Coronavirus

[athywhite1958]

16 minutes ago, MancWanderer said:

Really sorry to hear that Jules. Much as I tend to ignore what Sikora has to say, due to his conflicts of interest, he is correct, as are you, that there will be many folk who have died,, and who will die, due to being a victim of Covid 

Unfortunately, the NHS is really caught between the devil and the deep blue sea on this one, and there are justifications, depending on what cancer you have 

Bloke who works for me had colon cancer years ago. Had some symptoms again a few months ago and has just completed 4 courses of chemo tablets. All taken at home in a safe environment

MiL had chemo for multiple myeloma on and off for 10 years but this was done via an infusion through a port in her shoulder. No way could that be done at home. This required a full day sat in Royal Oldham Hospital. She was due to start again early 2020 but the consultant said that it was too risky to have her in the hospital. No idea if you know but chemo obliterates your immune system. You have no response to infection and viruses basically. Hospitals are the best place in the world to pick anything up. Anyway, I won’t repeat the whole story again but she was admitted with pneumonia, caught Covid on the ward and was gone in less than a week

My point basically is it’s probably better to do without the chemo and not catch Covid and I totally understand why some hospitals take that stance. But it’s fucking horrendous for patients and families. I get that totally 

I had regular chemo sessions (every 2 weeks at first then 3 weekly) from March until October at Salford Royal, no delays or hint of cancelling it

[MancWanderer]

34 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said:

I had regular chemo sessions (every 2 weeks at first then 3 weekly) from March until October at Salford Royal, no delays or hint of cancelling it

Yeah. Some hospitals have the capability. Bigger places like Salford Royal are fine. It’s a struggle for the smaller hospitals like Oldham, Bury, and the like. Other side of the company that I work for deals with chemo. Sales have gone through the floor. Like I say it’s a choice that the hospitals have to make. Bring vulnerable patients in and they catch Covid and they are panned. Cancel chemo because of the risk and they get panned. They can’t win. It’s horrendous for all

Edit: Hope all is going well for you. Really feel for folk like you at this time 👍

Edited January 1, 2021 by MancWanderer

[mickbrown]

Just been looking on our local GP website.

10th of December they said they'd be getting in touch with those over 80 to arrange vaccinations. Just looked again and they are staring on the 9th Jan. 

Taken a month. Hardly a sense of urgency. Bit dogshite really.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 minute ago, mickbrown said:

Just been looking on our local GP website.

10th of December they said they'd be getting in touch with those over 80 to arrange vaccinations. Just looked again and they are staring on the 9th Jan. 

Taken a month. Hardly a sense of urgency. Bit dogshite really.

Just don't think there's enough of this Pfizer one.

I also know of one who's heard nothing.

Hopefully this will change now AZ is available. 

[mickbrown]

2 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Just don't think there's enough of this Pfizer one.

I also know of one who's heard nothing.

Hopefully this will change now AZ is available. 

Aye, makes sense

That's maybe why it's kicking in from 9th Jan? 

[Casino]

1 minute ago, mickbrown said:

Aye, makes sense

That's maybe why it's kicking in from 9th Jan? 

The problem is that the Pfizer vac is very complicated

Most GPS aren't able/willing, for a variety of reasons, to administer it

Its not the govts fault, nor is it the NHS

[Guest]

The Unions trying to close schools again

[MancWanderer]

1 minute ago, Casino said:

The problem is that the Pfizer vac is very complicated

Most GPS aren't able/willing, for a variety of reasons, to administer it

Its not the govts fault, nor is it the NHS

Yep. Just got off the phone to my mum. She’s approaching 84. Was told by Waters Meeting that she would be priority but heard nowt since

You’ll no better than me but I assume it’s the storage, the preparation, then having it all lined up ready to go. And then assuming that folk turn up when required? And if it doesn’t happen right the GP’s get pasted for it 

Too much to go wrong? AZ one looks a lot simpler imo

[Winchester White]

23 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

The Unions trying to close schools again

To be fair, they are right on this occasion. Come on, just get the fucker under control for another week or two surely?

[Casino]

35 minutes ago, MancWanderer said:

Yep. Just got off the phone to my mum. She’s approaching 84. Was told by Waters Meeting that she would be priority but heard nowt since

You’ll no better than me but I assume it’s the storage, the preparation, then having it all lined up ready to go. And then assuming that folk turn up when required? And if it doesn’t happen right the GP’s get pasted for it 

Too much to go wrong? AZ one looks a lot simpler imo

Ill pm you

[athywhite1958]

My daughter - a nurse - is booked in to have her vax on Tuesday

[Guest]

23 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

To be fair, they are right on this occasion. Come on, just get the fucker under control for another week or two surely?

For me, it’s political 

Keep the schools closed, get this years exams cancelled, parents having to stay at home, more uncertainty, undermine the Government.

The usual playbook 

[athywhite1958]

1 hour ago, MancWanderer said:

Yeah. Some hospitals have the capability. Bigger places like Salford Royal are fine. It’s a struggle for the smaller hospitals like Oldham, Bury, and the like. Other side of the company that I work for deals with chemo. Sales have gone through the floor. Like I say it’s a choice that the hospitals have to make. Bring vulnerable patients in and they catch Covid and they are panned. Cancel chemo because of the risk and they get panned. They can’t win. It’s horrendous for all

Edit: Hope all is going well for you. Really feel for folk like you at this time 👍

Conversely I was booked in the Christie at Wigan for a PET scan last Monday, when I got there they said they couldn't do it and would rearrange for me which incidentally is next Tuesday, this scan will tell me whether I'm all clear or not so I was hoping for a good Christmas present

[Casino]

3 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

For me, it’s political 

Keep the schools closed, get this years exams cancelled, parents having to stay at home, more uncertainty, undermine the Government.

The usual playbook 

Youre getting paranoid matey

[jules_darby]

3 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said:

Conversely I was booked in the Christie at Wigan for a PET scan last Monday, when I got there they said they couldn't do it and would rearrange for me which incidentally is next Tuesday, this scan will tell me whether I'm all clear or not so I was hoping for a good Christmas present

Beat of luck pal 🙌🏼

[mickbrown]

1 minute ago, Casino said:

Youre getting paranoid matey

Aye that's moonman sort of shite that is.

[athywhite1958]

Thanks Jules, be reet

[MancWanderer]

34 minutes ago, Casino said:

Ill pm you

Replied mate

[MancWanderer]

23 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said:

Conversely I was booked in the Christie at Wigan for a PET scan last Monday, when I got there they said they couldn't do it and would rearrange for me which incidentally is next Tuesday, this scan will tell me whether I'm all clear or not so I was hoping for a good Christmas present

Hope it’s a New Year present for you!!! MiL was under The Christie at Oldham. They are superb

[Winchester White]

45 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

For me, it’s political 

Keep the schools closed, get this years exams cancelled, parents having to stay at home, more uncertainty, undermine the Government.

The usual playbook 

Not sure, this goes beyond party politics 

[Jol_BWFC]

21 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

Not sure, this goes beyond party politics 

I blame George Soros.

[mickbrown]

Why are we fucking about like this? We're even going to balls this up aren't we?

 

 

[Youri McAnespie]

15 hours ago, boltondiver said:

Sounds like our bureaucracy is getting in the way

Let's have a referendum to leave the UK - free us from the shackles of a dictatorship of faceless elected Westminster bureaucrats...

[Youri McAnespie]

13 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Which is fair enough and quite right . Not sure some of training/approvals are necessary though.

Conflict resolution? Bonkers.

In most public service roles you will regularly encounter total bellends who are often on the verge of, if not actually - violent/confrontational.

The recipient of this treatment will react in a spectrum of ways - from being extremely intimidated/scared to be weighing up when and how they're going to muller them (the bellend).

Conflict resolution training does help. It's done and dusted in a long morning...

Half of compulsory training is due to compo culture/liability issues - not some 'bureaucrat' dreaming up ways to waste time and resources.

 

[Youri McAnespie]

11 hours ago, Spider said:

I’d be interested in having a look up my arsehole just to see if it’s true what they say about red meat lingering.

 

By 'they' do you mean Detective Billy Rosewood? 😀