Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted October 9, 2022 Members Posted October 9, 2022 6 hours ago, gonzo said: What about the lies and over exaggerated upsides? You're a clever bloke mate, you're not naive enough to think Truss gaining power isnt to do with donors and oligarchs surely? Rishi was an absolute shoe in. Their backers didn't want him though. Vested interests. The main reason Truss won the leadership contest ahead of Sunak is because the Tory party membership were pissed off with him overspending (in their eyes) during his period as Chancellor. That and the perception he stabbed Boris in the back to advance his own interests. And probably also the fact that the longer the leadership went on the more it became clear he was Will from the inbetweeners. Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted October 9, 2022 Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Cheese said: "I voted to make my country poorer because I don't trust the Germans and French" 😂 Did you miss the bit about federalism? Edited October 9, 2022 by Mounts Kipper Quote
Site Supporter Cheese Posted October 9, 2022 Site Supporter Posted October 9, 2022 Just now, Mounts Kipper said: Did you miss the bit about federalism? No, I was commenting on your "ultimate" point. 😁 Quote
gonzo Posted October 9, 2022 Posted October 9, 2022 4 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: The main reason Truss won the leadership contest ahead of Sunak is because the Tory party membership were pissed off with him overspending (in their eyes) during his period as Chancellor. That and the perception he stabbed Boris in the back to advance his own interests. And probably also the fact that the longer the leadership went on the more it became clear he was Will from the inbetweeners. ....Or the MPs were paid by donors and backers to vote that way. Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted October 9, 2022 Posted October 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, gonzo said: ....Or the MPs were paid by donors and backers to vote that way. The Tory party membership selected Truss not MPs. Quote
Sweep Posted October 9, 2022 Posted October 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said: The Tory party membership selected Truss not MPs. ...but the MPs voted for Truss to get down to the last 2, that the membership had to select from, so they most certainly had a massive input Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted October 9, 2022 Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Sweep said: ...but the MPs voted for Truss to get down to the last 2, that the membership had to select from, so they most certainly had a massive input Gonzo insinuating that all the MPs were bribed by oligarchs and donors to get down to the last 2 … surely you don’t. FFS It’s a parallel universe on here these days… Edited October 9, 2022 by Mounts Kipper Quote
Sweep Posted October 9, 2022 Posted October 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Gonzo insinuating that all the MPs were bribed by oligarchs and donors to get down to the last 2 … surely you don’t. FFS It’s a parallel universe on here these days… No, I don't think that Quote
Site Supporter Cheese Posted October 9, 2022 Site Supporter Posted October 9, 2022 11 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Gonzo insinuating that all the MPs were bribed by oligarchs and donors to get down to the last 2 … surely you don’t. FFS It’s a parallel universe on here these days… It's not as simple as that, and you know it. If these on-going donations were to any other party, it would be on every front page. https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/dark-money-investigations/conservative-party-russia-donors-ukraine-invasion/ Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted October 9, 2022 Posted October 9, 2022 Just now, Cheese said: It's not as simple as that, and you know it. If these on-going donations were to any other party, it would be on every front page. https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/dark-money-investigations/conservative-party-russia-donors-ukraine-invasion/ It’s quite simple really the mps didn’t have the final say the party membership did… it’s a load of utter bollocks that somehow oligarchs played any part in liz truss being selected as the current PM. In fact more MPs voted sunak so that was a giant oligarch cluster fuck. Quote
Not in Crawley Posted October 9, 2022 Posted October 9, 2022 6 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said: Lies, mistruths, and exaggerated claims from both sides, fundamentally for me it boiled down to no longer wanting to go down the federalist route, an ultimately I don’t trust the Germans and French and rather be out of their tentacles. The Tory party members voted her in… doubt the oligarchs had many votes. Wow, that's quite an admission. So basically, gut feeing based on nothing. Only two years to change, hopefully. Quote
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted October 10, 2022 Members Posted October 10, 2022 The donors have influence over the MPs but not the membership, who voted for Truss. Truss made it to the final two because Sunak's team thought they had a better chance of beating her than Mordaunt in a head to head contest and so lent her the votes to get her in there. Quote
kent_white Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 Budget plan is being brought forward to 31st October (which moron decided Halloween would be a good date for this?) Needs a big win here and a strong, positive reaction from the markets or he's toast. I imagine this is going to be funded by cuts to public services? It's not going to be pretty. We're already on our arse as it is. Quote
royal white Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 Downing Street could axe free nursey hours under new plans The PM and her Education Secretary, Kit Malthouse are believed to be looking into proposals that would see the funding paid to parents directly. This has got disaster written all over it Quote
Not in Crawley Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 11 minutes ago, kent_white said: Budget plan is being brought forward to 31st October (which moron decided Halloween would be a good date for this?) Needs a big win here and a strong, positive reaction from the markets or he's toast. I imagine this is going to be funded by cuts to public services? It's not going to be pretty. We're already on our arse as it is. Yeah I thought that - the headlines write themselves already Quote
gonzo Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 17 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: The yen is having a bad day. Was in FT the other week that their housing market was on the edge of implosion Quote
gonzo Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 1 hour ago, royal white said: Downing Street could axe free nursey hours under new plans The PM and her Education Secretary, Kit Malthouse are believed to be looking into proposals that would see the funding paid to parents directly. This has got disaster written all over it Not half. Fuck me what are they thinking 🤦♂️ Worst thing they ever did was changing it from housing benefits going to straight to landlords/intermediary to straight in their pocket. We had tennant in for 2 year who were bang on. All fell to pieces once they were given the responsibility. Soon as xmas came, our rent stopped. Ended up leaving owing us fortunes. Quote
royal white Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, gonzo said: Not half. Fuck me what are they thinking 🤦♂️ Worst thing they ever did was changing it from housing benefits going to straight to landlords/intermediary to straight in their pocket. We had tennant in for 2 year who were bang on. All fell to pieces once they were given the responsibility. Soon as xmas came, our rent stopped. Ended up leaving owing us fortunes. It’s the same with these cost of living handouts, how much will actually be spent on gas and leccy? Quote
tomski Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, royal white said: Downing Street could axe free nursey hours under new plans The PM and her Education Secretary, Kit Malthouse are believed to be looking into proposals that would see the funding paid to parents directly. This has got disaster written all over it Can’t work out what they are thinking here. I qualify for this in Jan and it will be going straight on nursery ha. Edited October 10, 2022 by tomski Quote
Moderators Zico Posted October 10, 2022 Moderators Posted October 10, 2022 48 minutes ago, gonzo said: Was in FT the other week that their housing market was on the edge of implosion I follow an account on Instagram called Cheap Japanses Houses amazing what you can get for your money in some places Quote
Site Supporter Spider Posted October 10, 2022 Site Supporter Posted October 10, 2022 Thick Cunts who had no real idea what damage Brexit would do (me, being one of them), should read this thread by a lawyer. It is proof, not opinion, that we have isolated ourselves good and proper Quote
Sweep Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 13 minutes ago, Spider said: Thick Cunts who had no real idea what damage Brexit would do (me, being one of them), should read this thread by a lawyer. It is proof, not opinion, that we have isolated ourselves good and proper I'm not sure there's much in there that most people who work in business didn't already know - we certainly knew leaving would be problematic for many, many years. Only those who "choose not to see" (ironically the self-appointed visionaries) are still claiming that "they need us more than we need them" and that any difficulties are firmly at the door of the EU. It's amazing that people are surprised that we're treated as a 3rd country, when that is 100% what we voted for Quote
Site Supporter Spider Posted October 10, 2022 Site Supporter Posted October 10, 2022 22 minutes ago, Sweep said: I'm not sure there's much in there that most people who work in business didn't already know - we certainly knew leaving would be problematic for many, many years. Only those who "choose not to see" (ironically the self-appointed visionaries) are still claiming that "they need us more than we need them" and that any difficulties are firmly at the door of the EU. It's amazing that people are surprised that we're treated as a 3rd country, when that is 100% what we voted for The benefits are coming round your corner now pal, innit Quote
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