Site Supporter fatolive Posted October 27, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted October 27, 2022 43 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: As these people are arriving from France, which is in the EU, then by the Dublin regulation, it becomes true. They should have applied for asylum in the first eu nation they arrived in. This isn't happening, as we know. If they arrived here direct from Africa for example then it wouldn't be the case. We’re not in the EU , Dublin regulations no longer apply ( to people coming here ) and if they did, it was only an expectation that the first country would deal with them , not a law that the people themselves couldn’t keep going onwards as I understand it, but, it’s moot anyway as it no longer applies . If you look on the very first pages of this subject, if it still exists I said at the time that leaving the EU would actually make it harder to stop immigrants ( as opposed to taking back control ) due to this . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted October 27, 2022 Moderators Share Posted October 27, 2022 The irony shouldnt be lost Brexiteers quoting 'good' EU regulation that no longer applies thanks to them And everybody getting worked up over this are just falling for the usual, age old, chuck shit at foreigners bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted October 27, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted October 27, 2022 1 hour ago, royal white said: Bonkers to think you couldn’t get staff for £16 an hour yet some of these are working for little more than that in a day. I wonder why 🤷🏻♂️ Who’d do these jobs if our friendly immigrants didn’t then? Destiny and her mates off the estate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Just now, Spider said: Who’d do these jobs if our friendly immigrants didn’t then? Destiny and her mates off the estate? Well we’ve already established that some are working for a lot less delivering sausages and driving Ubers. It sounds like your problem is closer to home? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little whitt Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Spider said: Who’d do these jobs if our friendly immigrants didn’t then? Destiny and her mates off the estate? no they have to look after Britney Whitney and Tyrone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave2980 Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 17 minutes ago, fatolive said: Refugee convention was1951 Then our own laws are in contravention of it. As I said, (and I've posted about it a couple of times before today) the gov.uk website states what asylum seekers need to do in order to claim asylum and previously it stated that you were not allowed to pass through a safe 3rd country and that you could only claim asylum at a UK border. The rules were changed on 28th June 2022 when the new Nationality and Borders Act came in to force. They now state that your claim "might not" be accepted. Feel free to check gov.uk if you don't believe me! https://www.rescue.org/uk/article/what-uk-nationality-and-borders-act-and-what-does-it-mean-refugees-uk#:~:text=The UK Parliament recently passed,asylum seekers in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 10 minutes ago, royal white said: Well we’ve already established that some are working for a lot less delivering sausages and driving Ubers. It sounds like your problem is closer to home? Ah the old foreigners taking our jobs bollocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 9 minutes ago, gonzo said: Ah the old foreigners taking our jobs bollocks Totally the opposite 🤦🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter fatolive Posted October 27, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted October 27, 2022 10 minutes ago, dave2980 said: Then our own laws are in contravention of it. As I said, (and I've posted about it a couple of times before today) the gov.uk website states what asylum seekers need to do in order to claim asylum and previously it stated that you were not allowed to pass through a safe 3rd country and that you could only claim asylum at a UK border. The rules were changed on 28th June 2022 when the new Nationality and Borders Act came in to force. They now state that your claim "might not" be accepted. Feel free to check gov.uk if you don't believe me! https://www.rescue.org/uk/article/what-uk-nationality-and-borders-act-and-what-does-it-mean-refugees-uk#:~:text=The UK Parliament recently passed,asylum seekers in the UK. I believe you. But our laws are not in contravention of it yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobyBrno Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Even the Guradian can see the seriousness of the Albanion illegal immigrants. If people take off their Brexit/xenophobic goggles they will see there’s a problem. https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/aug/25/rise-in-albanian-asylum-seekers-may-be-down-to-criminal-gangs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted October 27, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted October 27, 2022 40 minutes ago, royal white said: Well we’ve already established that some are working for a lot less delivering sausages and driving Ubers. It sounds like your problem is closer to home? My problem is skilled workers. They don’t want to be here any more. I’ve explained it all once I’m not doing it again. If you know where all the English lads are that are just as good and will graft the same then I am all ears, trust me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 2 hours ago, royal white said: Those that are jumping off dinghy’s and are bailing out of trucks before blending into society are ilegal. There’s 100s of thousands of illegals here in the U.K. But as long as your cars clean who gives a fuck Exactly. I don't know why people get their knickers in a twist so much about it to be honest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Spider said: My problem is skilled workers. They don’t want to be here any more. I’ve explained it all once I’m not doing it again. If you know where all the English lads are that are just as good and will graft the same then I am all ears, trust me. I just find it hard to believe these skilled workers want to go back to these awful places they’ve come from when being paid a decent wage. Maybe the problem is the employer not the employee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 1 hour ago, dave2980 said: It was from gov.uk but as I say above its been updated fairly recently It's not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 1 hour ago, dave2980 said: Legally, you have to claim asylum in the first safe country you arrive in therefore unless you're jumping on a plane or a ferry that is travelling direct to the UK you are arriving illegally Not true, never has been Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 27, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted October 27, 2022 Skilled workers Are you suggesting that loads of them have disappeared from the country, and if so where to? Unless of course fruit picking is now labelled as skilled. The main issue here with skilled individuals is the great disconnect between the academic needs and the vocational needs. That needs addressing urgently, and hopefully the new regime will continue with Boris' desire for more vocational education routes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobyBrno Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, Spider said: My problem is skilled workers. They don’t want to be here any more. I’ve explained it all once I’m not doing it again. If you know where all the English lads are that are just as good and will graft the same then I am all ears, trust me. It maybe your problem but not a problem nationwide. More skilled workers are now coming into the U.K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 I'm doing a show at the moment about an illegal Albanian refugee who came over as a boy. Might be worthwhile some on here sitting down and having a chat with the fella. Oh and he's a writer and director now, not in a criminal gang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Oh and it's at Oldham Collie next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said: I'm doing a show at the moment about an illegal Albanian refugee who came over as a boy. Might be worthwhile some on here sitting down and having a chat with the fella. Oh and he's a writer and director now, not in a criminal gang. How do you know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Just now, royal white said: How do you know? 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said: I'm doing a show at the moment about an illegal Albanian refugee who came over as a boy. Might be worthwhile some on here sitting down and having a chat with the fella. Oh and he's a writer and director now, not in a criminal gang. Has he raped any of our white women? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said: I'm doing a show at the moment about an illegal Albanian refugee who came over as a boy. Might be worthwhile some on here sitting down and having a chat with the fella. Oh and he's a writer and director now, not in a criminal gang. Why would we need to watch it? Good luck to the lad, but it wouldn’t change my opinion 1 jot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Not in Crawley Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Just now, royal white said: How do you know? Oooh you're right, he might be. Good thinking RW, best keep my eye on him. Tricky buggers these uncover Albanian gangs, they take any guise - takeaway owner, car washer, award winning theatre writer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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