Popeye doyle Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 The thing is any club can get to the premiership, irrespective of size or history. Bournemouth, Bradford, Wigan etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrener Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 To get more TV money we need to have a product that's worth watching which means a better brand of football, we don't want to watch the current shite so why would anyone else want to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 People keep talking investors to get us the promised land. I just want us out of the shit. The arguements about ‘why’ invest are a waste of time. Someone invested in Bournemouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ10 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Howard, Are we still only expecting some sort of announcement next Monday? Or is there a possibility Ken signs off before / on payday at the end of this week and they announce then? Do we think the whole who pays the wages argument will be avoided like last month? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestStandUpper Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 3 hours ago, Duck Egg said: Aye, very arguably!! No offence mate but by any measure we're not even close. On what basis? Just because they are in the premier league now and we're not?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestStandUpper Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 45 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: From an investors point of view the infrastructure around the stadium, car parks, hotel and the stadium is better at Bolton, the potential crowds not that different in the grand scheme of things. Southampton are close to full potential where we are below true potential, where do you go with Southampton from where they are? Southampton probably cost 5-10 times more to purchase than Bolton would. Exactly my point. The price of us compared to Southampton now is a million miles apart... any investor can get us at a snippet and spend on us how he/she wants to to mould the club how they want it to run. Southampton you'd be paying £150m more to buy it than us right now... why would you spend that when you could get us cheap, and spend less then the price of Southampton to get us back to where they are. If Southampton are that much of a proposition, why has no one tried to buy them? Investors preferred Bournemouth instead... Not having it that they are bigger than us, it's equal if anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howardroark Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, JJ10 said: Howard, Are we still only expecting some sort of announcement next Monday? Or is there a possibility Ken signs off before / on payday at the end of this week and they announce then? Do we think the whole who pays the wages argument will be avoided like last month? Anything KA puts in to the club at this point he wants back out, exactly same with Basran deal. I don’t imagine KA will want to pay out, but if he’s certain to recover it then I think he will pay. That’s the difference to last time, he wasn’t convinced of the funding of Basran Group and so held on and on whilst they tried to get the funding in place, when it became evident that this wasn’t going to happen, he paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 50 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Bums on seats not as important as TV money. Not outside the premiership Our crowds kept good in league one think season tickets was the same as previously however imagine not getting promotion they would tail off which goes back to my previous comment on Southampton in league one they was packing far more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Howard, I am confused as not read all the thread, do you claim to know who the buyers are ? There was an earlier post when you confirmed UK based, but was not sure if you were confirming the definition or the fact that the buyers are UK based. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter HomerJay Posted March 25, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted March 25, 2019 35 minutes ago, darrener said: To get more TV money we need to have a product that's worth watching which means a better brand of football, we don't want to watch the current shite so why would anyone else want to? really? id like to see the tv stats behind the "lesser" clubs in the prem. then see if their "brand" of football makes any difference to number of showings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkonion Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said: Is there any debt at Southampton? Just had a quick look and it appears that while they made a profit of £46 million in 2016-27 they still have debt but it isn't clear how much. Interestingly the current major stake-holder is rumoured to have paid £210 million in, I think, 2017 for an 80% stake. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/16100297.amp/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowball Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Jeez another pointless discussion wtf have Southampton got to do with our situation? (Other than giving us hope as they were in financial shit not that long ago)I realise some on here are obssessed with crowd numbers but in the premier it doesnt really matter. Look at Bournemouth or Fulham or a good few others. The tv money isnt allocated by bums on seats Praying we find out something positive soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkonion Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, snowball said: Jeez another pointless discussion wtf have Southampton got to do with our situation? (Other than giving us hope as they were in financial shit not that long ago)I realise some on here are obssessed with crowd numbers but in the premier it doesnt really matter. Look at Bournemouth or Fulham or a good few others. The tv money isnt allocated by bums on seats Praying we find out something positive soon Because H said that investors may prefer to buy Southampton rather than us.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Port vale in bother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, gonzo said: Port vale in bother Not sure what you are gettin at here gonch....Ken’s a cunt and the only cunt in football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger_Dubuis Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 The main reason Soton are where they are in the table compared to us is not because Hampshire is wealthier than Gtr Manchester but because their recent owners have been far more competent at selling their best players than Eddie/Garty and Ken have been.At the 2017 FA Cup Final between London giants Arsenal and Chelsea 3 of the 8 defenders that started match were ex Bolton players.Bolton received under £10 million combined for those 3 players. Compare with Southampton who have sold five players to Liverpool for £150 million in the last few seasons, Liverpool who have won nowt for 7 years so its not like Soton have had far better quality to sell. Going back 11 years Bolton sold Chelsea an established ,world class striker (Anelka) for less money than Blackburn got for David Bentley.The men in the boardroom have to do better than that for Bolton to compete with the likes of Soton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ10 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 14 hours ago, Howardroark said: And again the most important point is that net worth isn’t indicative of the amount to be spent on the club. Although somewhat irrelevant like you say, do you have any idea of the net worth of these buyers Howard? (out of interest) Billions as suggested or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Owner of Malaga now doing the rounds ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarence Carter Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, gonzo said: Owner of Malaga now doing the rounds ... https://footballfoyer.com/2018/04/26/malaga-relegation-poor-ownership/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieb Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 10 minutes ago, gonzo said: Owner of Malaga now doing the rounds ... Qatari sheikh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okocha10 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Where do people make the stories up one minute it's Fenerbache owner, now next Malaga owner. Who ever next! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyjoojar Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 25 minutes ago, gonzo said: Owner of Malaga now doing the rounds ... Weren't we "told" the buyer was UK based? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 21 minutes ago, Okocha10 said: Where do people make the stories up one minute it's Fenerbache owner, now next Malaga owner. Who ever next! Beckham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okocha10 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Beckham Well he is UK based most of the time & does supposedly own another team..... haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted March 25, 2019 Moderators Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Roger_Dubuis said: The main reason Soton are where they are in the table compared to us is not because Hampshire is wealthier than Gtr Manchester but because their recent owners have been far more competent at selling their best players than Eddie/Garty and Ken have been.At the 2017 FA Cup Final between London giants Arsenal and Chelsea 3 of the 8 defenders that started match were ex Bolton players.Bolton received under £10 million combined for those 3 players. Compare with Southampton who have sold five players to Liverpool for £150 million in the last few seasons, Liverpool who have won nowt for 7 years so its not like Soton have had far better quality to sell. Going back 11 years Bolton sold Chelsea an established ,world class striker (Anelka) for less money than Blackburn got for David Bentley.The men in the boardroom have to do better than that for Bolton to compete with the likes of Soton going busta couple of times didnt hurt them, either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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