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2 minutes ago, Howardroark said:

Considering Nixon doesn’t even know who the buyers are, it’s difficult to see how he would get any information. 

Its progressing fine and will happen. 

Of course Ken is playing the game a bit, but wouldn’t we all?

Cheers Howard I'll sleep a bit better now, night all 😴

1 minute ago, darrener said:

I'm not that bothered about knowing who it is, I just want a good deal for the club to be done soon 

Think we all echo this but also think you will agree this is the first possible bit of good news we’ve had in a while so the anticipation has cranked up 

4 minutes ago, Burndens Bogs said:

Murat Ulker is based in Turkey and doesn't have a stake in another football club.

Nothing to see here, move on.

Shame though, because he's minted to the max.

Fenerbache

and UK based could be interpreted as tax domiciled which with his UK assets then it fits.

I think people Have to remember this time last week we were going out of business. 

 

I just want want someone with enough money and gumption to keep the club running and paying the bills. 

 

Champions League can wait for now. 

Just now, WestStandUpper said:

Fenerbache

and UK based could be interpreted as tax domiciled which with his UK assets then it fits.

Thought he just had naming rights to Fernerbaches stadium?

12 minutes ago, Casino said:

Okey coke

At least I'm now happy youre not nixon

I'll track him down though :)

No, i'm Adam Dixon... I don't even know who Alan Nixon is 😉 

Just now, Casino said:

Will you please stop badgering him

Nothing Howard has told us so far leads me to believe he knows who the bidder is

And I for one would prefer not to jeopardise owt

Good call

That's exactly what I said when I was trying to get him back on here a while back 

Unless its been leaked and I dont think it has everything is in lockdown and anyone who does know will say nothing 

2 minutes ago, Burndens Bogs said:

Thought he just had naming rights to Fernerbaches stadium?

Yeah & he also owns a basketball club who merged with Fenerbache... 

16 minutes ago, Howardroark said:

Considering Nixon doesn’t even know who the buyers are, it’s difficult to see how he would get any information. 

Its progressing fine and will happen. 

Of course Ken is playing the game a bit, but wouldn’t we all?

Your confidence makes me confident.

My mates think I'm getting my hopes up far too high though. "You were on the brink and now this sounds almost too good to be true." One said to me.

What's football without a little hope though, ey?

8 minutes ago, WestStandUpper said:

Yeah & he also owns a basketball club who merged with Fenerbache... 

Stop convincing yourself or you'll end up disappointed.

 

Dont get the obsession with trying to unmask the bidder .

Chill out you will hopefully get to know when its 'breaking news' on Sky sports in the meantime we have H keeping us informed if anything significant happens

2 minutes ago, Take Hunt Off said:

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Chill out you will hopefully get to know when its 'breaking news' on Sky sports in the meantime we have H keeping us informed if anything significant happens

Iles will break the news shirley?

3 minutes ago, Gonk said:

Stop convincing yourself or you'll end up disappointed.

 

 

3 minutes ago, Take Hunt Off said:

Dont get the obsession with trying to unmask the bidder .

Chill out you will hopefully get to know when its 'breaking news' on Sky sports in the meantime we have H keeping us informed if anything significant happens

 

Very true on both counts... i'll back off, just a tad enthusiastic about it all. 

3 minutes ago, WestStandUpper said:

 

 

Very true on both counts... i'll back off, just a tad enthusiastic about it all. 

You're not alone mate.

I'm just anxious now about when it will get done. Don't want it to drag on and on any longer.

Anytime before April 3 will do nicely, though i'll feel sorry for the staff who won't get paid on time again!

And again the most important point is that net worth isn’t indicative of the amount to be spent on the club. 

24 minutes ago, WestStandUpper said:

Fenerbache

and UK based could be interpreted as tax domiciled which with his UK assets then it fits.

Let it go bud

1 minute ago, Howardroark said:

And again the most important point is that net worth isn’t indicative of the amount to be spent on the club. 

The reason he could want Bolton is a mystery, if it even is him, but maybe the current state of us coupled with our already Premier League facilities and infrastructure means means he (or any buyer) could get us at a snippet compared to a premier league or championship club. They wouldn't need to spend astronomical amounts to get us back to the premier league.

Currently we are very attractive proposition at a very cheap price compared to other clubs.

We might be cheap but the price someone would have to pay to transform that squad into anything remotely challenging for a hope of a play off place would be astronomical.

This premier league facilities argument is about 15 years out of date for me now. Half of the 92 could claim they've got "premier league facilities". (And that doesn't include one or two actually in it!)

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7 minutes ago, WestStandUpper said:

The reason he could want Bolton is a mystery, if it even is him, but maybe the current state of us coupled with our already Premier League facilities and infrastructure means means he (or any buyer) could get us at a snippet compared to a premier league or championship club. They wouldn't need to spend astronomical amounts to get us back to the premier league.

Currently we are very attractive proposition at a very cheap price compared to other clubs.

The reason I always quote Southampton as better value is because of their geographical location in respect of capturing fan base,  and also acquiring the best ‘local’ talent. They are relatively unchallenged on both counts whereas BWFC are significantly hamstrung on both counts due to the saturation of clubs in the area. 

Derby are losing £3M a month and are struggling to make the playoffs, Fulham spent £100M and are coming down again. 

The facilities now aren’t of PL quality, part of the reason for the struggles at present is that the players don’t have access to high level recovery equipment, the academy isn’t top category, the corporate facilities are dated and the stadium is now 21 years old.

We're a much bigger club than the half of the 92 though, and we do have premier league facilities regardless of whether any other clubs do too.. so couple both of them, along with the current asking price, we are a very attractive prospect to any potential buyer compared to other clubs presently.

Pay off the debts, get a new manager and invest in the playing squad is pretty much all that needs doing.. 

3 minutes ago, Howardroark said:

And again the most important point is that net worth isn’t indicative of the amount to be spent on the club. 

Talking about announcing the new owner/s (I'm asking the question generally to anyone who may know about these things - hopefully you might H), isn't the first announcement of such in these matters always to 'the City'?  (I know 'the City' refers to the City of London).

I've always assumed that to mean to the Stock Market but I don't know for certain and certainly don't know how it is announced, or who announces it?

I assume the reason it is, is because people generally own shares in public quoted companies, and it effects them financially?

Would the first we know about our new owners be when such an announcement is made.  If so where should we be looking out for it, although I suspect you will probably at the front of the queue  to inform us anyway?

I know Burnden Leisure is privately owned but with many people owning the remaining 5% or so share holding, but am guessing it will still need to be announced in ' the City' also?

I can't recall though if it was though when Holdsworth bought the club off Eddie?

Any explanation of such would be of interest and appreciated please.

 

3 minutes ago, Howardroark said:

The reason I always quote Southampton as better value is because of their geographical location in respect of capturing fan base,  and also acquiring the best ‘local’ talent. They are relatively unchallenged on both counts whereas BWFC are significantly hamstrung on both counts due to the saturation of clubs in the area. 

Derby are losing £3M a month and are struggling to make the playoffs, Fulham spent £100M and are coming down again. 

The facilities now aren’t of PL quality, part of the reason for the struggles at present is that the players don’t have access to high level recovery equipment, the academy isn’t top category, the corporate facilities are dated and the stadium is now 21 years old.

But the NW is the heart and hub of English football, and we are steeped in so much more history than Southampton, and arguably a bigger club too.

The only thing Southampton has in it's favour is that it is it's proximity of other clubs... but so do Stoke, no one really within any close radius other than Port Vale and they need taking over.. so shows having no clubs around you doesn't really count for much.

The stadium is 21 years old, but still young, its state of the art, and just needs a lick of paint.. the land surrounding the Reebok echoes the Etihad and look what the owners saw in that potential and turned that into (we won't get anything like Sheikh Mansour but the potential of the ground is the same).

The academy was one of the best in the country, and arguably still is, it just needs investment... which a new owner can bring, same as the new equipment, a new owner can buy that, its not out of reach with someone with some financial clout like Ulker

Odd then that Holdsworth ever got his hands on the club

Get real, we are not very attractive or we wouldn't be where we are now

Welcome back Howard. How much would Southampton be likely to cost if they can attract a buyer? 

Maybe this is the next frontier of argument and infighting then; those like me on one side feeling lucky to still have a club to support at all and quite content to consolidate and take stock while we're still on life support in league 1 - and another side quickly forgetting years of austerity that still brought a near death experience, who expect our new owners to be just as reckless with their spending as previous owners to try and break back into the cash cow league as soon as possible.

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