Coronavirus

[Traf]

Xmas holiday is pretty much set as is. Kids should have 2 weeks off then as is.

We should then rebuild the calendar around that fixed break and split the remaining 14 weeks off throughout the year in a more even distribution. 

Set aside a week around Easter, plus a week for bank holidays and four in "summer" and then you've just 8 weeks to spread through the year.

[desperado]

1 hour ago, London Wanderer said:

I wouldn't be opposed to this. Or to keeping it at 4 weeks in the summer from now on. Makes sense to spread that time out.

 

3 minutes ago, MickyD said:

Indeed. The country trying to be flexible doesn’t need the teaching profession claiming things are unchangable.
 

 

As a teacher I agree with @London Wanderer. It does make sense to change and I think you’d find most teachers agreeing. 
 

“Teaching profession claiming things are unchangable” seems wide of the mark to me.

Like many industries and working procedures, the teaching profession has had to change dramatically this last 12 months.

[MickyD]

The words of one of the other teachers on here,  not mine. 

[only1swanny]

2 minutes ago, MickyD said:

The words of one of the other teachers on here,  not mine. 

Believe me, I'd rather be in work with classes..and the idea to share the holidays out throughout the year would be brilliant. 13 weeks off, well that's a week off a month with 2 weeks at xmas.. I'd love that!

 

[Horwich]

The kids have been happy enough to leave the house for essential snow ball play. Send them to school.

[only1swanny]

1 hour ago, kent_white said:

Those basic masks are medical grade. You only need to wear the FFP3 ones if you're doing an aerosol generating procedure.

Out of interest- how do you know she caught it from the nurse?

Hope your Mrs is ok by the way! 

One if the ward staff had to explain to the patients,  think it was about 16 on the ward caught it, and they were told it was from a member of staff, the only one absent was a nurse, who was apparently asymptomatic.  She had been in for about 6 days by that point and had 4 negative tests previously. One if the hospital board members was in the paper a few days later saying there are no proven transmissions in hospital which was clearly a blatant lie. 

One if the worst moments, having your wife, who is in hospital with breathing problems,  ring you to say she's caught covid.  Picked her up about 3 weeks later and the HCA who wheeled her out said she was lucky to still be here. She was readmitted on xmas day with breathing problems which are associated with long covid. Before she had to go back in, she was on oxygen just to move around and we have 4 large air purifiers which run about half the day. 

Those medical grade masks must be better than we get, and they're still not 100%. 

We get the sum I'd bugger all PPE, told to buy our own non disposable masks.  I'm medically exempt from wearing one due to a few issues, I still do though as it doesn't feel safe enough to not wear one.. I just have to battle through it. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 hours ago, Traf said:

Last minute decisions have been a constant failing of this govt throughout the pandemic.

We came home from holiday on 29th December, so we could do 5-day isolation, retest and release so that Junior could go to school next week. They must have known they were pushing her return back by a week, we could have stayed in Lanzarote where we felt much safer (just 42 active cases on the island and none in hospital)

I'm happy for last minute changes, if the science and data justifies it.

The data suggests Evatt could do with a bit of a change but he won't!

 

[mickbrown]

Want to keep schools open?

Vaccinate all teacher and kids next couple of weeks then.

 

[MickyD]

2 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Want to keep schools open?

Vaccinate all teacher and kids next couple of weeks then.

 

Got to admit, I’m very much in favour of starting with essential workforce and then younger to older.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Want to keep schools open?

Vaccinate all teacher and kids next couple of weeks then.

 

Still have to wait a further 2 or 3 weeks for immunity to develop, but certainly a consideration. 

[kent_white]

31 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

One if the ward staff had to explain to the patients,  think it was about 16 on the ward caught it, and they were told it was from a member of staff, the only one absent was a nurse, who was apparently asymptomatic.  She had been in for about 6 days by that point and had 4 negative tests previously. One if the hospital board members was in the paper a few days later saying there are no proven transmissions in hospital which was clearly a blatant lie. 

One if the worst moments, having your wife, who is in hospital with breathing problems,  ring you to say she's caught covid.  Picked her up about 3 weeks later and the HCA who wheeled her out said she was lucky to still be here. She was readmitted on xmas day with breathing problems which are associated with long covid. Before she had to go back in, she was on oxygen just to move around and we have 4 large air purifiers which run about half the day. 

Those medical grade masks must be better than we get, and they're still not 100%. 

We get the sum I'd bugger all PPE, told to buy our own non disposable masks.  I'm medically exempt from wearing one due to a few issues, I still do though as it doesn't feel safe enough to not wear one.. I just have to battle through it. 

Sounds rough that mate. Sorry to hear your Mrs has been so unwell with it. That HCA should have known better though! Daft off the cuff remarks like that can do a lot of damage. 

Was this at RBH by the way?

[only1swanny]

1 minute ago, kent_white said:

Sounds rough that mate. Sorry to hear your Mrs has been so unwell with it. That HCA should have known better though! Daft off the cuff remarks like that can do a lot of damage. 

Was this at RBH by the way?

Yup RBH.

HCA didnt do anything wrong, aye had it rough in there and she was glad she made it out.  

[Spider]

4 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

Unfortunately for you its bang on correct. It's called an academic year, its planned 12 months in advance, sometimes longer for exams.

Is closure for a pandemic planned 12 months in advance?

You like Brexit, pretty sure you’ve banged the drum of adaptability at the last minute?

We’re all in this together. It’s affected each and every one of us.

Re-plan the year.

[Boby Brno]

On 02/01/2021 at 00:27, mickbrown said:

Why are we fucking about like this? We're even going to balls this up aren't we?

 

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-55519042

[Guest]

27 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Want to keep schools open?

Vaccinate all teacher and kids next couple of weeks then.

 

Kids?

give me a break

Teachers? Absolutely 

[mickbrown]

7 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Kids?

give me a break

Teachers? Absolutely 

You got school age kids?

Just in case you missed the question earlier.

[mickbrown]

10 minutes ago, Boby Brno said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-55519042

Aye, read that earlier.

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

You got school age kids?

Just in case you missed the question earlier.

Apologies

no

[mickbrown]

1 minute ago, boltondiver said:

Apologies

no

Thought not....

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Thought not....

Happy to be persuaded.....

[mickbrown]

1 minute ago, boltondiver said:

Happy to be persuaded.....

To have kids?

Nah, you alright mate, I'll pass ta.

[kent_white]

35 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

Yup RBH.

HCA didnt do anything wrong, aye had it rough in there and she was glad she made it out.  

Was she on D4?

[only1swanny]

1 minute ago, Mr Grey said:

Why don't you write to all the Heads/principals of schools and colleges and see if they can re-plan. 

It may not seem complex to you, and I'm all for being adaptable and have been all the way through this pandemic, the only thing that's feasible is closing them down until these vaccinations are rolled out, then we are in to CAG territory again, and would you trust our Education Minister with that again.

Personally I would give vaccinations to the young/teenagers after the 80+ year olds, these are the spreaders.

Kids just turn up at school, teachers open a text book and pick what to teach them. Absolutely no planning, long term plans or employment law involved. 

Then they all go on the field and have a kick around whilst the PE teacher pretends he's Bobby Charlton..  All after oggling the fit PE teacher. 

That's education in the UK isn't it?

[Tombwfc]

There's no suggestion at the minute the vaccine will stop you from spreading it... which surely would be the point of vaccinating kids and teachers. Unless teachers are disproportionately becoming seriously ill.

But ultimately, all this back and forth is irrelevant. Boris has said that schools are safe and will remain open, therefore you can expect an announcement by Wednesday that he's shutting them.

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, Tombwfc said:

There's no suggestion at the minute the vaccine will stop you from spreading it... which surely would be the point of vaccinating kids and teachers. Unless teachers are disproportionately becoming seriously ill.

 

There you go

The point about vaxxing teachers is to make it an even more safe environment