Politics

[gonzo]

10 minutes ago, Cheese said:

No. But they're appeasing/excusing the racists behaviour, which is almost as bad. As I said earlier, it's like blaming a woman for winding up a man who battered her.

Not one person has appeased or excused them in any way shape or form.

 

[Ani]

17 minutes ago, Cheese said:

No. But they're appeasing/excusing the racists behaviour, which is almost as bad. As I said earlier, it's like blaming a woman for winding up a man who battered her.

That is how you have interpreted what people have said and are sticking to it despite them saying it was not what they meant.

People across the country are fucked off and angry about a number of issues 99% of us are bright enough and sensible enough to know rioting and attacking innocent people is crazy . But whilst the issues exist there will some evil fucker looking to radicilise that anger. 
 

Your example of the beaten women is nonsense tbh.,

[miamiwhite]

30 minutes ago, Cheese said:

No. But they're appeasing/excusing the racists behaviour, which is almost as bad. As I said earlier, it's like blaming a woman for winding up a man who battered her.

Would you say the same when people blame a British woman/underage girl for wearing what they wear, their behaviour, etc is OK for them to be raped, sexually abused etc.

Before you bleat, I will tell you to refer to the court case In Rochdale a few years ago as a prime example, when the defendants used those words....not me

They were found guilty and consequently jailed

No doubt you'll know better

[miamiwhite]

1 hour ago, Cheese said:

No. But they're appeasing/excusing the racists behaviour, which is almost as bad. As I said earlier, it's like blaming a woman for winding up a man who battered her.

Finally, you've gone quiet. 

[Cheese]

38 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Would you say the same when people blame a British woman/underage girl for wearing what they wear, their behaviour, etc is OK for them to be raped, sexually abused etc.

Before you bleat, I will tell you to refer to the court case In Rochdale a few years ago as a prime example, when the defendants used those words....not me

They were found guilty and consequently jailed

No doubt you'll know better

Yes, I would always say blaming the victim is abhorrent. You seem to have misunderstood my point.

[miamiwhite]

Just now, Cheese said:

Yes, I would always say blaming the victim is abhorrent. You seem to have misunderstood my point.

I've misunderstood nothing fella.  You rest well, I'm off to Ayrshire now

[royal white]

1 hour ago, Winchester White said:

Really? Fair enough so apologies. My point still stands on both of you 🤣👍

Cheese is lying and you’re obsessed. 
 

as you were

[Cheese]

1 hour ago, gonzo said:

Not one person has appeased or excused them in any way shape or form.

Aye alright. Tell us again how they have legitimate concerns about immigrants.

[Not in Crawley]

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

Yes, I would always say blaming the victim is abhorrent. You seem to have misunderstood my point.

I think people have because your point is valid.

[Cheese]

7 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

I've misunderstood nothing fella.  You rest well, I'm off to Ayrshire now

You clearly have. Enjoy.

[Winchester White]

8 minutes ago, royal white said:

Cheese is lying and you’re obsessed. 
 

as you were

I'm really not.

As you were.

[Not in Crawley]

7 minutes ago, Cheese said:

You clearly have. Enjoy.

Nothing new there really.

[Cheese]

14 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

I'm really not.

As you were.

Told you. The lad is clearly a a bit ill. Probably best to just ignore him and leave him to fight his demons.

Edited June 13, 2025 by Cheese

[Not in Crawley]

Just now, Cheese said:

Told you. The lad is clearly a a bit ill. Probably best to just ignore him and let him fight his demons.

He's not ill - just a bit stuck in his ways, not massively bright, and therefore sticks to his ill informed guns. I get it, it's easier than questioning things.

 

[gonzo]

34 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Aye alright. Tell us again how they have legitimate concerns about immigrants.

They as in the rioters? 

I've already explained they are bi product of the situation.

I'm not sure how clearer I can be.

You just refuse to read properly.

 

[gonzo]

21 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Told you. The lad is clearly a a bit ill. Probably best to just ignore him and leave him to fight his demons.

Pot kettle.

[Cheese]

1 minute ago, gonzo said:

They as in the rioters? 

I've already explained they are bi product of the situation.

I'm not sure how clearer I can be.

You just refuse to read properly.

I have read your words perfectly. You're saying that - even though you don't agree with their actions - you think they've got a justifiable reason to riot and attack suspected immigrants.

[Winchester White]

30 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Told you. The lad is clearly a a bit ill. Probably best to just ignore him and leave him to fight his demons.

I have my demons but aren't ill. I prefer not to throw stuff like that about even if I don't agree with RW on most things.

[Casino]

2 hours ago, Cheese said:

Some people are just racists. What's the point in fannying around and making excuses for them?

We definitely have some racists/islamophobes on here

To a man theyll deny it

Theyre few in number and pathetic individuals

Gonzo isnt one of em

[Cheese]

Just now, Casino said:

We definitely have some racists/islamophobes on here

To a man theyll deny it

Theyre few in number and pathetic individuals

Gonzo isnt one of em

Didn't say he was. But he agrees with their motivations.

[Casino]

Just now, Cheese said:

Didn't say he was. But he agrees with their motivations.

I think hes doing his best to explain their motivations

And id agree with you, some evil opportunists are feeding them shit which reinforces their thinking

[Spider]

I’m not a massive fan of Pakistanis.

In the same way I’m not a massive fan of scousers.

Its more cultural than race.

[London Wanderer]

3 hours ago, Cheese said:

A Reform voters' fantasies.

The best was the bit about not being able to promote British produce as folk will call you racist.

Proper fantasy stuff 😂

But do stop calling everyone a racist, you massive fanny x 

[Winchester White]

10 minutes ago, Spider said:

I’m not a massive fan of Pakistanis.

In the same way I’m not a massive fan of scousers.

Its more cultural than race.

I know you're being a bit of a tinker but I kind of agree. I also dont like those that travel around the country demanding privileges then leave nothing but shite behind them.

I also now you can't tar all with the same brush.

[London Wanderer]

34 minutes ago, Cheese said:

I have read your words perfectly. You're saying that - even though you don't agree with their actions - you think they've got a justifiable reason to riot and attack suspected immigrants.

I don't think he's saying they have a justifiable reason, don't think he ever has.

The thing being missed here is that the people attacking those poor families' homes aren't doing so because of anger over wider social issues. They're doing it because they are vile racists thugs. The only reason they are targeting these homes and businesses is because they are foreign. Their motivation is hatred. That's why I have little tolerance for trying to understand it. I'd rather the focus was on how many years they end up in a cell. 

These are people who would hate immigrants even if we had a perfect system, with no backlog and migrant workers where we needed them. They'd still target them. 

Fck em and fck their motivations.