Politics

[kent_white]

While we're on the subject of GG. 

I saw in his post election interview with Sky News that his proposed solution to the Israel/Palestine problems is the creation of one state, incorporating all the existing territories where all religions and ethnicities live side by side and are given equal rights and responsibilities. 

Huge ask at the moment clearly - but what do we think about the idea in principle? 

 

[Zico]

13 minutes ago, kent_white said:

While we're on the subject of GG. 

I saw in his post election interview with Sky News that his proposed solution to the Israel/Palestine problems is the creation of one state, incorporating all the existing territories where all religions and ethnicities live side by side and are given equal rights and responsibilities. 

Huge ask at the moment clearly - but what do we think about the idea in principle? 

 

Sounds radical, it sounds great, but you need to show me some evidence it's worked elsewhere first 

[kent_white]

12 minutes ago, Zico said:

Sounds radical, it sounds great, but you need to show me some evidence it's worked elsewhere first 

He made the comparison with South Africa which I don't think works as an analogy (although I can see what he's driving at). 

[Casino]

38 minutes ago, kent_white said:

 

Huge ask at the moment clearly - but what do we think about the idea in principle? 

 

sounds fantastic

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

The idea behind the creation of Israel was that it give Jews a safe haven from persecution

For that reason alone, I couldn't see a viable single state solution

But also it wouldn't be viable whilst the Palestinian militia groups and the rabid antisemitism in that part of the world exists

Perhaps in a few hundred years' time if the planet's still hospitable by then

[Casino]

4 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

The idea behind the creation of Israel was that it give Jews a safe haven from persecution

For that reason alone, I couldn't see a viable single state solution

But also it wouldn't be viable whilst the Palestinian militia groups and the rabid antisemitism in that part of the world exists

Perhaps in a few hundred years' time if the planet's still hospitable by then

i notice no mention of some of the shit that israel and its state run terror group get up to

thats another reason it wouldnt work

[Zico]

40 minutes ago, kent_white said:

He made the comparison with South Africa which I don't think works as an analogy (although I can see what he's driving at). 

my joky point was are there any countries where all religions and ethnicities live side by side and are given equal rights and responsibilities?

does such a place really exist?

[kent_white]

3 minutes ago, Zico said:

my joky point was are there any countries where all religions and ethnicities live side by side and are given equal rights and responsibilities?

does such a place really exist?

There's always going to be tensions I suppose. Whenever there's a mix of different types of people living in the same place. Northern Ireland might be a good example of one that works in recent memory, but I doubt the divisions are on the same scale. Especially now! 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

50 minutes ago, Casino said:

i notice no mention of some of the shit that israel and its state run terror group get up to

thats another reason it wouldnt work

That as well but I was thinking of the biggest obstacles on each side

[Ani]

3 hours ago, kent_white said:

While we're on the subject of GG. 

I saw in his post election interview with Sky News that his proposed solution to the Israel/Palestine problems is the creation of one state, incorporating all the existing territories where all religions and ethnicities live side by side and are given equal rights and responsibilities. 

Huge ask at the moment clearly - but what do we think about the idea in principle? 

 

It is like saying we are going to have everybody's favourite flavour of ice cream available all the time in unlimited supply. Probably for free, sounds like a good idea but just won't happen. 

[Spider]

Northern Ireland has been a great success.

The worst that happens now is English lads piling up to Glasgow singing songs about 400 year old battles.

Other than that, it’s hardly a warzone.

[Not in Crawley]

On 02/03/2024 at 09:37, BobyBrno said:

As I said last night, Bolton South has and probably always will be, Labour.👍

Being from North Bolton, I wouldnt know ☹️

[bolty58]

16 hours ago, kent_white said:

While we're on the subject of GG. 

I saw in his post election interview with Sky News that his proposed solution to the Israel/Palestine problems is the creation of one state, incorporating all the existing territories where all religions and ethnicities live side by side and are given equal rights and responsibilities. 

Huge ask at the moment clearly - but what do we think about the idea in principle? 

 

Cloud cuckoo land. Thousands of years of enmity and they will live together in perfect harmony?

Maybe this could be the national anthem?

 

[Not in Crawley]

35 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

Cloud cuckoo land. Thousands of years of enmity and they will live together in perfect harmony?

Maybe this could be the national anthem?

 

OK Alan 🤣

What a constant basic idiot he is.

Yer big racist.

Mind you, I'm not sure irony is the fat Australians thing. 

[crawshawbooth]

It would be nice to get over the religions thing,

These people are just stuck in centuries old beliefs , praying to the sky

And then straight to a moblle phone screen the second they are done

Why did the almighty power not give us phones from day one , they might have lost interest in praying by now !

[Not in Crawley]

The brassneck of Hunt now to pat himself on the back for the growing creative industries when they had slashed and cut and run culture war on us all for the past 13 years.

Just fuck off, you won't be buying us that way.

[Mounts Kipper]

On 04/03/2024 at 09:01, kent_white said:

While we're on the subject of GG. 

I saw in his post election interview with Sky News that his proposed solution to the Israel/Palestine problems is the creation of one state, incorporating all the existing territories where all religions and ethnicities live side by side and are given equal rights and responsibilities. 

Huge ask at the moment clearly - but what do we think about the idea in principle? 

 

What does he suggest they do with Hamas to facilitate that possibility, given that Hamas stated policy is to wipe out all Jews and Israel.     

[Zulu]

38 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

The brassneck of Hunt now to pat himself on the back for the growing creative industries when they had slashed and cut and run culture war on us all for the past 13 years.

Just fuck off, you won't be buying us that way.

Us? 🤣

[little whitt]

Are the WW £150 club 

any better Off 

[Not in Crawley]

9 minutes ago, Zulu said:

Us? 🤣

Yes, those who work in the creative industries.

Honestly, its not that difficult.

[little whitt]

Starmer  

is Giving it to them now

About time he gets stuck in 

[Not in Crawley]

Starmer doing a second half at Barnsley at the moment. 

[Zulu]

7 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Yes, those who work in the creative industries.

Honestly, its not that difficult.

What, people like me?

[Not in Crawley]

3 minutes ago, Zulu said:

What, people like me?

Hey if work in the CI and have swallowed the crap and funding cuts over the last 13 years AND still think this is a long term plan that's been annouced today then good for you, but you'd be very much in the minority.

 

[Zulu]

Just now, Not in Crawley said:

Hey if work in the CI and have swallowed the crap and funding cuts over the last 13 years AND still think this is a long term plan that's been annouced today then good for you, but you'd be very much in the minority.

 

So, not really ’us’ then? You mean ’you’ and others who share your opinions.  I would agree that you share the majority view, but that’s not what you said. 
 

Honestly, it’s not that difficult.