Politics

[little whitt]

3Rd time he has been a MP

in a Different place Every time 

can you just Rock up anywhere and say i want to be your MP

[MickyD]

Just now, little whitt said:

3Rd time he has been a MP

in a Different place Every time 

can you just Rock up anywhere and say i want to be your MP

Pretty much. 
Very clever, given the high Asian population, to go in on a Peace in Gaza platform. That’ll get the Muslims into the polling booths and many of the others shrugging their shoulders asking, “What’s that got to do with Rochdale?” But not realising that not voting against him by not turning up is exactly how he’s got in.

Time we took up the Aussie system and make voting mandatory.

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

37 minutes ago, MickyD said:

Time we took up the Aussie system and make voting mandatory.

Nah

[DirtySanchez]

2 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Nah

Me neither

If all the candidates are shit, you're voting for one that's least shit which seems a waste of a vote 

[Cheese]

3 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said:

Me neither

If all the candidates are shit, you're voting for one that's least shit which seems a waste of a vote 

You can spoil your ballot, which sends a better message than simply not voting.

Edited March 1, 2024 by Cheese

[DirtySanchez]

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

You can just spoil your ballot.

Which defeats the object of making it mandatory to vote because it achieved the same thing as not turning up

[Cheese]

2 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said:

Which defeats the object of making it mandatory to vote because it achieved the same thing as not turning up

It sends a message. If you simply don't vote, it could just be that you're not politically engaged. Spoiling your ballot is an expression of disapproval.

[DirtySanchez]

6 minutes ago, Cheese said:

It sends a message. If you simply don't vote, it could just be that you're not politically engaged. Spoiling your ballot is an expression of disapproval.

Not necessarily

It doesn't differentiate between disapproval or just not interested for whatever reason 

Same as low turnouts don't differentiate between the two 

[Cheese]

3 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said:

Not necessarily

It doesn't differentiate between disapproval or just not interested for whatever reason 

Same as low turnouts don't differentiate between the two 

It does if you write "All the candidates are bastards", or whatever it is you want to express.

[BobyBrno]

Did someone say they hadn’t seen a Palestinian flag in real life? Expect to see many more come the election. Thought it may be about the economy. I may be wrong. Galloway said his party will stand in Bolton. Lovely.

#flagshagger

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

25 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said:

Me neither

If all the candidates are shit, you're voting for one that's least shit which seems a waste of a vote 

It's better for every vote - including spoiled ballots - to be meaningful rather than enforced 

And as you point out, we get a better understanding of the proportion of the electorate that are politically disengaged and the proportion that actively disapprove of all candidates

[DirtySanchez]

Just now, Cheese said:

It does if you write "All the candidates are bastards", or whatever it is you want to express.

Not really as it will get chucked in the bin as a spoilt vote

A spoil vote is a spoilt vote regardless of whether you dra cock and balls on it or write what you put 

Galloway got in on a turnout out of 39.7%. Do you think if voting was compulsory he would care if it was result of 60.3% of votes being spoilt? 

[little whitt]

30 minutes ago, Cheese said:

You can spoil your ballot, which sends a better message than simply not voting.

What do you put on 

ALL ARE CUNTS 

[Cheese]

6 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said:

Not really as it will get chucked in the bin as a spoilt vote

A spoil vote is a spoilt vote regardless of whether you dra cock and balls on it or write what you put 

Galloway got in on a turnout out of 39.7%. Do you think if voting was compulsory he would care if it was result of 60.3% of votes being spoilt? 

I don't give a fuck what Galloway would think. But I think it would be a far more meaningful message if 60.3% of ballots were spoiled, rather than 60.3% just didn't bother voting.

Edited March 1, 2024 by Cheese

[Traf]

10 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Did someone say they hadn’t seen a Palestinian flag in real life? 

There's at least two in my house

[Ani]

I have always voted in every election since I was old enough.

I have posted before In the European elections I never used to know who to vote for so would just write a swear word using every box on the ballot.

Kids still mention that I was very proud with my effort of PISSFLAPS 

[BobyBrno]

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/24155586.bolton-st-peters-house-office-building-target-vandalism/
 

 

[DirtySanchez]

Just now, Cheese said:

I don't give a fuck what Galloway would think. But I think it would be a far more meaningful message if 60.3% of ballots were spoiled, rather than 60.3% just didn't bother voting.

Why? If it's cumpolsory to vote then a spoiled ballot doesn't indicate the reason for it

Under the current system if you're going out of your way to vote then spoil the ballot then your sending a message when they count up the number of people who did so 

Then you can take a more estimated guess of people who can't be arsed because they've been at work all day, EastEnders is on and it's raining or just not interested

[mickbrown]

I’d do away with postal ballots. 
 

Unless you’re 80 plus or have no legs. 

[Cheese]

28 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said:

Why? If it's cumpolsory to vote then a spoiled ballot doesn't indicate the reason for it

Under the current system if you're going out of your way to vote then spoil the ballot then your sending a message when they count up the number of people who did so 

Then you can take a more estimated guess of people who can't be arsed because they've been at work all day, EastEnders is on and it's raining or just not interested

Fair point. It's not happening here any time soon anyway.

[Winchester White]

39 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

I’d do away with postal ballots. 
 

Unless you’re 80 plus or have no legs. 

Fuck off! I love postal voting as I can't be arsed going to the local community centre.

That said, if they got rid I would still go and vote.

[DirtySanchez]

17 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Fair point. It's not happening here any time soon anyway.

I agree it's not happening anytime soon but would prefer to try other routes to encourage a higher turnout

Maybe weekend voting? In 2019 when it was in December on a Thursday, that probably put a fair few off 

[MickyD]

1 hour ago, DirtySanchez said:

Which defeats the object of making it mandatory to vote because it achieved the same thing as not turning up

It really doesn’t. How do you differentiate between those who couldn’t be arsed and those who didn’t vote as a protest. At least writing “None of the above are fit to represent me!” would send a message.

[DirtySanchez]

2 minutes ago, MickyD said:

It really doesn’t. How do you differentiate between those who couldn’t be arsed and those who didn’t vote as a protest. At least writing “None of the above are fit to represent me!” would send a message.

It wouldn't as they just get lobbed in as spoilt votes. They don't compile a list of why a vote was spoilt so writing that wouldn't send a message anymore than just ticking all the boxes

If you're forcing people to vote and they are just not interested in politics for whatever reason, then spoiling the vote won't give an indication as to whether they think politicians are useless or it's something they're not interested in

[mickbrown]

47 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

Fuck off! I love postal voting as I can't be arsed going to the local community centre.

That said, if they got rid I would still go and vote.

My postbox is further away than the polling station.