Politics

[Dimron]

34 minutes ago, paulhanley said:

One thing I have been saying for a while now is that this current generation of UK politicians is shocking. And I have to say - it is on the whole my own generation, folk either side of 50. We are ill served by woeful political leaders of all stripes. They have no gravitas, little integrity and nothing new to offer. They are soundbite people who have dug this economic hole we are now in because they have not had the wit to do anything about it. 

The result is that it comes as absolutely no surprise when a woman who claims to profoundly believe in socialism fiddles her own taxes. 

Layer on top of that the people are sick and tired of both of the main parties and the  absolute disconnect with the elitist one-eyed wokery that riddles our public institutions/local government/civil service and you can see why people are in despair. 

Our forebears did things better. They were more cerebral and on the whole more trustworthy, responsible and upright. 

Would some sort of coalition be the way forward?

[paulhanley]

5 minutes ago, Dimron said:

Would some sort of coalition be the way forward?

If it is a coalition of those already within the political class in this country I do not think so.

[frank_spencer]

4 minutes ago, Dimron said:

Would some sort of coalition be the way forward?

The 2 party majority is done for that's certain. Reform have decimated the Tory base and Labours shift to the right has upset a lot of their lefty voters. 

[mickbrown]

 

 

[Dimron]

55 minutes ago, frank_spencer said:

The 2 party majority is done for that's certain. Reform have decimated the Tory base and Labours shift to the right has upset a lot of their lefty voters. 

Maybe we should declare some sort of state of emergency for a fixed term. Concentrate on domestic issues and put the barriers up with regard to immigration etc... put up signs saying "sorry full up, come back in two years". Get the drain on our resources sorted and get the country pulling in the same direction.

Put the foot on the ball and look around and adjust our tactics.

Starmer strikes me as a good Chairman and Sunak was a far superior Chancellor compared to Reeves.

We could have a game proposing the new non-party government

 

 

[Cheese]

8 minutes ago, Dimron said:

Maybe we should declare some sort of state of emergency for a fixed term. Concentrate on domestic issues and put the barriers up with regard to immigration etc... put up signs saying "sorry full up, come back in two years". Get the drain on our resources sorted and get the country pulling in the same direction.

Put the foot on the ball and look around and adjust our tactics.

Starmer strikes me as a good Chairman and Sunak was a far superior Chancellor compared to Reeves.

We could have a game proposing the new non-party government

Immigration isn't a "drain on our resources".

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

Some immigration absolutely is

[royal white]

8 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Some immigration absolutely is

Apparently according to some (who clearly have their head in the sand) it has no impact on housing. Try and figure that out. 

[Dimron]

26 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Some immigration absolutely is

And funding overseas wars

[Cheese]

24 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Some immigration absolutely is

"Some" parts of everything are a drain on resources. But overall, immigrants put more in than they take out. An uncomfortable fact for those who have been whipped into a frenzy by all the small boat propaganda.

[Dimron]

17 minutes ago, royal white said:

Apparently according to some (who clearly have their head in the sand) it has no impact on housing. Try and figure that out. 

We're in a cycle that needs breaking

More people = more houses = more hospitals = more schools = more, more, more

Need to stop feeding the fire

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

Just now, Dimron said:

And funding overseas wars

🙄

[BobyBrno]

43 minutes ago, Dimron said:

Maybe we should declare some sort of state of emergency for a fixed term. Concentrate on domestic issues and put the barriers up with regard to immigration etc... put up signs saying "sorry full up, come back in two years". Get the drain on our resources sorted and get the country pulling in the same direction.

Put the foot on the ball and look around and adjust our tactics.

Starmer strikes me as a good Chairman and Sunak was a far superior Chancellor compared to Reeves.

We could have a game proposing the new non-party government

 

 

I had a theory about this. If, say, Andy Burnham stood as an Independent and no party had an overall majority. Could an independent become PM? I’ve used Burnham because with this current crop of politicians, I believe he is one who could unite the country. 
A lot could happen in 4 years of course. (Or two if you believe Farage)

[Dimron]

Just now, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

🙄

Only acceptable if we create a "war tax" as for instance in WW1... then you will see how much Joe Public wants to intervene

[Dimron]

1 minute ago, BobyBrno said:

I had a theory about this. If, say, Andy Burnham stood as an Independent and no party had an overall majority. Could an independent become PM? I’ve used Burnham because with this current crop of politicians, I believe he is one who could unite the country. 
A lot could happen in 4 years of course. (Or two if you believe Farage)

Good call

[Spider]

7 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

I had a theory about this. If, say, Andy Burnham stood as an Independent and no party had an overall majority. Could an independent become PM? I’ve used Burnham because with this current crop of politicians, I believe he is one who could unite the country. 
A lot could happen in 4 years of course. (Or two if you believe Farage)

👏 👏👏👏

If only.

Hes genuinely the only one out there that seems to have the right combination of balance, calmness and quality. Not perfect, but I’d absolutely be behind him.

 

 

[royal white]

23 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

I had a theory about this. If, say, Andy Burnham stood as an Independent and no party had an overall majority. Could an independent become PM? I’ve used Burnham because with this current crop of politicians, I believe he is one who could unite the country. 
A lot could happen in 4 years of course. (Or two if you believe Farage)

Ended up having a beer with Andy Burnham a couple of weeks back. Quite a nice bloke, we didn’t speak politics though so that’s probably why. 

[mickbrown]

 

 

[bolty58]

On 04/09/2025 at 17:56, mickbrown said:

Nope. 

He is and it's spelled 'Dope'.

[bolty58]

On 04/09/2025 at 17:59, mickbrown said:

We’ll see eh?

We most certainly will. She can't 'super tax' the 'super rich' she's already driven out so who do you think she'll turn to? Be afraid.

[Spider]

Why are the “super rich” leaving again?

[bolty58]

On 04/09/2025 at 21:23, Dimron said:

 

It was all about centralistion of power by New Labour and has resulted in a big pumped up Westminster bubble with the associated disconnection with the hoi polloi we see now

 

It always is with Labour. It always is with the EU.

[bolty58]

On 05/09/2025 at 19:24, bwfc4ife said:

Not really, i just don't trust a chav from a council estate who got pregnant at 16 and has absolutely zero qualifications whatsoever

They will try and paint a different picture. It is what they do. You are spot on mate - she is a repulsive specimen. Now Rachel Reeves seems like a nice lass - just way, way out of her depth.

SKS will find another 'non threat' to sit by him.

[bolty58]

On 05/09/2025 at 21:33, Tombwfc said:

The Conservatives being a bunch of self-serving cunts in government doesn't change how much of an abysmal mistake this was. All that about 'one rule for them, one for us' and 'tax avoidance costs lives' it's actually incredible that she's gone this way.

Tawdry scum. The perfect title for her.

[kent_white]

4 hours ago, Dimron said:

Sunak was a far superior Chancellor compared to Reeves.

Was he really though. Or did he just give everyone a load of free money during COVID?