Underpants Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 No problem with it. Colourful and fun. But the outrageous campness of some is something I struggle with. When some bloke is bouncing around glittered up and wearing nothing other than a cheese wire thong in front of watching family's, I wonder if it's really acceptable? Is it fun exhibitionism by carefree souls? Or something bordering on tasteless and far away from what the march was originally about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Underpants said: No problem with it. Colourful and fun. But the outrageous campness of some is something I struggle with. When some bloke is bouncing around glittered up and wearing nothing other than a cheese wire thong in front of watching family's, I wonder if it's really acceptable? Is it fun exhibitionism by carefree souls? Or something bordering on tasteless and far away from what the march was originally about? Like Trade Unions, is the job/ the fight now won? Has it become just another excuse for a piss up and for do-Gooders to prove their rightonness? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted July 7, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted July 7, 2019 Leave them to it as long as they're not hurting anyone. If you're worried about your kids being exposed to semi-naked people, don't take them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Cheese said: Leave them to it as long as they're not hurting anyone. If you're worried about your kids being exposed to semi-naked people, don't take them. I agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widnes Two Hats Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Who gives a shit that somebody is queer, why do you need the need to have a march, it's 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted July 7, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted July 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, Widnes Two Hats said: Who gives a shit that somebody is queer, why do you need the need to have a march, it's 2019 You'd have to ask someone who's 'queer' for a proper answer. I'm guessing they'd cite examples of discrimination they're still subjected to on a daily basis, in 2019. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widnes Two Hats Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 there's no discrimation anymore, nobody gives a shit. Imagine a straight march, it's a complete waste of time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted July 7, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted July 7, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Widnes Two Hats said: there's no discrimation anymore, nobody gives a shit. Imagine a straight march, it's a complete waste of time Don't waste your time then. Just don't go. "There's no discrimination any more"? What are you basing that on? Edited July 7, 2019 by Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widnes Two Hats Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 I'm not, although I have been to loads in the past, I think it's a great day out in Manchester, there's just no need for it, have a jolly boys weekend or something And my comments about discrimination is based on nobody gives a shit, not anybody I know do you know anybody who is anti gay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted July 7, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted July 7, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Widnes Two Hats said: I'm not, although I have been to loads in the past, I think it's a great day out in Manchester, there's just no need for it, have a jolly boys weekend or something And my comments about discrimination is based on nobody gives a shit, not anybody I know do you know anybody who is anti gay? Yes. Nobody I hold in much regard though, thankfully. Unless you're part of that community, you're not really in a position to say "there's no need for it". Just leave them to it. What's the problem? Edited July 7, 2019 by Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widnes Two Hats Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 I've got loads of friends who are bandits, I don't treat them any different than anyone else I know and they don't treat me any different because I am a hetty, I'd choose your friends carefully Cheese, but the majority or the country are with me, i.e. they don't give a shit therefore no need for pride. If anything the people on the march are asking to be treated differently because they are gay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted July 7, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted July 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Widnes Two Hats said: I've got loads of friends who are bandits, I don't treat them any different than anyone else I know and they don't treat me any different because I am a hetty, I'd choose your friends carefully Cheese, but the majority or the country are with me, i.e. they don't give a shit therefore no need for pride. If anything the people on the march are asking to be treated differently because they are gay I really don't understand what you're getting at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widnes Two Hats Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 There is no need for pride as I initially said, nobody gives a shit if your gay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted July 7, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted July 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Widnes Two Hats said: There is no need for pride as I initially said, nobody gives a shit if your gay You keep saying that, but some people do. Some people in prominent positions of power do. Our government is propped up by a party that openly expresses homophobic views. Maybe you should go to a pride march and tell them they're wasting their time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widnes Two Hats Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 I don't know of anybody in the government that has homophobic views, can you site these? if so I will concede Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted July 7, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted July 7, 2019 Just now, Widnes Two Hats said: I don't know of anybody in the government that has homophobic views, can you site these? if so I will concede You've never heard of The DUP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Faustus Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 1 hour ago, boltondiver said: Like Trade Unions, is the job/ the fight now won? No Trade Unions represent individuals and multitudes. Can't say everything is rosy for everyone for evermore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol_BWFC Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Miami loves London marches. I assume he was there in his rainbow chaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Our lass’s cousin is a gayer. But not one of these outrageous ones. He says he goes in gay bars and on a regular basis they are harassed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Why do gay folk feel the need to display their sexuality on the streets? I’d feel uncomfortable taking my child to such an event, not sure why councils feel the need to promote it either, and if public money is spent on these types of events I’m also not in favour. No issue with any folk of any sexual persuasion but just do not see the need for any such events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted July 7, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted July 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said: Why do gay folk feel the need to display their sexuality on the streets? I’d feel uncomfortable taking my child to such an event, not sure why councils feel the need to promote it either, and if public money is spent on these types of events I’m also not in favour. No issue with any folk of any sexual persuasion but just do not see the need for any such events. Don't go then. That's your personal problem solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, Cheese said: Don't go then. That's your personal problem solved. I think there is an issue. I do see how people get offended by the actions of a small minority. This increases the likelihood of the majority getting shit. It is ok saying do not go there then. But that attitude again fuels the haters. ‘If a heterosexual couple were so extreme it would not be tolerated’. And they are probably right. Public decency is the same no matter who is watching or how is acting out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Ani said: I think there is an issue. I do see how people get offended by the actions of a small minority. This increases the likelihood of the majority getting shit. It is ok saying do not go there then. But that attitude again fuels the haters. ‘If a heterosexual couple were so extreme it would not be tolerated’. And they are probably right. Public decency is the same no matter who is watching or how is acting out. 100% correct. Any lewd behaviour by any sexual persuasion should result in police intervention, doubt that happens at gay pride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted July 7, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted July 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: 100% correct. Any lewd behaviour by any sexual persuasion should result in police intervention, doubt that happens at gay pride. What lewd behaviour have you witnessed at a gay pride march? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Cheese said: What lewd behaviour have you witnessed at a gay pride march? Only what I’ve seen on video footage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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