Slow news day? The real deal? End of the world? 
 

They’re saying it probably came from an animal, has Somebody been shagging monkeys again? 

3 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

2m/week for the 20m vulnerable, so 10 weeks

 

Fingers crossed

I'd be pleasantly amazed if we're anywhere near that mate!

Just now, Escobarp said:

Not wanting to be a damp squib but if anyone thinks we are gonna be in a position to be back to normal or even on a path to that before summer then get your head, place a hand on each side of it and give it a gentle wobble. 
 

I hope I’m wrong 

You will be

IF

we approve AZ

Just now, Casino said:

You will be

IF

we approve AZ

And that’s where my hope Is firmly placed because I’m sick to death of it all now. 

1 minute ago, jmjhb said:

I'd be pleasantly amazed if we're anywhere near that mate!

Me too!

3 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Not wanting to be a damp squib but if anyone thinks we are gonna be in a position to be back to normal or even on a path to that before summer then get your head, place a hand on each side of it and give it a gentle wobble. 
 

I hope I’m wrong 

If we can get 15m vaccinated then 99% of the risk goes 

That would take 12 weeks in a normal year, if we can increase the number of injections per week 2 fold then it should be done by March 

If we aren’t all in Tier 1 or 2 by mid February I will be very disappointed 

Morecambe game postponed

#Rife

Just now, birch-chorley said:

If we can get 15m vaccinated then 99% of the risk goes 

That would take 12 weeks in a normal year, if we can increase the number of injections per week 2 fold then it should be done by March 

If we aren’t all in Tier 1 or 2 by mid February I will be very disappointed 

I think you are going to be terribly disappointed. That’s 6/7 weeks away? 

45 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Based on some of the stories on here about Xmas rules then I think 50k a day will be smashed comfortably if the rest of society “interpreted” the rules in the same 2+3+4+7+3+8= 3 households manner 

Tbh I don’t think so in general. I don’t think that we broke the rules here. It was 3 at my brothers (2 if you count my mum as being in my brothers bubble) and 3 here as my stepdaughter is in our bubble. But it’s too confusing and some folk will have deliberately interpreted the rules to suit and some unwittingly 

Biggest thing for me is the supermarkets. Nipped to Tesco and Aldi today. It’s almost like pre Covid. No limit on folk entering, nobody wiping trollies or baskets down, and folk crammed into the aisles and self-checkout areas.

And the pictures from The Trafford Centre the last couple of days......

Should caveat that with Ive been told to expect to be locked down/under restrictions until easter up here 

43 minutes ago, Spider said:

No evidence either way.

The reading up I’ve done (and it’s limited so pinch of salt) suggests that most mutations are less harmful to the host but just want to be able to spread more effectively. As has been mentioned on here a few times, a virus isn’t doing itself much good by killing its host.

I guess they can’t risk it.

Its rattling through the Man City squad currently, I reckon it’s rife.

Even if has the same virility, the increased cases means more deaths. 

2 minutes ago, birch-chorley said:

If we can get 15m vaccinated then 99% of the risk goes 

That would take 12 weeks in a normal year, if we can increase the number of injections per week 2 fold then it should be done by March 

If we aren’t all in Tier 1 or 2 by mid February I will be very disappointed 

We still don’t know who’s going to be giving the Oxford vaccine but you’d assume it’s likely to be people from the medical profession. But just this afternoon we’ve had the head of Public Health England telling us that the NHS is pretty much at breaking point.

Aye them pics/videos I’ve seen of the Trafford centre good grief 

Just now, jmjhb said:

I'd be pleasantly amazed if we're anywhere near that mate!

A bolton practice recently opened on a saturday, just to do flu vax

They did 400 in a day...about 6 hours

Covid would take longer as you have to sign consent forms with a medic

Another issue at the moment is lots of surgeries arent giving the vaccine, as they cant guarantee to dish out 900 in 3 days

AZ, they will all be on it

21 minutes ago, birch-chorley said:

Appreciate that you have inside info 

But I still can’t help being thoroughly pissed off with it all, a few weeks a go we were swinging our dicks in peoples faces that we were first to approve the vaccine. The plan then was 1m a week with 5m injections this year, so far we aren’t even at 1m 

So something has gone drastically wrong since then for them to be so far off what they said, it’s a fucking shit show yet again!

We are talking about fucking up millions of lives with further lock downs, making even more people unemployed, it’s bollocks. I’d rather the NHS collapse in all honesty, fuck it, times up for me 

Iirc, it was said 4m doses would be delivered this year. Then there was word about manufacturing problems. Can't inject it faster than it is made.

3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Even if has the same virility, the increased cases means more deaths. 

And if it has 10% its lots less deaths

5 minutes ago, Casino said:

A bolton practice recently opened on a saturday, just to do flu vax

They did 400 in a day...about 6 hours

Covid would take longer as you have to sign consent forms with a medic

Another issue at the moment is lots of surgeries arent giving the vaccine, as they cant guarantee to dish out 900 in 3 days

AZ, they will all be on it

Very interesting. Let's hope the uptake is good.

I said a few posts above but will expand a little - a GP in Preston was saying that the uptake was very low amongst BAME elders

Edited December 28, 20205 yr by jmjhb

Just now, Casino said:

And if it has 10% its lots less deaths

No evidence of that yet though is there. 

1 hour ago, birch-chorley said:

More importantly, where are they up to with the vaccine? 

Only need to get 5m done and 50% of the risk goes 

So 50k cases a day has the same impact on the NHS as 25k cases a day had a few weeks back 

Along with all the so far unused nightingales, extra ventilators etc - We shouldn’t be facing an NHS collapse in January / February 

We've so far managed 600K in just short of 3 weeks haven't we?

1 minute ago, Sweep said:

We've so far managed 600K in just short of 3 weeks haven't we?

But we will be in tier 1 by feb 👍🏼

11 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Iirc, it was said 4m doses would be delivered this year. Then there was word about manufacturing problems. Can't inject it faster than it is made.

Of course you can’t, but the bottle neck isn’t getting it in the country, as Casino has said it’s complexity after that. GP’s surgeries worrying they might not get through a whole 900 injections, fucking about with consent forms ffs 

I wonder how many of the millions of people who have lost their jobs signed a consent form for that? 

Its bollocks 

Edited December 28, 20205 yr by birch-chorley

3 minutes ago, Sweep said:

We've so far managed 600K in just short of 3 weeks haven't we?

The AZ is different gravy

1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

No evidence of that yet though is there. 

Theres no evidence that its worse, same or better

It wouldnt be a shock to discover this mutation has weakened the virus

Id be much more surprised if its gone the other way

Ideally we get some figures to show whether deaths are from the known mutation

59 minutes ago, Casino said:

But does it kill folk

Talk in some places that its a fast spreader but not as nasty

I've read its faster meaning more people need treatment so hospitals fill up quicker 

And when that happens, more people die covid or otherwise

2 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

The AZ is different gravy

I prefer anis analogy

He was spot on

We are going from michelin stars to mcdonalds

1 minute ago, birch-chorley said:

Of course you can’t, but the bottle neck isn’t getting it in the country, as Casino has said it’s complexity after that. GP’s surgeries worrying they might not get through a whole 900 injections, pudding about with consent forms ffs 

I wonder how many of the millions of people who have lost their jobs signed a consent form for that? 

Its bollocks 

No its not.

I posted a good while back about the hoops that have to be gone through. It isnt as simple as you make it out.

Hundreds, if not thousands of new low temp freezers had to be made. Then the mhra impose their own rules which restrict how its it transported and used.

Now there's a new variant, which infecting more people including nhs staff.