Slow news day? The real deal? End of the world? 
 

They’re saying it probably came from an animal, has Somebody been shagging monkeys again? 

5 minutes ago, Boby Brno said:

‘Em’ 

Not sure who they are. The government, the NHS, the thousands of unpaid volunteers? 
If they’d missed it by the narrowest of margins, this forum would have been in meltdown. 
Having been jabbed, I have nothing but praise for the people involved in the process. From the yellow vested people marshalling the queue to the good lady giving the jab. 
 

There are sadly some on here that wanted us to miss the target we both know that. 

8 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Subservient wankers, no questioning of authority. This is exactly where we are going & what governments want. Sad really. 

Well, for me there has been far too much questioning. More folk doing as asked wouldn’t have gone amiss. Even if in time is shows that action a,b or c wasn't the best at the time, so many questioning tactics with no greater knowledge undermines the effort.

I really don't understand your stance: I've pointed out other examples before where the approach is far more authoritarian. Seems to have worked, numbers far fewer, and they've been able to reopen far sooner.

Its not just us neither, much of the western world has a libertarian system, and it is perhaps no coincidence that we've all suffered so much.

44 minutes ago, Ani said:

Passed 15m fair fucks to 'em  

Nothing but praise for everyone involved in this. What an amazing effort. My folks had their first jab last weekend. Was a great feeling to know that they had been done. 

6 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

There are sadly some on here that wanted us to miss the target we both know that. 

Name one.

14 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Name one.

You don’t make the rules son 

26 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

There are sadly some on here that wanted us to miss the target we both know that. 

Bullshit.

2 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Bullshit.

Bullshit.

34 minutes ago, Boby Brno said:

‘Em’ 

Not sure who they are. The government, the NHS, the thousands of unpaid volunteers? 
If they’d missed it by the narrowest of margins, this forum would have been in meltdown. 
Having been jabbed, I have nothing but praise for the people involved in the process. From the yellow vested people marshalling the queue to the good lady giving the jab. 
 

Em is everyone who has been involved. Who else could it mean ? 

Just now, Boby Brno said:

Bullshit.

Indeed

11 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Bullshit.

Entitled to your opinion same as I am 

Not sure why anyone would want less people to be vaccinated so I do think it is bullshit

I do think that some people expected them to fail and would have gloated

9 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Entitled to your opinion same as I am 

Of course. Doesn't alter the fact it's bullshit 👍

54 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Well, for me there has been far too much questioning. More folk doing as asked wouldn’t have gone amiss. Even if in time is shows that action a,b or c wasn't the best at the time, so many questioning tactics with no greater knowledge undermines the effort.

I really don't understand your stance: I've pointed out other examples before where the approach is far more authoritarian. Seems to have worked, numbers far fewer, and they've been able to reopen far sooner.

Its not just us neither, much of the western world has a libertarian system, and it is perhaps no coincidence that we've all suffered so much.

I think and fear I know the trajectory that we are travelling, and we are going to experience more extended lockdowns despite the vaccine roll out, this means more mental health issues, suicides, longer waiting lists leaving folk in pain, many cancer patients not being treated, more undiagnosed, not to mention the financial hit we are taking, yes 120k have died ( sadly I’ve lost 2 Auntys myself)  kids losing opportunities and without schooling or contact with friends, most folk who die are are at the end of life, flu deaths cause 10s of thousands of deaths but we don’t lockdown and and we hear very little about it in the media, yes I understand that we must protect the NHS from overloading but we cannot allow the government to be unchallenged and continue this for 1 day more than is necessary and I want to see a brave government make an early call for easing of restrictions , my latest timeline would be once all over 50s are vaccinated just the once. 

Edited February 13, 20215 yr by Mounts Kipper

2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I think I know the trajectory that we are travelling, and we are going to experience more extended lockdowns, this means more mental health issues, suicides, longer waiting lists leaving folk in pain, many cancer patients not being treated, more undiagnosed, not to mention the financial hit we are taking, yes 120k have died ( sadly I’ve lost 2 Auntys myself)  kids losing opportunities and without schooling or contact with friends, most folk who die are are at the end of life, flu deaths cause 10s of thousands of deaths but we don’t lockdown and and we hear very little about it in the media, yes I understand that we must protect the NHS from overloading but we cannot allow the government to be unchallenged and continue this for 1 day more than is necessary and I want to see a brave government make an early call for easing of restrictions , my latest timeline would be once all over 50s are vaccinated just the once. 

Once you're vaccinated? 🙂

5 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Of course. Doesn't alter the fact it's bullshit 👍

In your opinion 

15 minutes ago, Ani said:

Not sure why anyone would want less people to be vaccinated so I do think it is bullshit

I do think that some people expected them to fail and would have gloated

Which is pathetic in its own right 

5 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Once you're vaccinated? 🙂

I’ll be vaccinated well before then. But I’d also be happy if we eased it when 60 plus were vaccinated. Which would mean before I was jabbed. 

Edited February 13, 20215 yr by Mounts Kipper

5 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I think I know the trajectory that we are travelling, and we are going to experience more extended lockdowns despite the vaccine roll out, this means more mental health issues, suicides, longer waiting lists leaving folk in pain, many cancer patients not being treated, more undiagnosed, not to mention the financial hit we are taking, yes 120k have died ( sadly I’ve lost 2 Auntys myself)  kids losing opportunities and without schooling or contact with friends, most folk who die are are at the end of life, flu deaths cause 10s of thousands of deaths but we don’t lockdown and and we hear very little about it in the media, yes I understand that we must protect the NHS from overloading but we cannot allow the government to be unchallenged and continue this for 1 day more than is necessary and I want to see a brave government make an early call for easing of restrictions , my latest timeline would be once all over 50s are vaccinated just the once. 

Well said mounts

37 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

You don’t make the rules son 

I take it you can't then, dad.

Edited February 13, 20215 yr by Cheese

20 minutes ago, Ani said:

Not sure why anyone would want less people to be vaccinated so I do think it is bullshit

I do think that some people expected them to fail and would have gloated

A bit of a contradiction in your post.

Which was the point I made.

1 minute ago, Boby Brno said:

A bit of a contradiction in your post.

Which was the point I made.

What was the contradiction ? 
 

Just checked you have either mis read or mis understood.

All I said was ' fair fucks to em' 4 words pretty hard to contradict yourself with that  

Edited February 13, 20215 yr by Ani

1 minute ago, Boby Brno said:

A bit of a contradiction in your post.

Which was the point I made.

Where's the contradiction? Nobody would want them to fuck this up. But if they did,  wouldn't there be questions to ask why?

33 minutes ago, Ani said:

Not sure why anyone would want less people to be vaccinated so I do think it is bullshit

I do think that some people expected them to fail and would have gloated

This is a contradiction.

Edited February 13, 20215 yr by Boby Brno

More mental health issues? I could go on at great length about this, but will just say the following.

Way overblown in the media, helping to make things worse not better, and that from a pharmacist who tells me docs too readily prescribing antidepressants because someone is low in mood. Creating a big problem for later, understandable in a way because so few face to face contacts are available.

Mental health will be more readily impacted by prolonged hospitalisation of relatives and bereavements; so keep them down.

Waiting lists- not caused by lockdowns are they. In fact the very opposite. Lockdowns reduce numbers, and free up staff.

Coming out of this too soon and seeing another rise would be the biggest mistake and may well see trouble if things were tightened again.

We're in a decent position to get right on top of the situation with the vaccine programme, so get it right and don't rush or risk undoing the good work.

A couple of cases and large part of Australia shuts down for 5 days, like it or not, it works.

As for the future, its very clear that there are concerns about new variants, so again, opening too soon now will see cases rise and the potential for new ones to emerge that are more resistant to current vaccines. This is going to continue to impact on international travel for a considerable time, and the government can do little to control what other nations achieve in their vaccination programmes. 

21 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

Well said mounts

Aye