Politics

[bolty58]

17 hours ago, Ani said:

The BBC must be bias every day they are reporting another fuck up by the Tories. Never said a bad word about Jeremy Corbyn
 

They started by reporting back handers for PPC contracts, the appointment of a minsters wife to run track and trace, Dominic Cummings, funding of number 10 redecoration ( and the cost) , Boris telling lies, number 10 hosting parties, Boris telling more lies, the pound tanking, interest rates going up, issues with Brexit and the Irish border. 
 

The fact is whatever side someone is on they accuse the BBC of bias against them. 
 

You have to be wearing the bluest blinkers in the world to think this lot have not fucked up. The infighting is almost Labour like for its self destruction. IMO they have grown complacent in power and are totally self indulgent. The fiasco of the mini budget highlights this. The OBR is there to verify Govt numbers how dysfunctional do you have to be to think you can just ignore them ? But when you have gotten away with ignoring your own Standards Governance whenever it suited why not ? 

Gotten? FFS.

[bolty58]

16 hours ago, kent_white said:

No - I think the same thing.

It's just a convenient trope to blame the BBC for everything.

They get criticism from everybody - which means they're probably doing a good job. 

Al Jazeera translates as 'the Island' apparently. They get the same treatment as the BBC in the Arab world. Which again - probably means they're being politically impartial. 

I would agree that the BBC has a socially liberal bias though. In that it favours inclusivity and multi culturalism and pushes that agenda. 

That's not the same thing though. Although it's often conflated as being.

 

A reasoned argument as usual. I just think you are wrong and you pretty much highlight the reasons why in your last two sentences.

[bolty58]

14 hours ago, Zico said:

it's like a republican watching bbc news for a week after the queen died then complaining they were bias and royalist

 

Is it fuck. Way too simplistic.

[bolty58]

11 hours ago, Ani said:

FWIW I think the loyalty to one party is based as much as what the party stands for as specific policies. 
Simplistically I have always thought Labour was about supporting the 'working man' directly whereas the Tories are about supporting more of the business side and believe having a strong economy will ultimately benefit the ' working man' by providing jobs and economic welfare.

Both sides have their appeal and both sides have their flaws, which is why people will flick from one to another. So here policies and personalities come into play. IMO the Labour Party under Corbyn seemed to have lost touch with the issues affecting the 'working man' they would rather be discussing the price of organic coffee in Angola and making  sure  one legged lesbians had a say in the distribution of profits. Champagne Socialists. The Tories by promising to deliver Brexit connected to people in a way the Labour Party could not. Unfortunately their track record since the election is appalling. They seem more intent on infighting and lining the pockets of their mates than running the country. May was weak, Boris a serial liar and Truss so out of touch it has been embarrassing. 
The massive challenge now is that MPs in marginal seats will need a Government that only makes decisions that are vote winners with the 'working man' so  for instance limiting increases in benefits might be what Truss wants to do but won't get through , so back to rounds of infighting.

Labour can just sit there and let the Tories implode. Be interesting to see how the fringe parties support moves in next few weeks. 

We often butt heads but this is an excellent post. I think most of what you predict is very likely to come to pass. Obviously hoping for a massive turnaround in the economy from the (so far labelled 'unpopular') new measures brought in by the current encumbent. It's the hope that kills you. There is another side of me which would like to see the reds in just so that some of the electorate can actually experience it and learn. Schadenfreude and all that.

Have a like.

[Spider]

3 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Is it fuck. Way too simplistic.

He’s just broken another Irony-o-meter.

that must be the tenth one this year.

[Ani]

4 hours ago, bolty58 said:

We often butt heads but this is an excellent post. I think most of what you predict is very likely to come to pass. Obviously hoping for a massive turnaround in the economy from the (so far labelled 'unpopular') new measures brought in by the current encumbent. It's the hope that kills you. There is another side of me which would like to see the reds in just so that some of the electorate can actually experience it and learn. Schadenfreude and all that.

Have a like.

Lol I will treasure it. 👍👍

[Zico]

5 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Is it fuck. Way too simplistic.

BBC bad 

GB News good

[Not in Crawley]

5 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Sky are more left wing than the BBC. Look at all the people they jettisoned to replace with politically correct quota's of BAME, LGBTRXZQY alphabetties etc. Unsurprisingly, most - including the very reputable Adam Boulton - have followed Frangopoulos to GB News. The only news channel worth watching these days.

So yes - both you mention have significant left wing bias as do ITV which is slightly less blatant about it. Unfortunately, like most, it seems that you can't see the wood for the trees and are willing to swallow news slanted towards the wishes of Hollywood and the New York Times.

Thick as mince.

[Cheese]

 

[Winchester White]

Jesus, Angelos Frangopoulos is another right up Murdoch's ring piece. Maybe GB News should poach Tucker Carlson and show Farage how it's really done, eh?

 

[bolty58]

1 hour ago, Zico said:

BBC bad 

GB News good

See. It's becoming a habit.

[bolty58]

1 hour ago, Ani said:

Lol I will treasure it. 👍👍

I am a river to my people.

[bolty58]

1 hour ago, Winchester White said:

Jesus, Angelos Frangopoulos is another right up Murdoch's ring piece.

 

Jesus or Angelos Frangopoulos?

[mickbrown]

BBC bias?

 

 

[kent_white]

2 hours ago, Winchester White said:

Jesus, Angelos Frangopoulos is another right up Murdoch's ring piece. Maybe GB News should poach Tucker Carlson and show Farage how it's really done, eh?

 

What's in his bag?

[little whitt]

On 05/10/2022 at 20:57, mickbrown said:

As I said previously they might concentrate on governing rather than behaving like cunts.

Worth a shot.

THIS

[little whitt]

On 05/10/2022 at 21:00, mickbrown said:

2 years until an election. Be patient.

A Weeks a Long time in Politics 

Never Mind 2 Years 

[mickbrown]

17 minutes ago, little whitt said:

A Weeks a Long time in Politics 

Never Mind 2 Years 

You're right. Imagine the damage these fuckwits could unleash in two years.

[gonzo]

5 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

You're right. Imagine the damage these fuckwits could unleash in two years.

How about 12 😳

[Winchester White]

Finland:

UK:

[Ani]

Trade Minister Connor Burns has been sacked following a complaint about his behaviour. 
 

The level of consistency should be admired. 

[Casino]

26 minutes ago, Ani said:

Trade Minister Connor Burns has been sacked following a complaint about his behaviour. 
 

The level of consistency should be admired. 

Im pleased to see this

Be interesting to see what hes supposed to have done, mind

[Traf]

1 hour ago, Casino said:

Im pleased to see this

Be interesting to see what hes supposed to have done, mind

Not the first time he's lost his position under a cloud.

Bad egg.

[Spider]

That Finnish prime minister fancies me. 100%

[Morizio]

22 minutes ago, Spider said:

That Finnish prime minister fancies me. 100%

I’ve already ruined her