Slow news day? The real deal? End of the world? 
 

They’re saying it probably came from an animal, has Somebody been shagging monkeys again? 

Sis said that Ryanair people are being told they’ll be back at work in April.

That bloke who owns them is a basket case though.

37 minutes ago, Spider said:

Spoke to my sister

Jet2 are tentatively saying June for resumption of flights, maybe around 50% of normal.

But all depends on the Spanish authorities getting the vaccine right their end.

Vaccine passports a must according to them

thats interesting

not sure what spain have to do with corfu mind

 

wife will have been double vacced, me, maybe only one

so my issue will be any need to lockdown on return

 

fun times

i ate out about 6 times, 4 times in the same pub, 2 in a restaurant

think the last 2 where masks if stood up

pretty sure ive not had it

8 minutes ago, Spider said:

Sis said that Ryanair people are being told they’ll be back at work in April.

That bloke who owns them is a basket case though.

One of my mates works in baggage handling at Stansted, he's been told that it's most likely to be May when things start to open up, but he's been told that he'll be going back in April to get everything ready, and because Ryanair reckon they'll be flying back to the continent on a limited service by then

3 minutes ago, Casino said:

thats interesting

not sure what spain have to do with corfu mind

 

wife will have been double vacced, me, maybe only one

so my issue will be any need to lockdown on return

 

fun times

She lives in Spain so that’ll be her only source of info

I expect Greece will be similar though in terms of progress. Dunno.

The problem is that if outbreaks start flaring up, it’ll shut everything down.

Our snootiness around being miles ahead of the EU on vaccines is all well and good until we want to go there, it seems.

22 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

😁. I used it twice a week I saw it as a chance to support local restaurants. Never once ate in a chain restaurant. In hindsight whilst the scheme has probably saved a large number of places it wasn’t well timed. But hindsight is a wonderful tool as we know. Many on here are blessed with it 🙄

Only way to make decisions

Until there is definitive evidence that having had the vaccine means you can’t transmit the virus, then a country which has only vaccinated a small proportion of its population isn’t going to allow large volumes of holidaymakers regardless of whether they have been vaccinated.

1 hour ago, gonzo said:

Surely with everbody vaccinated who needs to be vaccinated a form of herd immunity will take place.

 

 

I heard one quack saying that we'll possibly never get heard immunity, because it mutates so often and so quickly, obviously that could slow down in the future, who knows. The main concern is if it mutates to a stage where the current vaccine loses it's efficacy, then we're almost back to square one (although they would just need to tweak a current vaccine rather than start from scratch). It has been mutating that quickly that it's been impossible to map so far. 

Things are going well so far, with regards to vaccinations here in the UK, and that's why ideally we have to stop people coming in and going out for a little longer. The last thing we want to do is introduce a new more virulent strain of this virus into the UK population

Can this virus not just mutate itself some common sense that allows us to travel abroad?

4 minutes ago, Sweep said:

The last thing we want to do is introduce a new more virulent strain of this virus into the UK population...

That's got to be weighed against other considerations such as; people want a pint, to go on holiday, what Steve Baker reckons we should do and thoughts on virology and herd immunity from blokes usually in the pub.

Wedding receptions, stupid demonstrations and attended cricket matches need to take place despite the virus - otherwise people will have mumsnet strops.

Being told to return to 'Go' and start all over again, well I for one think that's a chance worth taking for a pint of Stella and crap burger in the fleeing beergarden of Southfields.

Anyway, I've had the thing and been vaccinated both so I'm awash with antibodies so I want my fun and that's all that matters.

 

22 minutes ago, wiggy said:

Until there is definitive evidence that having had the vaccine means you can’t transmit the virus, then a country which has only vaccinated a small proportion of its population isn’t going to allow large volumes of holidaymakers regardless of whether they have been vaccinated.

i think you're wrong

2 hours ago, Spider said:

I know someone who used Eat out to help out like it was the only option he had for food.

He then blamed the government for that causing the next lockdown.

People are thick as fuck.

Common sense doesn’t exist and it certainly doesn’t at a cellular level.

The irony is that a non-sentient virus is probably smarter than half the people it infects.

Just keep restrictions until a few weeks after schools have gone back. Assess it then.

I don't know about castigating those that did. We ate out three times a week and didn't catch a thing, and I'd do that again. every resturant we ate in was impecable about social distancing - including the chain establishments. We know about the transmittability of the virus. 

I wouldn't recomend a scheme such as this again but I think pubs are the biggest isue, not resturants. The Greene King one near us was a free for all, folk just wandering about pissed as farts. If people were sensible and ate out like normal, rather than thinking its an excuse for a piss up, we'd all be a bit better off.

In fact, I wouldn't just confine this to coronavirus.

 

As an aside, I can't believe anybody actually listens to anything Steve Baker says and takes it seriously, that bloke really is a fucking idiot

5 minutes ago, Sweep said:

As an aside, I can't believe anybody actually listens to anything “insert various names off here” says and takes it seriously, that bloke really is a fucking idiot

EFA

9 minutes ago, Sweep said:

As an aside, I can't believe anybody actually listens to anything Steve Baker says and takes it seriously, that bloke really is a fucking idiot

Climate-change sceptic/Big, bearded all-seeing bloke in the sky believer...

14 hours ago, stevieb said:

If some cunt said I couldn't go on holiday or more worryingly go for a pint without having a jab I'd call you mental. Its now on the horizon. 

We didn't and still don't have any restrictions for people with or without flu jabs. You could still travel the world freely with ebola if you didn't die mid flight. 

I'm not a tinfoiler but I am looking at this now and thinking maybe they were on to something. 

 

The second Tony Blair starts calling it a good idea I start to second guess it! 🤣 

A quick google would suggest that the transmission of Ebola is signifcantly different to Covid.

 

Ebola is spread by direct contact with blood or other body fluids (such as: vomit, diarrhea, urine, breast milk, sweat, semen) of an infected person who has symptoms of Ebola or who has recently died from Ebola.

20 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

I don't know about castigating those that did. We ate out three times a week and didn't catch a thing, and I'd do that again. every resturant we ate in was impecable about social distancing - including the chain establishments. We know about the transmittability of the virus. 

I wouldn't recomend a scheme such as this again but I think pubs are the biggest isue, not resturants. The Greene King one near us was a free for all, folk just wandering about pissed as farts. If people were sensible and ate out like normal, rather than thinking its an excuse for a piss up, we'd all be a bit better off.

In fact, I wouldn't just confine this to coronavirus.

 

I wasn't castigating the people that went out - I was having a pop at a guy who did it then blamed the government like they forced him to do it.

My point really was that stupidity abounds.

I miss my Friday teatime pints like mad. Not a Friday goes by where I don't go past the local and have a pang of sadness.

Restaurants should be open - the Cherry tree at Blackrod had the distancing down to a fine art and deserve the chance to open asap.

52 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Only way to make decisions

Or we can accuse folk of having  hindsight to cover up their piss poor decisions in the past.

15 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Or we can accuse folk of having  hindsight to cover up their piss poor decisions in the past.

Too complicated for me!

17 minutes ago, Spider said:

I wasn't castigating the people that went out - I was having a pop at a guy who did it then blamed the government like they forced him to do it.

My point really was that stupidity abounds.

I miss my Friday teatime pints like mad. Not a Friday goes by where I don't go past the local and have a pang of sadness.

Restaurants should be open - the Cherry tree at Blackrod had the distancing down to a fine art and deserve the chance to open asap.

Aye, fair enough. I'd say my local wetherspoons was like a military operation when it was open. 

I know what you mean about friday teatime - best time of the week. Or rather was.

1 hour ago, boltondiver said:

Only way to make decisions

To a large extent yes.

But the group doesn't seem to see it like that, from what I can see.

Fwiw, I'm convinced there is more concern over new variants emerging than is being portrayed, understandably- just a couple of quick comments from whitty last night got me wondering. 

I see it as a case of getting the UK vaccinated, cases down as soon as possible and then stamping down, with sequencing, on anything new.

Allow the country to function internally, with continued restrictions on international travel. 

3 contributors on newsnight last night, and a lady explained it well. Whilst cases are high, just one new emergent strain could put the vaccination programme right back.

 

 

3 hours ago, Escobarp said:

Pretty sure there are folk on here that leveled that sort of criticism at the government’s EOTHO scheme yet used it themselves. and no I won’t be naming names. They know 

The one time I tried using it I couldn’t get a table in all of Bolton as they were fully booked !

46 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Too complicated for me!

Luckily I'm here to hold your hand and guide you through the long grass🙂

3 hours ago, Escobarp said:

Pretty sure there are folk on here that leveled that sort of criticism at the government’s EOTHO scheme yet used it themselves. and no I won’t be naming names. They know 

Where's the fun in that? Come on, spill the beans, let the dog see the rabbit. Name and shame man.

Unless you're just bullshitting?

3 hours ago, gonzo said:

Surely with everbody vaccinated who needs to be vaccinated a form of herd immunity will take place.

Youve naff all chance of People isolating just because their taste has gone or any other form of mild symptoms.

It's all about the hospitals at the end of the day. If theyre cracking on as normal nobody will give a fuck about having a cough or being ill for a bit.

Just like noro virus or generic flu. Itll still spread like fuck but as long as nobodies dying and the hosptial are safe who will give a toss?

With the vaccine kicking about for those that need it, its just like any other illness surely.

 

I dunno quite how it all works, but my suspicion is that if you have a load of people vaccinated, and a not so insigificant amount who refuse, then that may force the virus to mutate to stay alive - it might get stronger for example and seek out those who aren't vaccinated

or it might not

I'm not living in fear, but I can happily wait till I've had two jabs before trying a pub or restaurant, and till then will happily sitting on the sidelines and watch things unfold

I reckon there'll be more twists and turns yet