Guest Posted October 25, 2019 Posted October 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Winchester White said: Corbyn is an utter clown who is putting Momentum before country. Likewise for Boris on his side. This whole Brexit bollocks had disaster written all over it pre referendum and has proven so. Cameron has a lot to answer for the shiny faced plum. Ted Heath John Major Tony blair are the real culprits Quote
DirtySanchez Posted October 25, 2019 Posted October 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Again not sure what your point is, it does not mean he can’t win a seat in future. And we all know that winning seats when not one of the 2 major parties is difficult. You said its vital that Farage wins a number of seats. So far not going well You said he speaks for a lot of the electorate. Despite not winning any seats Quote
Duck Egg Posted October 25, 2019 Posted October 25, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Most polls show little has changed in public opinion since the vote in 2016, and it would all depend on how the questions were framed. In my opinion any second referendum on leave /remain would be so divisive for the country that it would be a disaster. I think Remain would win a 2nd time around. I know plenty who voted leave who would now vote remain. I don't know anyone who would do the opposite (ie voted remain but now want to leave) Significantly though I think the turnout for any 2nd referendum would be way down on the first one. Until the first vote is acted on democracy will be pretty creaky in the UK Edited October 25, 2019 by Duck Egg Quote
DirtySanchez Posted October 25, 2019 Posted October 25, 2019 15 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Again not sure what your point is, it does not mean he can’t win a seat in future. And we all know that winning seats when not one of the 2 major parties is difficult. How many seats do the lib dems have? Quote
Winchester White Posted October 25, 2019 Posted October 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Ted Heath John Major Tony blair are the real culprits I see your point. However, if I recall right (I might be wrong as I was a pup and going off dads witterings) Major won an election with the manifesto pledge for the EU (Maastricht I think?) Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted October 25, 2019 Posted October 25, 2019 8 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: How many seats do the lib dems have? Why do you keep asking me random questions and that you know the answers to. You’re bizarre. Quote
DirtySanchez Posted October 25, 2019 Posted October 25, 2019 16 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Why do you keep asking me random questions and that you know the answers to. You’re bizarre. Why can't you answer them? Quote
darwen_white Posted October 25, 2019 Posted October 25, 2019 49 minutes ago, Winchester White said: Corbyn is an utter clown who is putting Momentum before country. Likewise for Boris on his side. This whole Brexit bollocks had disaster written all over it pre referendum and has proven so. Cameron has a lot to answer for the shiny faced plum. How dare Cameron give the public a say about where their money is going. 😯 Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 25, 2019 Posted October 25, 2019 10 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: Why can't you answer them? As mounts said, it could well be different if another election comes soon, especially if leave hasn't happened. Recent election results have shown little resemblance to previous ones. Not sure if Farage would stand either, as he is an MEP. One thing is for sure, the EU certainly want rid of his lot from their parliament. Having to possibly deal with yet more political influence from him won't sit well with them. Quote
DirtySanchez Posted October 25, 2019 Posted October 25, 2019 Aye but let's look at Farage's record That's all we can judge him on Doesn't look good Quote
Moon boy Posted October 25, 2019 Posted October 25, 2019 3 hours ago, Sweep said: To be fair, Moon Boy said we were definitely leaving at the end of March, as it was law and couldn't be stopped......he then was ecstatic that Johnson got the gig, as he said that definitely meant we would leave at the end of October, and again, no way it could be stopped.....well that doesn't look like it's going to happen now. I await his next "We're definitely leaving on XX date, and no way can it be stopped or pushed back" as well as an update on his "Good Ship Brexit" saga, which looks like it might have hit some choppy waters 😀 I will feed your obsession with my opinions, At the moment I am so pissed off with duplicitous dishonest MP’s of all Parties, the biased BBC and other so called impartial News platforms, the corrupt EU, the Judiciary, people who voted in a Referendum who won’t accept the result of said Referendum who now want another ‘legally binding ‘ Referendum who pay lip service to the word Democracy that I feel if I am not allowed the chance to cast my one vote very soon in a GE I would be open, despite my advancing years, to a more physical demonstration of my anger and frustration. As a Democrat I believe the ‘silent majority’ will triumph at the next GE, as it did in 2016 then we’ll see what happens next, I’d like to state now I will be accepting the outcome of the GE, hung Parliament or not. I would just like the opportunity to cast my vote, soon Quote
Escobarp Posted October 25, 2019 Posted October 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Duck Egg said: I think Remain would win a 2nd time around. I know plenty who voted leave who would now vote remain. I don't know anyone who would do the opposite (ie voted remain but now want to leave) Significantly though I think the turnout for any 2nd referendum would be way down on the first one. Until the first vote is acted on democracy will be pretty creaky in the UK Correct. Won’t make a jot of difference to anyone but me personally I will never vote again in any capacity if this isn’t delivered.pointless we will have proven despite all the ramblings to the contrary with are not a democratic nation. Quote
miamiwhite Posted October 25, 2019 Author Posted October 25, 2019 7 hours ago, bwfcfan5 said: You don't need to wonder - its fairly simple. Because that was the poll reflective of the scenario of not leaving the EU by the 31st of October. Which is the scenario I was discussing. We are not leaving with a "Theresa May like deal" on 31st October. I don't really care about the polls - my point was that the election letter was a clever rouse to distract everyone from the fact he hasn't delivered Brext on 31st October and in fact could now deliver it but chooses instead to delay. I thought it was a fairly simple and straightforward point. You don’t care about polls ? Why fucking post them then you whopper ? Quote
DirtySanchez Posted October 25, 2019 Posted October 25, 2019 14 minutes ago, Moon boy said: I will feed your obsession with my opinions, At the moment I am so pissed off with duplicitous dishonest MP’s of all Parties, the biased BBC and other so called impartial News platforms, the corrupt EU, the Judiciary, people who voted in a Referendum who won’t accept the result of said Referendum who now want another ‘legally binding ‘ Referendum who pay lip service to the word Democracy that I feel if I am not allowed the chance to cast my one vote very soon in a GE I would be open, despite my advancing years, to a more physical demonstration of my anger and frustration. As a Democrat I believe the ‘silent majority’ will triumph at the next GE, as it did in 2016 then we’ll see what happens next, I’d like to state now I will be accepting the outcome of the GE, hung Parliament or not. I would just like the opportunity to cast my vote, So all these bastards of democracy I'll ask you in a year time what you've done I expect the answer is fuck all Quote
miamiwhite Posted October 25, 2019 Author Posted October 25, 2019 4 hours ago, Spider said: They'd lose a lot of the support they have. 2 wins would put most protests to bed. There'll always be people moaning, but a follow up win would nail it. Swinson has repeatedly said she’ll never accept a Leave victory. Hardly surprising when that piano peggy gob cow rakes in almost £4million a year from her husband’s firm is it ? Quote
Escobarp Posted October 25, 2019 Posted October 25, 2019 1 minute ago, DirtySanchez said: So all these bastards of democracy I'll ask you in a year time what you've done I expect the answer is fuck all I wouldn’t be too sure. Not ballooning in anyway but I think if this did get stopped you would see an altogether more sinister set of protests Quote
Moon boy Posted October 25, 2019 Posted October 25, 2019 9 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: So all these bastards of democracy I'll ask you in a year time what you've done I expect the answer is fuck all What would you do? Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 25, 2019 Posted October 25, 2019 51 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: Aye but let's look at Farage's record That's all we can judge him on Doesn't look good So what? Politically, he's arguably been the most influential chap in recent times. His ukip party forced a referendum. Do you believe we'd have had one of he hadn't created such a stir? The only current/former leaders in parliament that have ever won an election are in the conservative party- that alone won't guarantee them victory! Quote
Guest Posted October 25, 2019 Posted October 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Winchester White said: I see your point. However, if I recall right (I might be wrong as I was a pup and going off dads witterings) Major won an election with the manifesto pledge for the EU (Maastricht I think?) I don’t recall that being the case, but happy to be wrong. i think I remember Labour and the Lib Dems (or whatever they were called at the time) voting against it. Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted October 25, 2019 Posted October 25, 2019 1 hour ago, DirtySanchez said: Why can't you answer them? Google’s your friend, no need to keep asking me questions for no apparent reason. Quote
Guest Posted October 25, 2019 Posted October 25, 2019 Just now, Mounts Kipper said: Google’s your friend, no need to keep asking me questions for no apparent reason. Who won the FA Cup in 1894? Quote
Escobarp Posted October 25, 2019 Posted October 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Who won the FA Cup in 1894? Dunno but jo swinson wants to overturn the result Quote
paulhanley Posted October 25, 2019 Posted October 25, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Dunno but jo swinson wants to overturn the result Notts County 4 Bolton Wanderers 1 - 1894 FA Cup Final result! I reckon we should certainly try to overturn the result. Notts County didn't know what they were playing for and told a load of lies in the dressing room before the game. They're just a bunch of thick peasants anyway aren't they? Let's have a replay. Let's revoke the FA Cup. Blah, blah, bleat, bleat. Edited October 25, 2019 by paulhanley Quote
Spider Posted October 25, 2019 Posted October 25, 2019 11 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Dunno but jo swinson wants to overturn the result 😁😁😁😁 Quote
Casino Posted October 25, 2019 Posted October 25, 2019 4 hours ago, Sweep said: To be fair, Moon Boy said we were definitely leaving at the end of March, as it was law and couldn't be stopped......he then was ecstatic that Johnson got the gig, as he said that definitely meant we would leave at the end of October, and again, no way it could be stopped.....well that doesn't look like it's going to happen now. I await his next "We're definitely leaving on XX date, and no way can it be stopped or pushed back" as well as an update on his "Good Ship Brexit" saga, which looks like it might have hit some choppy waters 😀 Arf Quote
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