Politics

[royal white]

1 hour ago, Cheese said:

I would also do exactly what the Government is doing, and I would be patient because it's a massive issue that has building for years and will take time to resolve. What I wouldn't do is feel empathy for thicko rioters.

😂😂🤦🏻

[Cheese]

Exactly.

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 hours ago, gonzo said:

Where have I legitimised their behaviour?

Explaining the root cause of a situation isn't legitimising something.

 

You dislike foreigners you do.

Racist too no doubt.

In fact we're all racist.

"Too much migration"- racist.

"Inherent incompatibilities within certain communities, in particular with regards to sexual exploitation"- racist. 

"Gyppos are a bunch of dirty, thieving gits"- racist.

"Buy British"- can't promote that, it's racist.

[Cheese]

10 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

You dislike foreigners you do.

Racist too no doubt.

In fact we're all racist.

"Too much migration"- racist.

"Inherent incompatibilities within certain communities, in particular with regards to sexual exploitation"- racist. 

"Gyppos are a bunch of dirty, thieving gits"- racist.

"Buy British"- can't promote that, it's racist.

You've invented all those quotes so you can feel like a victim.

[London Wanderer]

27 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

You dislike foreigners you do.

Racist too no doubt.

In fact we're all racist.

"Too much migration"- racist.

"Inherent incompatibilities within certain communities, in particular with regards to sexual exploitation"- racist. 

"Gyppos are a bunch of dirty, thieving gits"- racist.

"Buy British"- can't promote that, it's racist.

What the hell is this 🤣

[Cheese]

21 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

What the hell is this 🤣

A Reform voters' fantasies.

[Zico]

21 hours ago, gonzo said:

 

 

 

Are Brexit Benefits on the menu?

[Winchester White]

Just now, Zico said:

Are Brexit Benefits on the menu?

What is more silly is the owner of this very pub has admitted that he wouldn't have voted for Brexit now. Yet he still buys the snake oil, some just fall for it every time.

[Zico]

3 hours ago, Ani said:

Without knowing the specific details in Ireland hard to say but the narrative is pretty clear there is a feeling that immigration is running out of control and people are coming to this country and playing the game which is costing £bns. Alongside this we are seeing a Labour Govt cutting Pensioners money and introducing a welfare bill that if implanted as badly as the winter fuel debacle will seem some people will real needs fucked over.

The immigrants are not evenly spread across the country so unless you live in an area where they are housed pretty impossible to understand the anger and frustration. But you try and do that as Gonzo suggests and it equates to condoning the behaviour ? Does it fuck. 
 

The mindless thuggery is inexcusable as it was after Southport but if you can point to any example in any sphere where focussing on symptoms rather than causes has solved anything you may have a valid point. The rhetoric of the extremists only works when it also taps into concerns of the wider population. Is there anyone in the country that things having a nearly 2 year backlog in processing claims for refugees is not an issue to address ? That the £bns being spent housing them is not an issue ? 
 

We either have a difficult conversation and drive actions to tackle the beast or we just hope it goes quietly to sleep. 

The conversation is only difficult when you have folk like cheese shouting racist from the sidelines

[Cheese]

4 minutes ago, Zico said:

The conversation is only difficult when you have folk like cheese shouting racist from the sidelines

Truth hurts.

[Zico]

Just now, Cheese said:

Truth hurts.

Sorry, I didn't mean to hurt you

[Cheese]

Just now, Zico said:

Sorry, I didn't mean to hurt you

Some people are just racists. What's the point in fannying around and making excuses for them?

[Winchester White]

2 minutes ago, Zico said:

The conversation is only difficult when you have folk like cheese shouting racist from the sidelines

I think Cheese makes some good points from time to time but his contrary opinion to everything remotely removed from his own gets tiresome.

A bit like how if you agree with one given point RW often immediately thinks you must therefore disagree with the opposite point and vice versa. Then a pointless one-upmanship argument follows, usually between Cheese and RW with others (I am guilty also) chipping in.

There is zero leeway or nuance with either of them at times.

[Cheese]

6 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

I think Cheese makes some good points from time to time but his contrary opinion to everything remotely removed from his own gets tiresome.

A bit like how if you agree with one given point RW often immediately thinks you must therefore disagree with the opposite point and vice versa. Then a pointless one-upmanship argument follows, usually between Cheese and RW with others (I am guilty also) chipping in.

There is zero leeway or nuance with either of them at times.

I haven't replied to RW for at least 6 months. 🤷‍♂️ I'm all for nuance, just not when it's making excuses for thicko racist rioters.

[Ani]

32 minutes ago, Zico said:

Are Brexit Benefits on the menu?

Waiting for them to be delivered

[Winchester White]

2 minutes ago, Cheese said:

I haven't replied to RW for at least 6 months. 🤷‍♂️ I'm all for nuance, just not when it's making excuses for thicko racist rioters.

Really? Fair enough so apologies. My point still stands on both of you 🤣👍

[Ani]

21 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Some people are just racists. What's the point in fannying around and making excuses for them?

So is someone saying the below racist ? 

‘I do not agree with the rioters but there are a lot of social issues that are leading to a build up of anger that is being fanned by the extremists’

 

 

Edited June 13, 2025 by Ani

[Cheese]

Just now, Winchester White said:

Really? Fair enough so apologies. My point still stands on both of you 🤣👍

Yes. He still mentions me or replies to me on a daily basis though. Tragic really.

[Ani]

25 minutes ago, Zico said:

The conversation is only difficult when you have folk like cheese shouting racist from the sidelines

Extremists of both sides are more interested in the argument than the solution. 

[Cheese]

1 minute ago, Ani said:

So is someone saying I do not agree with rioters but there a lot of social issues that are leading to a build of anger that is being fanned by the extremists. Racist.

Pardon?

[miamiwhite]

Just now, Cheese said:

Pardon?

I think Ani is on the wrong website and forgot his commas from cummers ☺ 

[miamiwhite]

10 minutes ago, Ani said:

So is someone saying the below racist ? 

‘I do not agree with the rioters but there are a lot of social issues that are leading to a build up of anger that is being fanned by the extremists’

 

 

That was a shit hot edit you tit 😂 😂 

[Ani]

1 minute ago, miamiwhite said:

That was a shit hot edit you tit 😂 😂 

Did not even use any commas. 😎👍

[Cheese]

10 minutes ago, Ani said:

So is someone saying the below racist ? 

‘I do not agree with the rioters but there are a lot of social issues that are leading to a build up of anger that is being fanned by the extremists’

No. But they're appeasing/excusing the racists behaviour, which is almost as bad. As I said earlier, it's like blaming a woman for winding up a man who battered her.

[miamiwhite]

1 minute ago, Ani said:

Did not even use any commas. 😎👍

I noticed 😂