Slow news day? The real deal? End of the world? 
 

They’re saying it probably came from an animal, has Somebody been shagging monkeys again? 

These are, correctly, political decisions

Just now, boltondiver said:

These are, correctly, political decisions

Fine, absolutely fine

I thought we were listening to the science 

4 minutes ago, Spider said:

He described the lifting of restrictions as “dangerous”

He toed the line in the main, but it was clear he’s not happy.

Trouble is, it's almost as if they're lifted already.

Can't help thinking it might help if a couple of top people actually said what we can all see. JVT for example with something along the line of "look, we've made it as easy as possible for you, but some are throwing it back into society's face. Now grow the fuck up, and get a grip"

 

1 minute ago, Casino said:

Fine, absolutely fine

I thought we were listening to the science 

Of course they listen to the scientists, but someone has to make (difficult) decisions

3 minutes ago, Casino said:

Fine, absolutely fine

I thought we were listening to the science 

Science includes behavioural, economic etc. Not entirely medical.

In fact, forgive me, following the science, wasn't it?

Feels like the new line is 'moving on from dom'

10 minutes ago, Casino said:

What's he said

Interested as the bozo lovers rated him

‘In my opinion the rules are clear they have always been clear

in my opinion they are for the benefit of all

in my opinion they apply to all.’ 

Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Science includes behavioural, economic etc. Not entirely medical.

Come on

Just now, Ani said:

‘In my opinion the rules are clear they have always been clear

in my opinion they are for the benefit of all

in my opinion they apply to all.’ 

Thats a BOOM

Just now, Casino said:

In fact, forgive me, following the science, wasn't it?

Feels like the new line is 'moving on from dom'

To be fair the scientists said they provide the advice the politicians make the decision. There are clearly some that think this is too early but some that do not. 

Just now, Casino said:

Come on

?

Don't you agree then?

Despite this being made very clear from the off. Sage is not purely medical.

2 minutes ago, Casino said:

Thats a BOOM

It is on Twitter. Just not sure how you do a link. Too old for that shit. 

3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

?

Don't you agree then?

Despite this being made very clear from the off. Sage is not purely medical.

To be fair that has been clear. 
 

It has been the behavourial lot saying how important it was for the leaders to also follow the advice.  

Edited May 30, 20206 yr by Ani

1 minute ago, Ani said:

To be fair that has been clear. 

Not to some, it would seem

7 minutes ago, Ani said:

‘In my opinion the rules are clear they have always been clear

in my opinion they are for the benefit of all

in my opinion they apply to all.’ 

Unfortunately, if this was a hint to BJ, I think it will be on deaf ears.

3 minutes ago, Ani said:

To be fair that has been clear. 
 

It has been the behavourial lot saying how important it was for the leaders to also follow the advice.  

Very good.

Seems politicians and officials equally capable of being cuntish about all this as the public.

3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

?

Don't you agree then?

Despite this being made very clear from the off. Sage is not purely medical.

All through, the claim has been that it's all about saving lives

So we have listened to the science that saves lives

This science we are listening to now, isn't about saving lives. It's about getting the economy moving and getting folk to forget cummings 

Imo

Fwiw, I'd never have closed the economy down, so I've no issue with the latest measures

I just don't believe the justification 

If we fail, it won't be because of the Government, but the people.

 

We, the people, know what to do and what not to do

1 hour ago, Escobarp said:

Why are they not comparing the stats like for like in terms of when we came out of lockdown surely that would be a better comparison?

 

Don't know about those stats, but according to the tracker Peely has quoted from a few times, as of 28th May we have a more stringent set of measures in place than (of those countries)...

Italy, Hungary, Germany, Sweden

And a less stringent set of measures than...

Poland, Spain, Turkey, Ireland, France, Belgium, Romania, Netherlands, Portugal

That's obviously as of now, rather than Monday, and is based just on the rules rather than how people are adhering to them. But I think it's clear that we're on the lighter side of things in Europe, and still with a comparatively very high death rate.

2 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

If we fail, it won't be because of the Government, but the people.

 

We, the people, know what to do and what not to do

I doubt you would say that of the economy tanked under corbyn, but heyho, suns out, beers in the fridge

The party has started

Edited May 30, 20206 yr by Casino

1 minute ago, Casino said:

I doubt you would say that of the economy tanked under corbyn, but hey heyho, suns out, beers in the fridge

The party has started

I don't understand the comparison. Thankfully, we'll never know

 

I concur with your perspective re party, been a long day already!

Diver is right, of course, in theory.

People have been given a basic set of instructions but have failed with the nuances.

Stay at home, they said. Most did. But in the end too many people lost willpower/patience and then decided to say the message was fuzzy.

What didn’t help is that the message was open to interpretation. And certain sections of society will always do what they want.

I still say that they’ve rushed this through by a week or two because of Cummings

Before Royal leaps in with his sniper rifle, I have no evidence for this, just a gut feeling. But deflection is a common political tool used by all, so it wouldn’t be a surprise.

If the next wave comes, which hopefully it won’t, then they’ve scored an own goal. If not, then fair play.

3 minutes ago, Spider said:

Diver is right, of course, in theory.

People have been given a basic set of instructions but have failed with the nuances.

Stay at home, they said. Most did. But in the end too many people lost willpower/patience and then decided to say the message was fuzzy.

What didn’t help is that the message was open to interpretation. And certain sections of society will always do what they want.

I still say that they’ve rushed this through by a week or two because of Cummings

Before Royal leaps in with his sniper rifle, I have no evidence for this, just a gut feeling. But deflection is a common political tool used by all, so it wouldn’t be a surprise.

If the next wave comes, which hopefully it won’t, then they’ve scored an own goal. If not, then fair play.

It's a very strange place

We are losing many people every day, but our collective actions seem to sugest that, as a society, we are content with that.

I'm not suggesting "we" are selfish, perhaps it's too big a picture to see

7 minutes ago, Spider said:

Diver is right, of course, in theory.

People have been given a basic set of instructions but have failed with the nuances.

Stay at home, they said. Most did. But in the end too many people lost willpower/patience and then decided to say the message was fuzzy.

What didn’t help is that the message was open to interpretation. And certain sections of society will always do what they want.

I still say that they’ve rushed this through by a week or two because of Cummings

Before Royal leaps in with his sniper rifle, I have no evidence for this, just a gut feeling. But deflection is a common political tool used by all, so it wouldn’t be a surprise.

If the next wave comes, which hopefully it won’t, then they’ve scored an own goal. If not, then fair play.

Course they’ve rushed it in early because of Dom. Surely we can all see that?

34 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Can't help thinking it might help if a couple of top people actually said what we can all see. 

That approach left town last week post Barnard Castle