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as anybody near me will testify, the selection of wilbraham topped off an utterly shit week

 

barnstoneworth just told me it was absolutely the right decision and he had picked the team that shouldve started at burton

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out of interest, what were the restrictions that meant we could sign Buckley, Taylor, Ameobi, Little, Darby, Le Fondre, Noone & Wilbraham on frees, + 5 players on loan, but meant we couldn't sign Henry till September?

 

for me it was quite the oversight to let Spearing go and sign 5 forwards, but no defensive midfielder

 

though I'd also say that the return from injury for Vela and Ameobi at the same time as Henry's arrival transformed the first team and approach massively

 

As far as I understood it at the time Buckley, Taylor etc, were signed under the 'old' embargo conditions but new, more harsher ones were introduced severely restricting the amount of salary we could pay to players and as Spearing was at the time holding out for a wage increase, it basically left us to begin the season with no defensive midfielder in the squad, let alone the team.

 

Reading between the lines I think it was the EFL's way of pushing the club to come out of the embargo which it duly did with a couple of months.

 

The link below refers to how the maximum wages that could be paid under the old embargo which if I recall correctly was around £9,000 per week were suddenly reduced to £4,500 per week, under the new, harsher embargo, which killed the Spearing deal stone dead at the time - and that it was 'hoisted' on the club mid summer, even though we had already been under an embargo for over a year before that.

 

In short if Spearing hadn't had been so greedy and accepted the terms all the rest signed up for at the time, there wouldn't have been a problem as such, however he held out and got caught out with the harsher wage pay limits of the new embargo - and both he and the club missed out.

 

http://forum.boltonnuts.co.uk/t16611-inside-wanderers-why-the-end-of-embargo-won-t-mean-a-free-for-all?highlight=embargo

Edited by Sluffy

So we basically have a shit sandwich. shit at the start, ok in the middle, pretty shit at the end. 

 

On the basis of the season and my belief the squad was good enough to survive for me he has a lot of questions to answer. expalin the freezing out and i may change my opinion (not that he has to answer to me this is just my opinion). At the end of the season we were very lucky and we may not be as fortunate next time. 

 

lets not mistake the credit he is rightly getting for keeping us up. 

 

i don't know anyone who saw the strikeforce pre kick off sunday who didn't think ALF should be playing. Yes wilbraham scored in the end up but he missed many and i don't believe this would have been the case with ALF. 

 

although as the guy who sits near me text his mate "Tell that fat bastard how good is wilbraham now" which shows how daft it is. the lad still shouldnt be leading our line but now hes a world beater. 

 

as anybody near me will testify, the selection of wilbraham topped off an utterly shit week

 

barnstoneworth just told me it was absolutely the right decision and he had picked the team that shouldve started at burton

As far as I understood it at the time Buckley, Taylor etc, were signed under the 'old' embargo conditions but new, more harsher ones were introduced severely restricting the amount of salary we could pay to players and as Spearing was at the time holding out for a wage increase, it basically left us to begin the season with no defensive midfielder in the squad, let alone the team.

 

Reading between the lines I think it was the EFL's way of pushing the club to come out of the embargo which it duly did with a couple of months.

 

The link below refers to how the maximum wages that could be paid under the old embargo which if I recall correctly was around £9,000 per week were suddenly reduced to £4,500 per week, under the new, harsher embargo, which killed the Spearing deal stone dead at the time - and that it was 'hoisted' on the club mid summer, even though we had already been under an embargo for over a year before that.

 

In short if Spearing hadn't had been so greedy and accepted the terms all the rest signed up for at the time, there wouldn't have been a problem as such, however he held out and got caught out with the harsher wage pay limits of the new embargo - and both he and the club missed out.

 

http://forum.boltonnuts.co.uk/t16611-inside-wanderers-why-the-end-of-embargo-won-t-mean-a-free-for-all?highlight=embargo

 

Spearing left on July 8th - which left another month till the start of the season

 

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wanderers/15397848.Wanderers_sever_ties_with_ex_captain_Spearing/

https://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/2017/july/jay-spearing-leaves-wanderers/

 

Taylor came in May, ALF start of June, Little mid June, Buckley came on 30th June, Ameobi 14th July, Wilbrham on 3rd August, Noone 31st August

 

point being players were signed either side of Spearing leaving, not sure when this harsher embargo kicked in or was lifted, but suspect had it kicked in before Spearing left, we wouldn't have signed Ameobi and probably Noone

 

Henry signed in September but I suspect other than Wilbraham he was probably the lowest paid signing last season, embargo or otherwise and would've been available all summer

Spearing left on July 8th - which left another month till the start of the season

 

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wanderers/15397848.Wanderers_sever_ties_with_ex_captain_Spearing/

https://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/2017/july/jay-spearing-leaves-wanderers/

 

Taylor came in May, ALF start of June, Little mid June, Buckley came on 30th June, Ameobi 14th July, Wilbrham on 3rd August, Noone 31st August

 

point being players were signed either side of Spearing leaving, not sure when this harsher embargo kicked in or was lifted, but suspect had it kicked in before Spearing left, we wouldn't have signed Ameobi and probably Noone

 

Henry signed in September but I suspect other than Wilbraham he was probably the lowest paid signing last season, embargo or otherwise and would've been available all summer

 

 

Well it was all a bit of a mystery around the time, with the club saying they were not aware of the new, harsher, embargo being implemented - maybe this link is more informative to you? -

 

https://lionofviennasuite.sbnation.com/2017/7/27/16049898/the-embargo-manifesto-bwfc

 

 

EDIT - I've finally been able to track down Iles article on the 'harsher; embargo - dated 27th July, 2017

 

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/15436049.Whites_wage_cap_crusade/

Edited by Sluffy

Well it was all a bit of a mystery around the time, with the club saying they were not aware of the new, harsher, embargo being implemented - maybe this link is more informative to you? -

 

https://lionofviennasuite.sbnation.com/2017/7/27/16049898/the-embargo-manifesto-bwfc

 

 

EDIT - I've finally been able to track down Iles article on the 'harsher; embargo - dated 27th July, 2017

 

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/15436049.Whites_wage_cap_crusade/

 

so based on that, it wasn't the embargo that led to spearing leaving as he left 2 weeks or so before it kicked in - I would have thought he just wanted more than we were willing to offer

 

there was still seemingly nothing to stop us bringing in a DM though, as we still got a winger and a striker whilst under this embargo based on the dates

 

be interesting to know what KH is on a week, as he'd have been available throughout the summer

so based on that, it wasn't the embargo that led to spearing leaving as he left 2 weeks or so before it kicked in - I would have thought he just wanted more than we were willing to offer

 

there was still seemingly nothing to stop us bringing in a DM though, as we still got a winger and a striker whilst under this embargo based on the dates

 

be interesting to know what KH is on a week, as he'd have been available throughout the summer

If memory serves he wanted around 18K a week to re sign. Down from 30K he was on on his previous contract

 

Ended up signing with Blackpool for 8K

Blackpool paying 8k

 

Good lord what's the going rate in our league

so based on that, it wasn't the embargo that led to spearing leaving as he left 2 weeks or so before it kicked in - I would have thought he just wanted more than we were willing to offer

 

there was still seemingly nothing to stop us bringing in a DM though, as we still got a winger and a striker whilst under this embargo based on the dates

 

be interesting to know what KH is on a week, as he'd have been available throughout the summer

The embargo was in force at a £10k a week cap at the point Spearing left. He wouldn’t agree to wages we could offer him. It is likely he’d have gone even without the embargo as the club couldn’t afford his requests under Ken’s budgetary control.

Blackpool paying 8k

 

Good lord what's the going rate in our league

Bury are paying beckford 7k

Blackpool paying 8k

 

Good lord what's the going rate in our league

 

 

Probably £18,000 a week will be the average.

 

As with any average, they are skewed.

If memory serves he wanted around 18K a week to re sign. Down from 30K he was on on his previous contract

 

Ended up signing with Blackpool for 8K

I thought Spearing was on about 16K a week when he first signed for us? Really can't see us paying him 30K at the time and no way are the Donkey lashers paying him 8K a week!

speaking of embargos

 

just read an article that mentioned who the last player we actually paid for was

 

fuck me, we're better off being under an embargo

 

anyone care to guess?  

Spearing isnt it

 

Or a reserve keeper

 

Or woolery

speaking of embargos

 

just read an article that mentioned who the last player we actually paid for was

 

fuck me, we're better off being under an embargo

 

anyone care to guess?  

 

 

Twardzik?

Oooh

 

I reckon we have a winner

If you were offended by spearings Blackpool wages you'd be more offended by his Bolton wages.

 

On the wages game we should of walked league 1.

Not Shola on a short contract? I'm probably wrong.

free transfer

Was reported as 250k more than once

Just read a piece that our average salary this season is £6200

 

More than pne,Barnsley,burton and Millwall

 

And only slightly behind sheff Utd and Brentford

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