Slow news day? The real deal? End of the world? 
 

They’re saying it probably came from an animal, has Somebody been shagging monkeys again? 

10 hours ago, mickbrown said:

We manage to get millions of folk voting in one day.

Said it before, set up all polling stations as a vaccination station for a week. Most dead local and most folk can walk to one.

Sorted. Piece of piss.😃

 

 

Did you see the bellends queuing up at mcdonalds? It would be a free for all. 

1 hour ago, Horwich said:

Did you see the bellends queuing up at mcdonalds? It would be a free for all. 

Stick the vaccine in Mc nuggets and we will be sorted by Jan. 

Seen a bit on twitter today about these Nightingale hospitals being dismantled quietly without being used , what a waste of 220 million quid they were.

2 minutes ago, burnden said:

Seen a bit on twitter today about these Nightingale hospitals being dismantled quietly without being used , what a waste of 220 million quid they were.

I thought the london one was being used?

Either way, it presumably can only be for two reasons

We dont need them

We cant staff em

If its the latter, yet more waste

If its the former....

3 minutes ago, Casino said:

I thought the london one was being used?

Either way, it presumably can only be for two reasons

We dont need them

We cant staff em

If its the latter, yet more waste

If its the former....

appears to be the latter

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/nhs-nightingale-hospitals-coronavirus-cases-b1779763.html

 

Pretty sure one or two of us asked the question, whats the point, when they were going up

Another shocking waste of money

If we had needed them and they hadn’t been built I can picture the post from you now 

1 minute ago, Escobarp said:

If we had needed them and they hadn’t been built I can picture the post from you now 

We dont have the staff

It was utterly fucking pointless

I can’t be arsed searching but there is a post from one poster at least (not casino I don’t think) criticising them for not having enough ventilators and then at a later date criticising them for wasting money on ventilators. Sums it all up in a nutshell really 

Edited December 29, 20205 yr by Escobarp

Just now, Casino said:

We dont have the staff

It was utterly fucking pointless

Were the army not to man them? And then to be for respite care more than anything? 
 

im not saying they were a good idea btw. But hindsight again is a wonderful tool. 

£220m seems a snip of a risk to throw up some hospitals, whether they could be staffed or not, compared to £12b on the track and trace

2 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Were the army not to man them? And then to be for respite care more than anything? 
 

im not saying they were a good idea btw. But hindsight again is a wonderful tool. 

Have we not got an army any more?

 

2 minutes ago, Rudy said:

£220m seems a snip of a risk to throw up some hospitals, whether they could be staffed or not, compared to £12b on the track and trace

Well, yeah

But just because weve spunked 12b doesnt mean its right to keep wasting more and more

At least a blackburn company got the contract for the furniture

1 minute ago, Casino said:

Have we not got an army any more?

 

You’re confusing me. If they weren’t needed why do we need to staff them anyway? Which was the initial point.  but you’ve then just flagged another issue that we didn’t have the staff so I pointed out that the army could have done but if we didn’t need them anyway we could have the smallest or biggest army in the world to staff or not staff them it wouldn’t make a jot or difference. 
My head hurts 

 

Just now, Escobarp said:

You’re confusing me. If they weren’t needed why do we need to staff them anyway? Which was the initial point.  but you’ve then just flagged another issue that we didn’t have the staff so I pointed out that the army could have done but if we didn’t need them anyway we could have the smallest or biggest army in the world to staff or not staff them it wouldn’t make a jot or difference. 
My head hurts 

 

Ill go slowly

Seemingly, in an ideal world, they would be staffed and up and running

So

 

Govt..we are building some pop up hospitals to come with the high demand

Thick fucker on wways...smashing, but we havent got the staff to run them

Govt..we will use the army

Tfoww...okey cokey, you know best

Govt...theres a big spike but we are shutting the nightingales

Tfoww...okey cokey you know best

 

 

4 minutes ago, Casino said:

Ill go slowly

Seemingly, in an ideal world, they would be staffed and up and running

So

 

Govt..we are building some pop up hospitals to come with the high demand

Thick fucker on wways...smashing, but we havent got the staff to run them

Govt..we will use the army

Tfoww...okey cokey, you know best

Govt...theres a big spike but we are shutting the nightingales

Tfoww...okey cokey you know best

 

 

I will go even more slowly

what a waste of money building the nightingales as we didn’t need them!

but we didn’t know we didn’t need them ?

but we couldn’t staff them anyway ?

Was the army not to staff them ?

do we not have an army anymore?

but we didn’t need them so the point about staffing them was a moot one and we could’ve staffed then as you’ve just confirmed we have an army still?

 

anyway it’s too early for roundabouts. Enjoy the drinking. Maybe lay off the stronger stuff 

I think we built them before we realised the army didn't have the end-of-life medical training that would be required

mate of mine is a dentist and he was on standby to work in the Manchester one to some capacity, if required

I’m just glad they’ve not been needed tbh 

15 hours ago, birch-chorley said:

@ZicoKelly

I think the Australia followed a similar path to many of the Asian countries, stopping incoming flights early doors so the problem was only a small on to begin with (think the likes of Taiwan did this even better) 

just on that, we were both on 700ish cases a day July/August

that was their second peak

that's when we were opening up again

25 minutes ago, jmjhb said:

I think we built them before we realised the army didn't have the end-of-life medical training that would be required

But thats the point

When you're making the decision to build new hospitals, you surely ask yourself what you will need

So, you (hopefully) realise you need nurses

We know there's a shortage after all

When somebody chips in, we can use the army, is that it?

Or does somebody ask the army if the idea has merit

Maybe its just me, but it seems an obvious question

27 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

I’m just glad they’ve not been needed tbh 

They have been needed. 

Mrs Swanny ass sent home earlier ygam she should have been resulting in her needing readmiting. She doesn't have covid now but shes struggling to get back on her feet.

Company that delivers home use oxygen is rushed off their feet. But they need the beds . 

 

It may have been possible to staff them partially, with army help etc, if so many of them weren't off sick with covid.

Guess we'll never know.

Tier 5 incoming

From what I’ve heard the problem has been so many staff either suffering from Covid or isolating and it’s left them with not enough trained staff to man them. Could be wrong mind.

Not quite as easy as substituting with army, etc. The bloke who works for me and does part time A&E nursing said you need trained staff in case patients need intubating, etc