Sweaty Ken

[Sluffy]

Fuck knows. Their twitter account is fucking weird, retweeting BWFC and Iles. They don't get Twitter either, hardly a surprise. When's the AGM again?

 

Doesn't Mounts know this, doesn't he go to their working meetings or whatever they were called - are they still going.

 

What's happening with the ST these days Mounts?

[Mounts Kipper]

Doesn't Mounts know this, doesn't he go to their working meetings or whatever they were called - are they still going.

 

What's happening with the ST these days Mounts?

Couldn't make the last one which was quite a while ago, no idea on what's going on. As I've said from day one the trust is there as a last gasp safety net, no need for them to be anything other than that and it seems that's where they are now at.

[Carlos]

They’ve resorted to sniping at Ken via various cuntish Twitter accounts. Big men.

[tkonion]

Don Meccalister

[Mounts Kipper]

They’ve resorted to sniping at Ken via various cuntish Twitter accounts. Big men.

Who has? Can you post link to tweets?

[Carlos]

Can’t be arsed, Phil Shortland, Bowers et al.

[Mounts Kipper]

Can’t be arsed, Phil Shortland, Bowers et al.

They are not trust board members whatever their tweeting is surely only their opinion. Unless your saying that these 2 are front for trust board members opinions? That would seem far fetched to me.

Edited May 12, 2018 by Mounts Kipper

[Carlos]

Yes, it’s far fetched. And you are right. As usual.

[Mounts Kipper]

Yes, it’s far fetched. And you are right. As usual.

I said far fetched but as you have no evidence to offer then I suggest your accusations are unfounded and as a mod on here I’d expect that you would be able to qualify such statements before you posted them.

Edited May 13, 2018 by Mounts Kipper

[jayjayoghani]

and as a mod on here I’d expect that you would be able to qualify such statements before you posted them.

I was on here reading the forum once with my brother looking over my shoulder.

 

He reads summat like "once the players have come back from banging their bongos" (returning from African Nations duty)

 

He pipes up "shit, isn't the site moderated?"

 

"He is a moderator"

 

#gonzoformod

[Carlos]

What has me being a mod on here got to do with anything? If you are saying I can’t post something you disagree with I’m quite happy to quit.

 

I’m on my phone, I can’t be arsed producing conclusive proof. All people in and around the ST do is slate Ken, it’s there for all to see. Izal, Bowers, Shortland et al.

[Carlos]

Also, more than one of them have already blocked me (and others) on Twitter. A sure fire sign you’ve lost.

[Mounts Kipper]

What has me being a mod on here got to do with anything? If you are saying I can’t post something you disagree with I’m quite happy to quit.

 

I’m on my phone, I can’t be arsed producing conclusive proof. All people in and around the ST do is slate Ken, it’s there for all to see. Izal, Bowers, Shortland et al.

 

I’m not sure I disagreed I just ask what proof you have and as usual you go seem to go off on one. If the board are slagging Ken off then folk should be aware of what stance they are taking and the reason I asked for proof. I’m not sure what connection Shortland and Bower have to the board and Izal has stepped down, it just seems to me you’ve put 2 and 2 together and come up with 5. I’ll also add being cautious or even sceptical of KA ain’t a hanging offence, I’m 100% behind KA while he’s doing what looks like a good job but I’m happy that the Trust keeps a watching brief.

[Sluffy]

I’m not sure I disagreed I just ask what proof you have and as usual you go seem to go off on one. If the board are slagging Ken off then folk should be aware of what stance they are taking and the reason I asked for proof. I’m not sure what connection Shortland and Bower have to the board and Izal has stepped down, it just seems to me you’ve put 2 and 2 together and come up with 5. I’ll also add being cautious or even sceptical of KA ain’t a hanging offence, I’m 100% behind KA while he’s doing what looks like a good job but I’m happy that the Trust keeps a watching brief.

 

Isn't this double standards from you though Mounts?

 

You are fully behind the ST when they are shouting from the roof tops that the clubs accounts are overdue and demand the club is open and accountable to the fans, yet don't say a dicky bird when they themselves fail to submit the their accounts since July 2016 and no one seems to know if they are even still going or not, they've certainly not had an AGM since 2016 and nothing as been posted on their own web site specifically about Bolton ST since 13th January this year!

 

God forbid but would you honestly want the clubs future to be in the hands of these rank amateurs / chancers (in my opinion) if anything bad really happened to BWFC.

 

I would also like to call out Iles, who has happily reported on every negative story the ST brought up against how Anderson was running the club, to report on the apparent 'disappearance' of the ST this year and the lack of an AGM for last year, plus their outstanding accounts since 2016!!!

 

Or has he double standards too?

[Eavesy]

Not for the first time iles has backed the wrong horse.

[Mounts Kipper]

Isn't this double standards from you though Mounts?

 

You are fully behind the ST when they are shouting from the roof tops that the clubs accounts are overdue and demand the club is open and accountable to the fans, yet don't say a dicky bird when they themselves fail to submit the their accounts since July 2016 and no one seems to know if they are even still going or not, they've certainly not had an AGM since 2016 and nothing as been posted on their own web site specifically about Bolton ST since 13th January this year!

 

God forbid but would you honestly want the clubs future to be in the hands of these rank amateurs / chancers (in my opinion) if anything bad really happened to BWFC.

 

I would also like to call out Iles, who has happily reported on every negative story the ST brought up against how Anderson was running the club, to report on the apparent 'disappearance' of the ST this year and the lack of an AGM for last year, plus their outstanding accounts since 2016!!!

 

Or has he double standards too?

 

I don’t recall slagging the club off for not filing their accounts so not sure how I’ve got double standards, both the club and the trust have to report by a set date and if they don’t do that then would face the consequences. Regarding Iles he’s a duty to report on anything that relates to BWFC so not sure what your issue is there. Which story did he report on that upset you? And why?

[Sluffy]

I don’t recall slagging the club off for not filing their accounts so not sure how I’ve got double standards, both the club and the trust have to report by a set date and if they don’t do that then would face the consequences. Regarding Iles he’s a duty to report on anything that relates to BWFC so not sure what your issue is there. Which story did he report on that upset you? And why?

 

I'm talking about the total blind faith you put into the ST and its Board.

 

How can you fully support them in criticising the club for not doing things, then turn a blind eye to the ST doing the very same things?

 

The ST under its own articles of association would require it to hold an annual AGM and submit their latest accounts for approval to it.  No AGM was held in 2017, nor 2018 to date and the last accounts they filed were in July 2016.  I would suspect that if this isn't rectified soon the Financial Conduct Authority will be looking to wind then up?

 

As for Iles he's reported on every negative story towards the club and the owner - even forcing Anderson to publically deny some of them - raised by the ST board members, but has glaringly failed to report anything much negatively relating to them even though they are three years old and already missed two AGM's, have accounts outstanding for nearly two years and people haven't seen hide or hair of them at all this year.

 

Hardly even handed, unbaised reporting is it?

[Roger_Dubuis]

 

 

As for Iles he's reported on every negative story towards the club and the owner - even forcing Anderson to publically deny some of them - raised by the ST board members, but has glaringly failed to report anything much negatively relating to them even though they are three years old and already missed two AGM's, have accounts outstanding for nearly two years and people haven't seen hide or hair of them at all this year.

 

Hardly even handed, unbaised reporting is it?

A football club not filing accounts is a story, a football clubs' supporters trust not filing accounts, hardly anyone gives a fuck about

that.

If the BEN had " Hold up in supporters trust accounts being filed" on their placards in town hardly any fucker will buy the paper on the back of that.It's hardly White Hot 3 is it?

Edited May 13, 2018 by Roger_Dubuis

[Casino]

So, what should the reporter at the local rag report on when there's no football

 

Let's not forget we are supposed to believe these loons could run a football club

[Sluffy]

So, what should the reporter at the local rag report on when there's no football

 

Let's not forget we are supposed to believe these loons could run a football club

 

Thanks that is exactly my point.

 

Hundreds of people piled in to back a very small group of people that most of them didn't even know, nor what they stood for, when the ST was born.

Initially it had a interim and well respected chairman Richard Hurst, who disappeared very quietly soon after  - almost as though he hadn't found to his satisfaction what he was heading up and jumped as soon as he could?

The next Chairman, Bridge hasn't got the best record in running a company if his public record on Companies House as anything to go by, and his replacement Issa tweeted negative stuff about the clubs current owner - how is that ever going to bring about the ST having any sway over the clubs decision making.

The current Chairman said in his only public statement in January that he was going "in the very near future" to set a date for the AGM - we've not heard hide or hair of him (or the AGM) since!

The majority of the current Board have been there since the start, yet key events such as AGM's and submitting of accounts have been missed year on year.

 

As it stands these are the people whose hands the club will be in, if financially things turn out bad for us - which they still might - and which people such as Shortland, 'Smurf', etc, continually bang on about.

 

Surely it is not such an abnormal expectation for the towns major football reporter to at least keep tabs on what is happening with the ST, bearing in mind the BluMarble loan is due for repayment in November and is looming over the club financially!

 

I would also have expected the ST (if it is still active?) to officially have congratulated the owner, manager and the players for staying up this season against all the odds - why haven't they?

 

Hardly a difficult thing to do by them, nor Iles doing a piece on the current status of the ST either.

 

Is it really too much to ask of them both?

[Mounts Kipper]

So, what should the reporter at the local rag report on when there's no football

 

Let's not forget we are supposed to believe these loons could run a football club

The fact still remains that if we ever did go into admin then it’s very possible the trust would be the only saviour at that stage. I’d feel that the trust would only be the holding position while another owner was found (that’s what happened at Pompey) I prefer that safety net to the alternative which might just be a winding up order, whether you like the board members or not that’s got to be the lesser of 2 evils, hasn’t it? Edited May 14, 2018 by Mounts Kipper

[Eavesy]

The fact still remains that if we ever did go into admin then it’s very possible the trust would be the only saviour at that stage. I’d feel that the trust would only be the holding position while another owner was found (that’s what happened at Pompey) I prefer that safety net to the alternative which might just be a winding up order, whether you like the board members or not that’s got to be the lesser of 2 evils, hasn’t it?

No one has a problem with that.

 

People should be applauded for that.

 

But to then use the trust as a platform to spout lies and ridicule is where things go wrong.

 

The sheer fact that the only speak up when things are looking grim rings massive alarm bells.

 

Especially when they reference the fans and how they are speaking on behalf of us. Which they aren’t.

[Ani]

The fact still remains that if we ever did go into admin then it’s very possible the trust would be the only saviour at that stage. I’d feel that the trust would only be the holding position while another owner was found (that’s what happened at Pompey) I prefer that safety net to the alternative which might just be a winding up order, whether you like the board members or not that’s got to be the lesser of 2 evils, hasn’t it?

Mounts to be our only saviours the Trust have to show they are capable of having their own affairs in order and when push comes to shove uniting our support.

 

I can see no evidence they are capable of doing anything of the sort.

 

http://www.bwfcst.co.uk 13th Jan chairman says AGM will be in very near future.

Edited May 14, 2018 by Ani

[Mounts Kipper]

Mounts to be our only saviours the Trust have to show they are capable of having their own affairs in order and when push comes to shove uniting our support.

 

I can see no evidence they are capable of doing anything of the sort.

 

http://www.bwfcst.co.uk 13th Jan chairman says AGM will be in very near future.

I’d say that’s a fair point and if I’m invited to any future trust group meetings I’ll raise your point.

[Mounts Kipper]

No one has a problem with that.

 

People should be applauded for that.

 

But to then use the trust as a platform to spout lies and ridicule is where things go wrong.

 

The sheer fact that the only speak up when things are looking grim rings massive alarm bells.

 

Especially when they reference the fans and how they are speaking on behalf of us. Which they aren’t.

Again a fair point however I’m still waiting to hear what lies have been spouted, if the trust board have spouted any lies then I’m pretty sure KA would have gone down a legal route. If the trust have reported unpalatable news and challenged KA on that information then isn’t that what the Trust are supposed to be doing? Point me in the direction of these lies and I’ll again raise these at next meeting.