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What is that "mate" of mine Sadiq Khan trying to achieve ?

 

You lost you demented little cretin, get over it and concentrate on your job you terrorist sympathiser.

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Haven’t seen any comments about the first meeting in Prague of the European Political Community. Anyone have any thoughts on it.

Nice photo of our Prime Minister with her Czech counterpart in my favourite spot in Prague.

 

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1 minute ago, BobyBrno said:

Haven’t seen any comments about the first meeting in Prague of the European Political Community. Anyone have any thoughts on it.

Nice photo of our Prime Minister with her Czech counterpart in my favourite spot in Prague.

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A lot of Brexiters must be seething. We've left the Single Market (which was the only good bit of EU membership, according to them), only to become bit-part players in a new European Political Community (which was the aspect of the EU they despised the most).

26 minutes ago, Cheese said:

A lot of Brexiters must be seething. We've left the Single Market (which was the only good bit of EU membership, according to them), only to become bit-part players in a new European Political Community (which was the aspect of the EU they despised the most).

I agree apart from the bit players. That’s just your opinion. Time will tell but as a remainer myself, I think it shows we are still involved and an important part of European politics. 
With the threat from Russia, it’s important that Europe shows solidarity.

5 hours ago, Casino said:

Im pleased to see this

Be interesting to see what hes supposed to have done, mind

Something to do with a Spice Girl.😃

This government gets stranger every day

50 minutes ago, Cheese said:

A lot of Brexiters must be seething. We've left the Single Market (which was the only good bit of EU membership, according to them), only to become bit-part players in a new European Political Community (which was the aspect of the EU they despised the most).

Not at all, it’s good to talk, cost us nothing, nothing to lose so I don’t see a problem with it. 

3 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Not at all, it’s good to talk, cost us nothing, nothing to lose so I don’t see a problem with it. 

I said "a lot", not all.

2 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Not at all, it’s good to talk, cost us nothing, nothing to lose so I don’t see a problem with it. 

They are fucked without us. Of course they insist that we are involved in anything related to security. Who else in Europe would be capable of liberating any subjugated European state?

'Bit players'. He's playing with his bit again.

Be interesting to see what happens when Italy ramps up the leaving debate.

Some Tory bias on question time 

 

11 hours ago, BobyBrno said:

I agree apart from the bit players. That’s just your opinion. Time will tell but as a remainer myself, I think it shows we are still involved and an important part of European politics. 
With the threat from Russia, it’s important that Europe shows solidarity.

Replace stupidity for opinion sums it up much better. 

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8 hours ago, bolty58 said:

They are fucked without us. Of course they insist that we are involved in anything related to security. Who else in Europe would be capable of liberating any subjugated European state?

'Bit players'. He's playing with his bit again.

Be interesting to see what happens when Italy ramps up the leaving debate.

Thicker than a whale omelette 

This is the "EU Army" Brexiters were screeching about in 2016.

 

Worth 10 minutes of anyones time.

Why can't everybody see this :(

 

 

14 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Worth 10 minutes of anyones time.

Why can't everybody see this :(

 

 

The flaw in this plan is no fucker ever going to vote for that vision… think the oligarchs better groom someone else. Never heard such poppycock. 

7 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

The flaw in this plan is no fucker ever going to vote for that vision… think the oligarchs better groom someone else. Never heard such poppycock. 

They convinced you to vote for Brexit against your own interests...

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16 minutes ago, Cheese said:

They convinced you to vote for Brexit against your own interests...

No they didn’t… I was well aware of the downsides…. Even the lies and over exaggerated downside were screeched incessantly every day and for years. 

10 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

No they didn’t… I was well aware of the downsides…. Even the lies and over exaggerated downside were screeched incessantly every day and for years. 

If you were aware and willing to accept the downsides, why do you always jump to defend or deny them?

"It's easier to fool people than it is to convince them that they've been fooled."

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1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said:

No they didn’t… I was well aware of the downsides…. Even the lies and over exaggerated downside were screeched incessantly every day and for years. 

Well that's even dafter.

11 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Well that's even dafter.

"I was well aware that I was voting for something that would have a negative impact". Bizarre.

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11 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

No they didn’t… I was well aware of the downsides…. Even the lies and over exaggerated downside were screeched incessantly every day and for years. 

What about the lies and over exaggerated upsides?

You're a clever bloke mate, you're not naive enough to think Truss gaining power isnt to do with donors and oligarchs surely?

Rishi was an absolute shoe in. Their backers didn't want him though.

Vested interests.

 

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13 hours ago, gonzo said:

Worth 10 minutes of anyones time.

Why can't everybody see this :(

 

 

He's no Adam Curtis but it's an interesting take on things 

I was put off by the name "double down news" at the end though 

Also suggestions now that Kwazi's champagne reception with the hedge funds broke ministerial rules.

2 hours ago, Traf said:

Also suggestions now that Kwazi's champagne reception with the hedge funds broke ministerial rules.

Wonder if crashing the pound came up in convo?

5 hours ago, gonzo said:

What about the lies and over exaggerated upsides?

You're a clever bloke mate, you're not naive enough to think Truss gaining power isnt to do with donors and oligarchs surely?

Rishi was and absolute shoe in. Their backers didn't want him though.

Vested interests.

 


Lies, mistruths, and exaggerated claims from both sides, fundamentally for me it boiled down to no longer wanting to go down the federalist route, an ultimately I don’t trust the Germans and French and rather be out of their tentacles. 

The Tory party members voted her in… doubt the oligarchs had many votes. 

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"I voted to make my country poorer because I don't trust the Germans and French" 😂

6 hours ago, gonzo said:

What about the lies and over exaggerated upsides?

You're a clever bloke mate, you're not naive enough to think Truss gaining power isnt to do with donors and oligarchs surely?

Rishi was an absolute shoe in. Their backers didn't want him though.

Vested interests.

 

The main reason Truss won the leadership contest ahead of Sunak is because the Tory party membership were pissed off with him overspending (in their eyes) during his period as Chancellor.

That and the perception he stabbed Boris in the back to advance his own interests.

And probably also the fact that the longer the leadership went on the more it became clear he was Will from the inbetweeners.

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