Politics

[Mounts Kipper]

1 minute ago, royal white said:

Is this the biased media who support the tories? 

Bolty is right on this one… BBC can’t wait to get shut of the Tory party, it’s all about self preservation. 

[tomski]

8 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Bolty is right on this one… BBC can’t wait to get shut of the Tory party, it’s all about self preservation. 

Isn’t it for everyone though?

[Traf]

10 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Bolty is right on this one… BBC can’t wait to get shut of the Tory party, it’s all about self preservation. 

I feel the same way (as the BBC)

[Mounts Kipper]

Just now, tomski said:

Isn’t it for everyone though?

The BBC supposed to be impartial. 

[tomski]

1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said:

The BBC supposed to be impartial. 

Fair point. Hard to say some good stuff about the tories at the moment. Even if you take out one party wants to remove fee paying.

[Mounts Kipper]

13 minutes ago, tomski said:

Fair point. Hard to say some good stuff about the tories at the moment. Even if you take out one party wants to remove fee paying.

Id not be in favour of scrapping the licence fee, even though it’s clear the BBC are far from impartial these days. The BBC is a worldwide institution and that should continue.

Edited October 6, 2022 by Mounts Kipper

[BobyBrno]

8 hours ago, Spider said:

I can’t even remember what that bet was 😁😁

im getting old 

😊 I said this was the worst opposition ever and bet £100 to be proved different. You said Jeremy Corbyn. I paid the same night.

[Spider]

Just now, BobyBrno said:

😊 I said this was the worst opposition ever and bet £100 to be proved different. You said Jeremy Corbyn. I paid the same night.

😁😁😁

first bet I’ve won in years.

[BobyBrno]

2 minutes ago, Spider said:

😁😁😁

first bet I’ve won in years.

Derain house was the real winner👍

[Spider]

8 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Derain house was the real winner👍

Aye. They’ve just had some great new work done as well. Some place that and always worth a few quid if you have some spare. 🥰

[gonzo]

10 hours ago, Casino said:

Have you always voted labour?

Surely you are one of the ones that truss needs on side for growth, growth, growth

...only thing growing is my hatred for these clowns in charge.

I couldn't vote Labour with Corbyn in charge. He fucked the job up good and proper and let this clowns bowl about and do what they want. 

Was Lib Dem for me last time. Will 100% be Labour this.

[Not in Crawley]

23 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Id not be in favour of scrapping the licence fee, even though it’s clear the BBC are far from impartial these days. The BBC is a worldwide institution and that should continue.

This is actually just a gut feeling people have rather than, y'know an actual fact.

You've also just had a high profile presenter leave over the links to the Conservatives, and the Chairman of th BBC board of directors has donated over £400,000 to the Conservative party, workied alonside Sunak at Goldman Sachs. The ties at the top of the BBC are much closer to the Conservatives.

It's a back-wash of the old urban, metro, liberal, university educated elite that has been propogated by populists for years now - and was of the main reason is to get people to switch off from impartial news and onto places such as GB News where they can control the narrative. And it works - see Bolty.

You might not agree with everything - and that's good as it has to have balance, and it that balance on occassion upsets everyone, but in brining it down we attack an institution we should all uphold no matter what side of the political line we are on.

[bolty58]

50 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Change wouldn’t happen if the Tory party had done a good job, they are in a perfect storm but it is one that they have contributed greatly to over the last 2/3 months. The Tories are lurching to the right and Labour Party are recovering the centre ground when that happens only 1 end result. 

Yes, I agree. After 4 terms of Conservative government, the Labour Party will get a good chunk of the centre ground. They would have anyway IMO simply because the electorate gets bored with the 'same old' and vote for change. I have seen it over and over again over a lifetime, particularly after 4 terms in office. Happened down here with the greatest PM they have ever had (John Howard - the surly bastard who grudgingly placed World Cup winners medals around England necks in 2003 - apart from that, definitely the best I have experienced down here). The one who solved illegal immigrants arriving on boats as well as guiding the country to a period of outstanding economic growth which was labelled 'the boom'. The red rags soon put a stop to that however but there's always a bright side to things. The One Legged Black Lesbians against the bomb plus other similar indispensable minority fringe groups enjoyed funding as never before thanks to four terms of prosperity and the substantial 'war chest' which had been built up. Frittering it away on minorities plus the famous pink batts scam and others must have been an absolute delight for Kevin Rudd and his union funded henchmen. Never let a Rudd near a nations rudder.

If history repeats itself yet again, one red term followed by contrite conservatism seems to be the recurring theme.

[royal white]

1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Bolty is right on this one… BBC can’t wait to get shut of the Tory party, it’s all about self preservation. 

Oh I know that! The way people go on that media are backing the tories is a bit odd in most cases. Everyday I see them getting ripped a new on the news 

[royal white]

8 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

Yes, I agree. After 4 terms of Conservative government, the Labour Party will get a good chunk of the centre ground. They would have anyway IMO simply because the electorate gets bored with the 'same old' and vote for change. I have seen it over and over again over a lifetime, particularly after 4 terms in office. Happened down here with the greatest PM they have ever had (John Howard - the surly bastard who grudgingly placed World Cup winners medals around England necks in 2003 - apart from that, definitely the best I have experienced down here). The one who solved illegal immigrants arriving on boats as well as guiding the country to a period of outstanding economic growth which was labelled 'the boom'. The red rags soon put a stop to that however but there's always a bright side to things. The One Legged Black Lesbians against the bomb plus other similar indispensable minority fringe groups enjoyed funding as never before thanks to four terms of prosperity and the substantial 'war chest' which had been built up. Frittering it away on minorities plus the famous pink batts scam and others must have been an absolute delight for Kevin Rudd and his union funded henchmen. Never let a Rudd near a nations rudder.

If history repeats itself yet again, one red term followed by contrite conservatism seems to be the recurring theme.

Red term where they blame tories for everything that is wrong with the country, this will carry on throughout their term, blues come back in and blame Labour for everyone that is wrong with the country and carry on throughout their term……and repeat. 

[Spider]

12 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

Yes, I agree. After 4 terms of Conservative government, the Labour Party will get a good chunk of the centre ground. They would have anyway IMO simply because the electorate gets bored with the 'same old' and vote for change. I have seen it over and over again over a lifetime, particularly after 4 terms in office. Happened down here with the greatest PM they have ever had (John Howard - the surly bastard who grudgingly placed World Cup winners medals around England necks in 2003 - apart from that, definitely the best I have experienced down here). The one who solved illegal immigrants arriving on boats as well as guiding the country to a period of outstanding economic growth which was labelled 'the boom'. The red rags soon put a stop to that however but there's always a bright side to things. The One Legged Black Lesbians against the bomb plus other similar indispensable minority fringe groups enjoyed funding as never before thanks to four terms of prosperity and the substantial 'war chest' which had been built up. Frittering it away on minorities plus the famous pink batts scam and others must have been an absolute delight for Kevin Rudd and his union funded henchmen. Never let a Rudd near a nations rudder.

If history repeats itself yet again, one red term followed by contrite conservatism seems to be the recurring theme.

At its peak in the early 90’s, Australia was having to deal with just less than 1,000 people arriving by boat. So around 20 per week

more recently, it’s been in double figures. So 1 a week. But it’s on the rise.

This John Howard must have really had his work cut out,

 

 

Edited October 6, 2022 by Spider

[Nowack]

12 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

if history repeats itself yet again, one red term followed by contrite conservatism seems to be the recurring theme.

I think this has happened once in the seventies, and I don't think I have ever heard of Thatcher described as contrite.

[gonzo]

Is it just me that doesnt think The BBC has a labour bias?

Sky normally run all the same stories and analysis. Are they bias too?

[BobyBrno]

8 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Is it just me that doesnt think The BBC has a labour bias?

Sky normally run all the same stories and analysis. Are they bias too?

I’ve said before, the BBC are a better opposition than Labour. Having said that, come election time they get it right with unbiased coverage. 

[Zico]

13 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Is it just me that doesnt think The BBC has a labour bias?

Sky normally run all the same stories and analysis. Are they bias too?

I don't see, I'm pretty much bang on central and don't vote for either so don't see myself as having bias either 

[BobyBrno]

Thinking back, the BBC were pretty much the same with the previous Labour government. It was a while ago of course so many will not remember.

[jmjhb]

44 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

The One Legged Black Lesbians

I think I saw them play at Manchester Academy once

[Ani]

The BBC must be bias every day they are reporting another fuck up by the Tories. Never said a bad word about Jeremy Corbyn
 

They started by reporting back handers for PPC contracts, the appointment of a minsters wife to run track and trace, Dominic Cummings, funding of number 10 redecoration ( and the cost) , Boris telling lies, number 10 hosting parties, Boris telling more lies, the pound tanking, interest rates going up, issues with Brexit and the Irish border. 
 

The fact is whatever side someone is on they accuse the BBC of bias against them. 
 

You have to be wearing the bluest blinkers in the world to think this lot have not fucked up. The infighting is almost Labour like for its self destruction. IMO they have grown complacent in power and are totally self indulgent. The fiasco of the mini budget highlights this. The OBR is there to verify Govt numbers how dysfunctional do you have to be to think you can just ignore them ? But when you have gotten away with ignoring your own Standards Governance whenever it suited why not ? 

[Ani]

For balance the Blair/Brown idea that they could just choose between themselves to make Brown PM shows that Labour when last in power were not much better. 
 

Power corrupts which is why we need a strong opposition to keep the fuckers in check 

[Not in Crawley]

1 hour ago, bolty58 said:

Yes, I agree. After 4 terms of Conservative government, the Labour Party will get a good chunk of the centre ground. They would have anyway IMO simply because the electorate gets bored with the 'same old' and vote for change. I have seen it over and over again over a lifetime, particularly after 4 terms in office. Happened down here with the greatest PM they have ever had (John Howard - the surly bastard who grudgingly placed World Cup winners medals around England necks in 2003 - apart from that, definitely the best I have experienced down here). The one who solved illegal immigrants arriving on boats as well as guiding the country to a period of outstanding economic growth which was labelled 'the boom'. The red rags soon put a stop to that however but there's always a bright side to things. The One Legged Black Lesbians against the bomb plus other similar indispensable minority fringe groups enjoyed funding as never before thanks to four terms of prosperity and the substantial 'war chest' which had been built up. Frittering it away on minorities plus the famous pink batts scam and others must have been an absolute delight for Kevin Rudd and his union funded henchmen. Never let a Rudd near a nations rudder.

If history repeats itself yet again, one red term followed by contrite conservatism seems to be the recurring theme.

Bolty Fact Check.

Really, the only time we've had one labour term, then a conservative term, was in 1925 with Ramsey McDonald. Followed by a Lib/Lab pact and then the First National Goverment led by McDonald formed because of the great depression.

Then post war Atlee gvt still held onto power (just) in 1940  after winning in 1945 but due to the silm minority called an election again in 1951. 

Wilson had two terms, Wilson and Callaghan had two terms between them (albeit on with a minority gvt) 

Then Blair to Brown - three terms.

So, all in all, bog all of a recurring theme.