benefits the Tories?

Makes no fucking sense at all. 

Why demand an immediate one 16 times and then refuse one? 

I can see your point by the way. But you must admit he looks a complete fanny by now running away?

[DirtySanchez]

19 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Out of interest fella, who do you usually vote for ?

Just asking as you seem a font of all knowledge.............in your eyes and opinion.

I'm apolitical. The missus is staunch lib dems. She goes on marches. I let her get on with her stuff and not bothered by it

I'm not a font of all knowledge in the same way you're not 

Opions of course 

[Salford Trotter]

17 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Likely....not proven.

 

Give it a break please pal and turn your Max Bygraves records over......

Very likely with lots of jobs gone to boot

I'm on my Val Doonican collection now 😋

Edited October 25, 2019 by Salford Trotter

[mickbrown]

8 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Why demand an immediate one 16 times and then refuse one? 

I can see your point by the way. But you must admit he looks a complete fanny by now running away?

Discretion may be the better part of valour and all that.

Similarly, why refuse 16 and now demand one?

Politics mates. It's all a game

[Escobarp]

1 minute ago, mickbrown said:

Discretion may be the better part of valour and all that.

Similarly, why refuse 16 and now demand one?

Politics mates. It's all a game

I agree it’s all a big game and firmly at our expense. 

And without wanting to appear smart was different PM’s the 16 calls were against 😊. But I agree. 

But for people on the Corbyn bandwagon to now try and defend him for not taking an election now it’s offered it was always going to come back with the stats etc  as it was these people screaming about the tories refusing one as it didn’t suit them 

 

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

17 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said:

How many elections has farage stood in?

How many has he won?

Sorry, I don't get the point you're making. We've explained it may not be relevant.

You don't have to agree with it, but keeping posting the same comment doesn't change the validity of the point we've made.

Many folk thought that remain would win the referendum and it bit them in the arse.

Anyone making that same mistake again and ignoring farage's threat could come a cropper.

I don't want him winning seats either, but it could happen.

[mickbrown]

8 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

I agree it’s all a big game and firmly at our expense. 

And without wanting to appear smart was different PM’s the 16 calls were against 😊. But I agree. 

But for people on the Corbyn bandwagon to now try and defend him for not taking an election now it’s offered it was always going to come back with the stats etc  as it was these people screaming about the tories refusing one as it didn’t suit them 

 

 

Folk might not like him, but he ain't stupid.

Would be political suicide for him to agree to one right now.

The further we go past the 31st of October, the more a bellend Boris looks. This brings the Brexit Party into play eating away at Boris's lead in the polls.

 

[Sweep]

6 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Folk might not like him, but he ain't stupid.

Would be political suicide for him to agree to one right now.

The further we go past the 31st of October, the more a bellend Boris looks. This brings the Brexit Party into play eating away at Boris's lead in the polls.

 

Bang on with that I reckon

[Tonge moor green jacket]

4 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Folk might not like him, but he ain't stupid.

Would be political suicide for him to agree to one right now.

The further we go past the 31st of October, the more a bellend Boris looks. This brings the Brexit Party into play eating away at Boris's lead in the polls.

 

This is true. It also diminishes labours support, to either leave party.

It doesn't say much for his character if he isn't prepared to try to deliver something positive for his party.

Surely in that scenario, he'd be better off resigning and giving someone else, more appealing a go to try to reunite MPs and voters.

[Escobarp]

4 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Folk might not like him, but he ain't stupid.

Would be political suicide for him to agree to one right now.

The further we go past the 31st of October, the more a bellend Boris looks. This brings the Brexit Party into play eating away at Boris's lead in the polls.

 

I disagree re Boris but again it’s all down to personal opinion. 

I think he wins an election and gets a majority. I’ve said it consistently and nothing I’ve seen or heard changes that. 

Worse thing is I think we are pushing towards no deal and as long as Boris confirms that to Farage then I think we are all in big trouble. This whole thing is going to backfire on us and those who have blocked this. 

I also said it at the time may was doing a very difficult job. That was our best deal. Wonder how many of the democracy deniers and Tory rebels would now reverse their objection to her deal?? 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Just now, Escobarp said:

I disagree re Boris but again it’s all down to personal opinion. 

I think he wins an election and gets a majority. I’ve said it consistently and nothing I’ve seen or heard changes that. 

Worse thing is I think we are pushing towards no deal and as long as Boris confirms that to Farage then I think we are all in big trouble. This whole thing is going to backfire on us and those who have blocked this. 

I also said it at the time may was doing a very difficult job. That was our best deal. Wonder how many of the democracy deniers and Tory rebels would now reverse their objection to her deal?? 

They had their chance. She didn't help herself to an extent, but the usual suspects just merely confirming that they'll vote for nothing. And risk getting the thing they want least. Fucknuggets.