Politics

[Spider]

6 minutes ago, frank_spencer said:

It ended up as a disappointing wank of lost contracts?

Winners and losers

 

[Cheese]

 

[Zico]

On 04/10/2023 at 16:47, Winchester White said:

What the fuck is she on about!? Cringe 😬

 

The rejoin campaign will probably use that

[Casino]

Sorry, just wanted to post the vid

And still theres folk defending em

[Wanderlust]

 

[Spider]

8 hours ago, Casino said:

Sorry, just wanted to post the vid

And still theres folk defending em

Stockholm Syndrome. Has to be.

”I won’t change my mind because I’ve bloody well made my mind up”

cult behaviour 

[Winchester White]

SNP losing their grip on the Scottish heartlands or just a blip in one bi-election?

[Not in Crawley]

15 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

SNP losing their grip on the Scottish heartlands or just a blip in one bi-election?

Nice news, but Labour aren't going back to the 40-odd seats there. The Scottish leader spoke at our CCP meeting a few months ago, with a fair wind we are targeting mid-20s. Mainly in the central belt. Be nice to get more.

But as John Curtice pointed out on Today this monring in 97 Labour took 47 seats and won a landslide, in 92 took about the same amount and lost. So its not as defining as people make out, Labour still have a huge uphill struggle because they can't get into power without doing three things;

- Hold onto all the seats they have

- Gaining back the ones they lost in the North specifically

-This is the big one, taking harder to win seats in the South East

Still, every seat they can pick up in Scotland means one less of the hard south east seats to win, but you can't get a majority without them.

The reason I'm be so cautious is because the swing Labour have to make is huge, and that puts the fear of god into me, and this doesn't feel like a 1997 moment yet.

Edited October 6, 2023 by Not in Crawley

[Spider]

 

[globaldiver]

£111m to look after kids teeth at schools; a good investment?

[Spider]

8 minutes ago, globaldiver said:

£111m to look after kids teeth at schools; a good investment?

No

Itll kill the dental industry if everyone has great teeth.

Spend the money on free lollipops and give our beleaguered dentists a boost I say.

[Winchester White]

I would say so yes. Prevention is always cheaper than cure.

Despite stupid yanks taking the piss out of our teeth, our gnashers are actually fairly good in comparison health wise when compared to most other countries.

A healthy population is a productive population. 

[BobyBrno]

36 minutes ago, globaldiver said:

£111m to look after kids teeth at schools; a good investment?

Or a public information film on the BBC for parents to teach their kids how to clean their teeth. 
Scrap that. No one watches the BBC anymore. 
I know this is a proposed Labour policy. I doubt any other major country has to suggest such things.

[Spider]

Whilst we’re talking about how good the Tories are, let’s have a government debt graph

 

[BobyBrno]

31 minutes ago, Spider said:

Whilst we’re talking about how good the Tories are, let’s have a government debt graph

 

Yeah. I love graphs.

 

[Sweep]

So because other countries have more debt, it's OK. 👍

[Spider]

13 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Yeah. I love graphs.

 

But but but the Tories are the party known for sound fiscal management

Even Covid is a drop in that ocean of shit they’ve got us into.

The one thing they used to be known for, and even that’s gone up in smoke.

Theyve nothing left.

[royal white]

8 minutes ago, Sweep said:

So because other countries have more debt, it's OK. 👍

Do you expect countries to have no debt? 

[Sweep]

Just now, royal white said:

Do you expect countries to have no debt? 

I'm not sure I said that

[Spider]

1 minute ago, royal white said:

Do you expect countries to have no debt? 

But here, in Great Britain, we’ve had 12 years of sound fiscal management by the Tories, the party of sound money management.

Whats gone wrong?

[royal white]

2 minutes ago, Sweep said:

I'm not sure I said that

So what’s your point? 

[Sweep]

1 minute ago, royal white said:

So what’s your point? 

For what it's worth, my point is that Spider points out the UK debt has increased, then Boby points out that other countries have higher levels of debt per GDP than we have

I'm not sure what each has to do with the other. 

 

[Spider]

The Tory chancellor Jeremy Hunt wrote these very words recently - 

“Conservatives believe in fiscal responsibility because we don't believe you can borrow your way to prosperity”

this flies, somewhat, in the face of the figures I posted earlier.

The Tories have overseen all that borrowing. Not Labour. Not Emperor Naruhito, not ze Germans, The Tories have.

So we can comfortably say they are shit at managing an economy. They have very little left to boast about.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/09/02/the-conservative-party-champion-fiscal-responsibility/

Edited October 6, 2023 by Spider

[MickyD]

1 hour ago, royal white said:

Do you expect countries to have no debt? 

Which raises the age-old question; if most countries have large amounts of debt, who the hell are they in debt to?

[Farrelli]

1 hour ago, Sweep said:

For what it's worth, my point is that Spider points out the UK debt has increased, then Boby points out that other countries have higher levels of debt per GDP than we have

I'm not sure what each has to do with the other. 

 

But Japan has got a fast functioning train system throughout their country. What have we got to show for our high debt and taxes? More shit in the rivers and Tory donors getting richer.