Slow news day? The real deal? End of the world? 
 

They’re saying it probably came from an animal, has Somebody been shagging monkeys again? 

2 minutes ago, stevieb said:

At Fleetwood away a few years back when we all invaded he was proud as fuck! 

what a top day that was  

i banged that 25 year old that weekend 

did you see the picks off her 

3 minutes ago, gonzo said:

The brewery hierarchy seem to they will be. 

 

Good

And if you dont want to go, stay at home

6 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I think that's the aim all over. I'm booked in for late June; doubtful at the moment I reckon, but perhaps late summer.

Guessing though.

Just told the missus to book us in to place we stayed in plockton for a long weekend in July or August. 
 

going to book a couple of other weekend stays elsewhere on a refundable basis. Might as well start to prepare. 
 

Suspect I will be inundated with visitor requests if we can’t all go abroad. 

17 minutes ago, Zico said:

Pubs aren't opening in April 

 

 

6 minutes ago, gonzo said:

The brewery hierarchy seem to they will be. 

 

I think they'll be open towards the end of April, it'll be "rule of 6" stuff again for a while though, and still table service and wearing masks and one way systems malarkey as well for a few months longer I'd have thought

11 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

You're on about opening up completely!!

Our current figures are during a lockdown.

You're undermining your own argument because its based around lockdown success.

All that goes out of the window once back to an open society; and bare in mind that much of the transmission now is work based- ramp that up massively once the pubs are open and more are back in work.

Then remember the huge concern over variants: as was intimated at the briefing, high cases means more variants. We only need a nasty one to bugger up vaccine programme.

My scenario is based around what we've seen recently and factual information from official data; there's no uncertainty that cases will rocket under your proposal. 

Getting those estimates from modelling and balancing the risks is the duty of medical and government officials- there's not a chance in hell of everything going back to normal in a couple of months or so.

I’m not saying complete unlock, but the time table and easing of restrictions should begin soon, certainly some by the end of March, and gently easing through April, I totally understand if government thinks Easter is early for pubs, restaurants and shops to open but I’d be disappointed if it didn’t happen soon after still with restrictions on social distancing and with limited numbers and table service. 

22 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Up here they are saying if we can get it under control we will be able to holiday in the uk. That’s the golden ticket we are being sold as the dream for this year 

these type of decisions/ directives by governments get right up my nose, who’s to say me holidaying in Edingburgh, London or Cornwall is safer than over seas?  It’s control for control sake, can’t believe folk buy into it. 

5 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I’m not saying complete unlock, but the time table and easing of restrictions should begin soon, certainly some by the end of March, and gently easing through April, I totally understand if government thinks Easter is early for pubs, restaurants and shops to open but I’d be disappointed if it didn’t happen soon after still with restrictions on social distancing and with limited numbers and table service. 

This sounds good and I would really hope is possible. Anything we are allowed to do will feel amazing. I’m going to be easily pleased for a while to come!

1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said:

these type of decisions/ directives by governments get right up my nose, who’s to say me holidaying in Edingburgh, London or Cornwall is safer than over seas?  It’s control for control sake, can’t believe folk buy into it. 

Buy into it? Who’s buying into it? If it transpires I’m not allowed to leave the Uk without paying thousands of pounds in quarantine charges either end then that’s ultimately what it is. Not sure that means I’m buying into anything really. 
 

 

1 minute ago, Escobarp said:

Buy into it? Who’s buying into it? If it transpires I’m not allowed to leave the Uk without paying thousands of pounds in quarantine charges either end then that’s ultimately what it is. Not sure that means I’m buying into anything really. 
 

 

Mounts has a place abroad which I think drives much of his thinking on this

12 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I’m not saying complete unlock, but the time table and easing of restrictions should begin soon, certainly some by the end of March, and gently easing through April, I totally understand if government thinks Easter is early for pubs, restaurants and shops to open but I’d be disappointed if it didn’t happen soon after still with restrictions on social distancing and with limited numbers and table service. 

That's fair enough; but it's seemingly not the view of the lockdown sceptic group.

They seem to be saying drop everything. 

19 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Just told the missus to book us in to place we stayed in plockton for a long weekend in July or August. 
 

going to book a couple of other weekend stays elsewhere on a refundable basis. Might as well start to prepare. 
 

Suspect I will be inundated with visitor requests if we can’t all go abroad. 

Nicola will be building a wall by then

 

12 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Buy into it? Who’s buying into it? If it transpires I’m not allowed to leave the Uk without paying thousands of pounds in quarantine charges either end then that’s ultimately what it is. Not sure that means I’m buying into anything really. 
 

 

Don’t mean you buying it, just folk in general and acceptance of the situation and the government interference in our life’s drives me mad. 

Edited February 15, 20215 yr by Mounts Kipper

9 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

That's fair enough; but it's seemingly not the view of the lockdown sceptic group.

They seem to be saying drop everything. 

Steve baker who’s deputy chair of the group said by the end of April then it’s difficult to justify further lockdown, certainly they’re not advocating dropping everything immediately. I agree with him.  

4 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Don’t mean you buying it, just folk in general and acceptance of the situation and the government interference in our life’s drives me mad. 

I think the thing most people have accepted is we are living amidst a pandemic that has killed over 100k people in the uk. Without intervention that number would have been likely exponentially greater. It’s been horrendous. There has been some positives for me personally that have come out of it but in the main it’s been awful and I’ve lost a year of my life is how I feel and I want it to end. 
 

but I don’t want it to end to go back in lockdown again in 3 months time as that will finish me off. I want to go abroad and want to see my mum when I want and want to go down the pub with my mates etc asap but I feel the end is in sight and I’m prepared to stick with it for a bit longer for long term gain ,which is my life going back to hopefully how it was 

Government interference isn't a choice, but a necessity.

If we want to be protected as much as possible, have hospitals open and treatment available, have vaccines/testing etc then all require some sort of Government intervention. 

The rub is, the more that follow it, the quicker it ends.

Just now, Mr Grey said:

Open pubs in April to the over 50's only 🤓🍻

Over 40’s and you’ve got a deal 😁

14 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Don’t mean you buying it, just folk in general and acceptance of the situation and the government interference in our life’s drives me mad. 

We should have a vote to leave the United Kingdim.

11 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Steve baker who’s deputy chair of the group said by the end of April then it’s difficult to justify further lockdown, certainly they’re not advocating dropping everything immediately. I agree with him.  

That's a bit different to how it's being presented. 

I dont think the lockdown we're in will be around in its current guise then anyhow.

Reckon schools will be back next month for a start.

14 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

I think the thing most people have accepted is we are living amidst a pandemic that has killed over 100k people in the uk. Without intervention that number would have been likely exponentially greater. It’s been horrendous. There has been some positives for me personally that have come out of it but in the main it’s been awful and I’ve lost a year of my life is how I feel and I want it to end. 
 

but I don’t want it to end to go back in lockdown again in 3 months time as that will finish me off. I want to go abroad and want to see my mum when I want and want to go down the pub with my mates etc asap but I feel the end is in sight and I’m prepared to stick with it for a bit longer for long term gain ,which is my life going back to hopefully how it was 

I’m prepared to wait a sensible amount of time, we’re vaccinating 3 million a week so that’s about 40 million vaccinated by Easter at least once, infection rates are also shrinking rapidly, if we continue lockdown to the end of April then the virus should of all but disappeared, by august it’ll another 24 million vaccinations. Unless your destination is on the red list I just don’t buy into these type of government control. 

Edited February 15, 20215 yr by Mounts Kipper

4 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

Open pubs in April to the over 50's only 🤓🍻

Can we not just send em on cruises so us young ens can have a pint without the owd folk giving it the lemon with their double jabbed passports. 

They're the new Brexit Brigade 💣

1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I’m prepared to wait a sensible amount of time, we’re vaccinating 3 million a week so that’s about 40 million vaccinated by Easter at least once, infection rates are also shrinking rapidly, if we continue lockdown to the end of April then the virus should of all but disappeared, by august it’ll another 24 million vaccinations. Unless your destination is on the red list I just don’t buy into these type of government control. 

Problem with this red list nonsense is that whilst they might not be on the red list what is that country doing to stop people coming in from all over the place if that makes sense.  
 

I want to go abroad this year and hopefully I will. But I really don’t want to find myself locked down again next Xmas and be truly fucking miserable pal which is what I fear 

6 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Government interference isn't a choice, but a necessity.

If we want to be protected as much as possible, have hospitals open and treatment available, have vaccines/testing etc then all require some sort of Government intervention. 

The rub is, the more that follow it, the quicker it ends.

I’ve said it before but risk is part of life, it’s hard to justify lockdown after April, how do you justify further restrictions damaging the economy while the risk of death is ridiculously low. 

3 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I’m prepared to wait a sensible amount of time, we’re vaccinating 3 million a week so that’s about 40 million vaccinated by Easter at least once, infection rates are also shrinking rapidly, if we continue lockdown to the end of April then the virus should of all but disappeared, by august it’ll another 24 million vaccinations. Unless your destination is on the red list I just don’t buy into these type of government control. 

It’s all about getting to your pad in the EU really isn’t it....?

4 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I’m prepared to wait a sensible amount of time, we’re vaccinating 3 million a week so that’s about 40 million vaccinated by Easter at least once, infection rates are also shrinking rapidly, if we continue lockdown to the end of April then the virus should of all but disappeared, by august it’ll another 24 million vaccinations. Unless your destination is on the red list I just don’t buy into these type of government control. 

Foreign travel is at the discretion of the individual country's government, so not much we can do about that, other than get jabbed.

Hopefully, figures will also show dramatically reduced transmission from jabbed folk which will help convince them.

I'm not sure what you mean about further restrictions: you said don't open everything at once, so that means some continued restrictions. 

The current lockdown will be gone by end of April, but some curbs will still apply. 

Edited February 15, 20215 yr by Tonge moor green jacket

3 minutes ago, Spider said:

It’s all about getting to your pad in the EU really isn’t it....?

I’ll settle for a night out in a pub restaurant and watching BWFC to be honest.