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[Mounts Kipper]

24 minutes ago, DazBob said:

When our players were doing it last season, why do you think they were doing it?

Do you think it was for George Floyd, in support of the Black Lives Matter movement ... or as a show against racism?

It started in response to Floyd then when it was clearly seen to be a stupid action and BLM were outed as a dangerous and anarchist organisation they decided to save clueless and easily manipulated players from embarrassment and make it an anti racist protest rather than a Floyd BLM matter. Only the gullible fell for it and some like london white are still pissing  against the wind trying to justify it.

Edited October 2, 2023 by Mounts Kipper

[royal white]

36 minutes ago, DazBob said:

When our players were doing it last season, why do you think they were doing it?

Do you think it was for George Floyd, in support of the Black Lives Matter movement ... or as a show against racism?

We aren’t talking about last season. 

[DazBob]

5 minutes ago, royal white said:

We aren’t talking about last season. 

I am now. 

Care to answer the question?

[royal white]

8 minutes ago, DazBob said:

I am now. 

Care to answer the question?

Whataboutery? 😂

[London Wanderer]

56 minutes ago, royal white said:

You started to call mounts a tit because he said the knee was taken up because of GF. 
 

Literally a few posts later you never denied GF role in this. 
 

You’ve also said it was started by the NFL but can be seen before this (whatever the fuck that means) then brought Trump into it.

 

Surely you can’t get this pissed so soon after school? Are you ok? 

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You can't beat a RW summary of events from his perspective. You sure it's me who needs to read??? I called Mounts a tit because he brought the whole argument back up via some nutjob from the Reclaim Party. I then laughed at the argument that nobody even considered taking the knee in sport pre GFs murder (read the replies lad) 👍

There's a whole fckn history of black players taking the knee in sport 🤣 So yes, it was daft for Mounts (or anyone) to say it was soley in solidarity with GF with no wider context or other historical influences. 

Here's some light reading for you What is the history of taking the knee? Origins of the anti-racism gesture – and why England players do it (inews.co.uk)

And yes, black sports men and women protesting goes back further. Did you not know that? Do you not remember when Trump and half of the NFL had a big row? 

You'll be telling me all this is irrelevant now, because football and NFL aren't the same so there is no link 😁 There's no wider context in your mind mate, no understanding of what a catalyst is. You're a proper simpleton x

[London Wanderer]

45 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

It started in response to Floyd then when it was clearly seen to be a stupid action and BLM were outed as a dangerous and anarchist organisation they decided to save clueless and easily manipulated players from embarrassment and make it an anti racist protest rather than a Floyd BLM matter. Only the gullible fell for it and some like london white are still pissing  against the wind trying to justify it.

Ahhhhhhhh of course. Because anybody who had an issue with the murder of GF and wanted things to change was also blindly supporting BLM? Is that your actual argument here? 

[royal white]

7 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

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You can't beat a RW summary of events from his perspective. You sure it's me who needs to read??? I called Mounts a tit because he brought the whole argument back up via some nutjob from the Reclaim Party. I then laughed at the argument that nobody even considered taking the knee in sport pre GFs murder (read the replies lad) 👍

There's a whole fckn history of black players taking the knee in sport 🤣 So yes, it was daft for Mounts (or anyone) to say it was soley in solidarity with GF with no wider context or other historical influences. 

Here's some light reading for you What is the history of taking the knee? Origins of the anti-racism gesture – and why England players do it (inews.co.uk)

And yes, black sports men and women protesting goes back further. Did you not know that? Do you not remember when Trump and half of the NFL had a big row? 

You'll be telling me all this is irrelevant now, because football and NFL aren't the same so there is no link 😁 There's no wider context in your mind mate, no understanding of what a catalyst is. You're a proper simpleton x

 

You have even highlighted it. Mounts, unless I’m wrong is blatantly talking about players over here as that’s what’s the discussion is about.

Who are these players over here who considered taking the knee pre GF. Name me 5? Because this is what you’re claiming. 
 

You’re having a mare here gump 😂
 

 

[Mounts Kipper]

11 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Ahhhhhhhh of course. Because anybody who had an issue with the murder of GF and wanted things to change was also blindly supporting BLM? Is that your actual argument here? 

Nope my point was that it started because Floyd was killed by cops and wasn’t at first a gesture against racism. Find it strange I have to keep pointing this out repeatedly to you. 

Edited October 2, 2023 by Mounts Kipper

[London Wanderer]

2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Nope my point was that it started because Floyd was killed by cops and wasn’t at first a gesture against racism. 

That wasn't your point 😂 Your point was that it was nonsense and achieved fuck all. Then you started rabbiting on about GF. 

We all know GFs murder was catalyst... it's bonkers you think people don't. It's like your arguing with your own head mate. 

[Mounts Kipper]

7 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

That wasn't your point 😂 Your point was that it was nonsense and achieved fuck all. Then you started rabbiting on about GF. 

We all know GFs murder was catalyst... it's bonkers you think people don't. It's like your arguing with your own head mate. 

Ahh we’ve got there in the end… you agree it started as a gesture to support Floyd, a violent criminal, druggie and thief. 

Edited October 2, 2023 by Mounts Kipper

[Spider]

It’s all a bit scouse, this

[London Wanderer]

5 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Ahh we’ve got there in the end… you agree it was a gesture to support Floyd, a violent criminal, druggie and thief. 

Yes mate... Thanks for educating me. I apologise for getting in such a muddle. It was all a conspiracy to support a black guy on meth. No historical context, no wider social issues of racism or police brutality. 

Edited October 2, 2023 by London Wanderer

[London Wanderer]

16 minutes ago, royal white said:

 

You have even highlighted it. Mounts, unless I’m wrong is blatantly talking about players over here as that’s what’s the discussion is about.

Who are these players over here who considered taking the knee pre GF. Name me 5? Because this is what you’re claiming. 
 

You’re having a mare here gump 😂
 

 

Here's a whole fckn team of footballers showing their support for the NFL campaign
German soccer players ‘take a knee’ in solidarity with NFL players - National | Globalnews.ca

Clearly there was a debate happening and players were aware of the issue. 

Who's having a mare ? 🤣

Do you really think players were indifferent to the issue pre GF ? You're not that narrow minded no? You'll be telling me it's irrelevant next because the players play in Germany 🤣 That nobody over here knew or though anything right?

[royal white]

7 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Here's a whole fckn team of footballers showing their support for the NFL campaign
German soccer players ‘take a knee’ in solidarity with NFL players - National | Globalnews.ca

Clearly there was a debate happening and players were aware of the issue. 

Who's having a mare ? 🤣

Do you really think players were indifferent to the issue pre GF ? You're not that narrow minded no? You'll be telling me it's irrelevant next because the players play in Germany 🤣 That nobody over here knew or thought anything right?

“Mounts is blatantly talking about players over here”

 

Posts a link to Berlin.😂😂😂😂 Please tell me you don’t teach geography 

[London Wanderer]

2 minutes ago, royal white said:

“Mounts is blatantly talking about players over here”

 

Posts a link to Berlin.😂😂😂😂 Please tell me you don’t teach geography 

Right on cue tyring to crawl out of that one 😂😂🤣

You quoting yourself now pal? 

Some of those players played in English football. English footballers were talking about it at the time as well.  

Are you honestly arguing that nobody over here supported the NFL protest 4 years before GFs murder? Because even by your standards that would be some ignorance. 
 

[Zico]

30 minutes ago, Spider said:

It’s all a bit scouse, this

At least we're talking about it, result 

[royal white]

2 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Right on cue tyring to crawl out of that one 😂😂🤣

You quoting yourself now pal? 

Some of those players played in English football. English footballers were talking about it at the time as well.  

Are you honestly arguing that nobody over here supported the NFL protest 4 years before GFs murder? Because even by your standards that would be some ignorance. 
 

yes I’m quoting myself just to remind you what we country we are talking about. 
 

 

You’ve picked one team out of thousands who did anything which was in Germany, not fkin England were we are talking about. And if I was a Berlin fan I’d be asking why the fuck are we getting involved in Americas problems. All very weird. 
 

You need an early night petal x

[London Wanderer]

2 minutes ago, royal white said:

yes I’m quoting myself just to remind you what we country we are talking about. 
 

 

You’ve picked one team out of thousands who did anything which was in Germany, not fkin England were we are talking about. And if I was a Berlin fan I’d be asking why the fuck are we getting involved in Americas problems. All very weird. 
 

You need an early night petal x

Because racism only exists in America 🤣🤣😂Your finest moment there. 

gets even better the more you crawl. 

No English teams don't see the news.... they're too busy discussing Fifa ratings. In fact when GF was murdered it's pretty much a guarantee that was the first time they'd even discussed police brutality and wider racism issues. Simples. 

[royal white]

7 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Because racism only exists in America 🤣🤣😂Your finest moment there. 

gets even better the more you crawl. 

No English teams don't see the news.... they're too busy discussing Fifa ratings. In fact when GF was murdered it's pretty much a guarantee that was the first time they'd even discussed police brutality and wider racism issues. Simples. 

Did you read your link? 
 

The action was intended to show solidarity with NFL players who have been protesting police treatment of blacks and social injustice in the U.S. by kneeling, sitting or locking arms through the anthem before games.

 

You even said they were supporting NFL teams 😂😂😂 

 

Dime bar 

 

Edited October 2, 2023 by royal white

[London Wanderer]

Just now, royal white said:

Did you read your link? 
 

The action was intended to show solidarity with NFL players who have been protesting police treatment of blacks and social injustice in the U.S. by kneeling, sitting or locking arms through the anthem before games.

 

Ahhhhh sorry, yes that proves it then 👍 there's your solid evidence 🤣

It was an issue only for the U.S. It didn't grow into anything else after GFs murder brought these issues back into the mainstream. No country is influenced by anything that happens abroad. Only things that happen in one country effect that country and we shouldn't concern ourselves with anything overseas. Ethnic minorities don't suffer racist abuse in sport and outside of sport over here. They never have. They just made it all up because they were scared people thought they were BLM loving communists. 

The irony of a lad who joins the fckn military saying that other people shouldn't concern themselves with another countries problem 😂

[royal white]

1 minute ago, London Wanderer said:

Ahhhhh sorry, yes that proves it then 👍 there's your solid evidence 🤣

It was an issue only for the U.S. It didn't grow into anything else after GFs murder brought these issues back into the mainstream. No country is influenced by anything that happens abroad. Only things that happen in one country effect that country and we shouldn't concern ourselves with anything overseas. Ethnic minorities don't suffer racist abuse in sport and outside of sport over here. They never have. They just made it all up because they were scared people thought they were BLM loving communists. 

The irony of a lad who joins the fckn military saying that other people shouldn't concern themselves with another countries problem 😂

Egg fucking zackerly it’s called using my experience. Something you clearly lack. 
 

So let’s get it right they showed solidarity with yanks, mainly NFL teams because of something that’s happening in their country (Germany) you’re digging some hole here. Fantastic to Watch. How long did this movement last and did anybody else join it from the German league. 

[London Wanderer]

3 minutes ago, royal white said:

Egg fucking zackerly it’s called using my experience. Something you clearly lack. 
 

So let’s get it right they showed solidarity with yanks, mainly NFL teams because of something that’s happening in their country (Germany) you’re digging some hole here. Fantastic to Watch. How long did this movement last and did anybody else join it from the German league. 

You've reached whole new levels of whatboutery here. 🤣
 

It's really not that hard to grasp. The debate and issues were around long before GF was murdered and BLM hijacked the cause. You really think players had no idea about the NFL movement or experiences of racism themselves ? You've dodged the question twice now love. x 

[Casino]

6 hours ago, Winchester White said:

Hardly surprising given the spiralling costs.

Im sure i heard earlier there are 120 people in HS2s PR dept

Who the fuck signs off on this shit?

[Mounts Kipper]

4 minutes ago, Casino said:

Im sure i heard earlier there are 120 people in HS2s PR dept

Who the fuck signs off on this shit?

Wasn’t it Boris? Complete vanity project, none of it should ever have been signed off. Anyhow it’ll decimate what’s left of the red wall that had turned blue. 

Edited October 2, 2023 by Mounts Kipper

[fatolive]

Just now, Casino said:

Im sure i heard earlier there are 120 people in HS2s PR dept

I heard that on the radio this morning too , when Jeremy Hunt was being interviewed .