Politics

[Spider]

Whatever your opinion of Farage, the fact is that he’s been very influential over the last few years.

His relevance dropped like a stone in 2016, but it’s wrong to say he hasn’t made an impact. Backers and all.

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

3 minutes ago, Ani said:

What have I tried ? 
 

Once the referendum went through ‘it’ was always happening everybody irrespective of side had a right to try and get the result that best suited what they wanted. 
 

Not sure which bits I have altered or been selective about The implication that Remainers alone took this to the brink is not true. You say the ERG types wanted no deal so surely in their interests to delay more than anyone else ? 

You've tried the farage being a mouthpiece bit. Was incorrect then and still is.

You could have read up on it, but nah, that wouldn't fit well with your real knowledge. 

Oh and no, if the erg didn't want a deal, they wouldn't vote for one would they? Like it or not it still is brexit though.

 

Edited December 27, 2020 by Tonge moor green jacket

[Ani]

13 minutes ago, crawshawbooth said:

it is  mate  because in this tiny window of opinion you could join any party with the biggest flag that you think represents you

 5 mins into any meeting and you think "did i go in the right door tonight"

Always been interested in politics but as an idealist student never felt my views were represented by a single party. 
I did a years sabbatical in the student union, elected position. I stood as the ‘only non left wing candidate’ the other three were members of the student Labour Group. 
Not being disrespectful to UKIP but as a single issue party suppose would be easier. 

[Escobarp]

1 minute ago, Ani said:

Always been interested in politics but as an idealist student never felt my views were represented by a single party. 
I did a years sabbatical in the student union, elected position. I stood as the ‘only non left wing candidate’ the other three were members of the student Labour Group. 
Not being disrespectful to UKIP but as a single issue party suppose would be easier. 

Surely it would be easier to be involved with labour as they don’t really support or confront anything currently? 

[crawshawbooth]

1 minute ago, Spider said:

Whatever your opinion of Farage, the fact is that he’s been very influential over the last few years.

His relevance dropped like a stone in 2016, but it’s wrong to say he hasn’t made an impact. Backers and all.

 

thats it for me he was very influential, but i dont want to sit in those shitty clubs anymore and do the door stepping . it is over

we need to move on and stop giving brass to Germany / Francethen they decide where it goes

who the fuck borrows money from bank and gives it away ?

[crawshawbooth]

6 minutes ago, Ani said:

Always been interested in politics but as an idealist student never felt my views were represented by a single party. 
I did a years sabbatical in the student union, elected position. I stood as the ‘only non left wing candidate’ the other three were members of the student Labour Group. 
Not being disrespectful to UKIP but as a single issue party suppose would be easier. 

thing is fella , because it was a single issue party i got behind it 

before that all parties are smoke n mirrors

 and they still are , buffoon Boris no more represents me than Basil Brush

[Ani]

2 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

You've tried the farage being a mouthpiece bit. Was incorrect then and still is.

You could have read up on it, but nah, that wouldn't fit well with your real knowledge. 

Just imagine you actually read what I posted and understood it. UKIP was a fledgling party with , compared to the big 2 or 3 very few members. 
 

However the party picked up massive funding from a small number of very rich backers. This bought them massive amounts of publicity and prominence. The reason they picked up the funding is because Farage was exceptionally good as a front man. That is not to say he did not believe what he was preaching. 
 

Aaron Banks says he funded Farage to the tune of £450k in a year. That is a matter of record. Do you honestly think for that money he did not get to make the calls. Farage and a number of his supporters admitted not fielding candidates in the election was gut wrenching for him. 
 

None of this is illegal. I refer to Farage as a mouthpiece because he is at the behest of the likes of Banks. I 100% believe Farage is committed to getting the UK out of Europe but the power behind his throne is £££. 

[Ani]

11 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Surely it would be easier to be involved with labour as they don’t really support or confront anything currently? 

This was in the 80s when the Labour Party was still left wing. 

[crawshawbooth]

47 minutes ago, crawshawbooth said:

no not elected , but alot of people voted for me because i was prepared to represent them

it is not an easy thing to get involved with and there are mountains of paperwork

plus there is a financial cost

 is there anything in your life that you would care about enough to stand up for and represent other people

run and tell mummy i made a spelling mistake

[Spider]

For £450k a year, I’d do a big shit live on telly every morning. I doubt most people are any different.

[Spider]

2 minutes ago, crawshawbooth said:

run and tell mummy i made a spelling mistake

Have you just spoken to yourself in the fourth person?

[Ani]

6 minutes ago, crawshawbooth said:

thing is fella , because it was a single issue party i got behind it 

before that all parties are smoke n mirrors

 and they still are , buffoon Boris no more represents me than Basil Brush

That is what I found. My heart is definitely still on the left but more Blair than Kinnock. 
 

But I found myself hating the champagne socialism of that generation. I have also spent the majority of my life working in commercial rules where the job was to generate profit. A small period working in housing really showed me how the ‘ideals’ really stop an organisation being efficient. 
 

 

[crawshawbooth]

2 minutes ago, Spider said:

Have you just spoken to yourself in the fourth person?

booze kicking in , not angry man

 

[DazBob]

Crikey. Season of goodwill to all men and that.

[Spider]

1 minute ago, crawshawbooth said:

booze kicking in , not angry man

 

😁😁

go for it

Its xmas !!

[crawshawbooth]

1 minute ago, Ani said:

That is what I found. My heart is definitely still on the left but more Blair than Kinnock. 
 

But I found myself hating the champagne socialism of that generation. I have also spent the majority of my life working in commercial rules where the job was to generate profit. A small period working in housing really showed me how the ‘ideals’ really stop an organisation being efficient. 
 

 

what gets me is the parasites at every level

and then watch  people at the bottom busting a gut for an organisation to function

whether that is a state or private industry

should we all just google Lord Adonis before bedtime

[crawshawbooth]

i now have tramp juice with me

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Cheese said:

It's fun watching Brexiters declare victory over this abject failure. "Hoorah! We've taken back control just like we told you we would! Ignore the details!"

Give it up, Cheese, mate

don’t become a parody of what is, admittedly, a pretty weak self

[Cheese]

Just now, boltondiver said:

Give it up, Cheese, mate

don’t become a parody of what is, admittedly, a pretty weak self

Give what up?

[crawshawbooth]

8 minutes ago, Spider said:

😁😁

go for it

Its xmas !!

how good are those ales Yourie comes up with 

Howard Keel Colotosmy bag is pretty funny

diving into OJ blacks n a bottle of barnstormers 

[Cheese]

9 minutes ago, crawshawbooth said:

what gets me is the parasites at every level

and then watch  people at the bottom busting a gut for an organisation to function

whether that is a state or private industry

should we all just google Lord Adonis before bedtime

What are your thoughts on Nigel Farage, Jacob Rees-Mogg, and Boris Johnson?

[crawshawbooth]

watch them on the media 

only ever met one of them , but he impressed me enough to give up a lot of my time for him

i believed what he did , because  European model  slowly destroyed my business

the other 2 are actors who have access to more money than you can believe

where it goes from here i dont know , but if i ever feel strong enough to have an opinion other than bleating on the internet 

i will be there again , pretty sure your mummy says it is way past your bedtime little cheeseballs

[Cheese]

1 minute ago, crawshawbooth said:

watch them on the media 

only ever met one of them , but he impressed me enough to give up a lot of my time for him

i believed what he did , because  European model  slowly destroyed my business

the other 2 are actors who have access to more money than you can believe

where it goes from here i dont know , but if i ever feel strong enough to have an opinion other than bleating on the internet 

i will be there again , pretty sure your mummy says it is way past your bedtime little cheeseballs

Ah, so you were brainwashed by Nigel, who convinced you that foreigners were to blame for the failure of your business - rather than your own incompetence. Makes sense now.

[crawshawbooth]

Just now, Cheese said:

Ah, so you were brainwashed by Nigel, who convinced you that foreigners were to blame for the failure of your business - rather than your own incompetence. Makes sense now.

how could any new arrivals stop me buying product from the USA

[crawshawbooth]

Get your mum to have a little look at European medical devices

as in purchasing and MDD standards , pop back tomorrow and explain where i slipped up over 20 years