Coronavirus

[Ani]

Well judging by the news reports round here everyone under the age of 25 has moved on and decided that it is time to party. 

[mickbrown]

7 minutes ago, Ani said:

Well judging by the news reports round here everyone under the age of 25 has moved on and decided that it is time to party. 

Hardly surprising. 

We’ll have to see if this bites us on the arse. 

[ProfessorWoland]

8 hours ago, Ani said:

Well judging by the news reports round here everyone under the age of 25 has moved on and decided that it is time to party. 

I'm hoping that the news is only highlighting outliers and the majority are still holding the line. I know of young folk who are anyway so good for them.

i don't get stressed over folk meeting their loved ones across a lawn in their back garden. The people having house parties look the more irresponsible to me.

[Zico]

8 hours ago, Ani said:

Well judging by the news reports round here everyone under the age of 25 has moved on and decided that it is time to party. 

10-20 of them on the field were i walk the dog each night

Wouldn't mind but the shits don't clean up after themselves

[Spider]

Some optimistic news for once:

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-italy-virus/new-coronavirus-losing-potency-top-italian-doctor-says-idUKKBN2370OP

[Tonge moor green jacket]

21 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said:

10-20 of them on the field were i walk the dog each night

Wouldn't mind but the shits don't clean up after themselves

Watch a report on the BBC about a park in Birmingham. Might as well as convert it into a recycling centre.

Similarly with these fires.

Then folk have to clear it up, potentially putting themselves at a higher level of risk.

Selfish, scummy behaviour.

[Mounts Kipper]

34 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Watch a report on the BBC about a park in Birmingham. Might as well as convert it into a recycling centre.

Similarly with these fires.

Then folk have to clear it up, potentially putting themselves at a higher level of risk.

Selfish, scummy behaviour.

What’s up with the younger folk today, one thing that boils my piss is littering, what the fuck goes on in their stupid little brains. 😡🤬

[Tonge moor green jacket]

4 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

What’s up with the younger folk today, one thing that boils my piss is littering, what the fuck goes on in their stupid little brains. 😡🤬

Very little I reckon.

[Escobarp]

6 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

What’s up with the younger folk today, one thing that boils my piss is littering, what the fuck goes on in their stupid little brains. 😡🤬

And it’s that age group banging the save the planet drum all over social media as well whilst leaving there McDonald’s shit and empty plastic bottles lying about. 

[L/H White]

17 hours ago, Spider said:

@kent_white

Mate who works at Bolton Hospital been told they may have to prepare for upswing in CV admission in July. All ops cancelled

You being told the same?

blackpool hospital have said their covid patients shot up last week

our lockdown started 2 weeks late, which lets have it right was a farcical lockdown from the off, and it's been lifted far to early

no doubt we'll have a second spike

[Ani]

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/local-news/drivers-video-shows-packed-ilkley-18338063.amp

[ProfessorWoland]

1 hour ago, Spider said:

Some optimistic news for once:

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-italy-virus/new-coronavirus-losing-potency-top-italian-doctor-says-idUKKBN2370OP

I remember reading that the strain that Northern Italy got seemed far more virulent than that which was in Asia. Virologists have been saying that over time it could become progressively less dangerous until it's pretty much another cold virus cropping up every so often. It's not really in a viruses interest to kill its host so hopefully evolution will help to see milder strains prevail?

 

43 minutes ago, L/H White said:

blackpool hospital have said their covid patients shot up last week

our lockdown started 2 weeks late, which lets have it right was a farcical lockdown from the off, and it's been lifted far to early

no doubt we'll have a second spike

I know someone getting cancer treatment there at the moment. Its seemingly been going well although his friends have been concerned as they say the hospital had something of a bad rep over recent years? He's an older guy, I hope they're able to keep things separated. 

[Ruba Mustafa]

49 minutes ago, L/H White said:

blackpool hospital have said their covid patients shot up last week

our lockdown started 2 weeks late, which lets have it right was a farcical lockdown from the off, and it's been lifted far to early

no doubt we'll have a second spike

I don’t think there’ll be a second spike, it’s the time of year when flu dies out, be good learning either way 

[Tombwfc]

1 hour ago, Spider said:

Some optimistic news for once:

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-italy-virus/new-coronavirus-losing-potency-top-italian-doctor-says-idUKKBN2370OP

 

Definitely a few promising signs in some countries. Would be interesting to know if similar applies in the UK now vs a couple of months ago.

[Ani]

10 minutes ago, Ruba Mustafa said:

I don’t think there’ll be a second spike, it’s the time of year when flu dies out, be good learning either way 

Unless you and your family die. 

[Ani]

1 hour ago, Spider said:

Some optimistic news for once:

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-italy-virus/new-coronavirus-losing-potency-top-italian-doctor-says-idUKKBN2370OP

Bizarrely I was discussing this in less scientific terms yesterday. 

The virus sole objective is to reproduce so by killing its host it kills itself. The most potent versions of the virus see people needing treatment and the milder versions go unnoticed. So the potent version gradually dies off and the mild less dangerous becomes prevalent. 
I may well be on the evening briefing soon. 

[Casino]

I was wondering what happened to the 5 stages thing

Then i remembered, durham happened

[peelyfeet]

20 minutes ago, Ani said:

Bizarrely I was discussing this in less scientific terms yesterday. 

The virus sole objective is to reproduce so by killing its host it kills itself. The most potent versions of the virus see people needing treatment and the milder versions go unnoticed. So the potent version gradually dies off and the mild less dangerous becomes prevalent. 
I may well be on the evening briefing soon. 

 

40 minutes ago, ProfessorWoland said:

I remember reading that the strain that Northern Italy got seemed far more virulent than that which was in Asia. Virologists have been saying that over time it could become progressively less dangerous until it's pretty much another cold virus cropping up every so often. It's not really in a viruses interest to kill its host so hopefully evolution will help to see milder strains prevail?

 

 

26 minutes ago, Tombwfc said:

 

Definitely a few promising signs in some countries. Would be interesting to know if similar applies in the UK now vs a couple of months ago.

 They aren't saying the virus is less virulent unfortunately -  they're saying they are generally seeing a lower viral load in the swabs they've been taking now as opposed to March - Viral load is the amount of the virus present. Lower viral load means the immune system doesnt have to work as hard,  to combat the spread inside the body, less antibodies are required, and recovery is therefore faster with milder sysmptoms - all in all good.

They dont know what has caused it, it could be the weather, social distancing, mask wearing etc.

[peelyfeet]

53 minutes ago, Ruba Mustafa said:

I don’t think there’ll be a second spike, it’s the time of year when flu dies out, be good learning either way 

I think there will initially be small rises in infections in the NW in the next few weeks.

I also think the tracing will counteract some of the rises, a couple of weeks later and so it will be a balancing act - if the rate goes well above R (if we see consistent small rises in infections across several areas), then I would expect regional lockdowns to come back.

All depends on how good the tracking is.

Viruses don't fuck off on their own, we already know that in the NW several thousand people are getting new infections every day. Increasing human to human contact will increase this number. Quarantines of the potential new infected by way of the tracking and tracing will reduce the number  

I can't see the rate getting to the levels we had in April again, until the weather turns shite and we start spedning more time indoors again - who knows,  by then the tracking and tracing may be excellent and the virus may have become less virulent, and the medication may be better and we may have a vaccine. 

Edited June 1, 2020 by peelyfeet

[mickbrown]

2 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

What’s up with the younger folk today, one thing that boils my piss is littering, what the fuck goes on in their stupid little brains. 😡🤬

To be honest there’s far less littering these days than back when we were kids. There was litter and dog shit all over the shop.
 

 Nay fucker used litter bins (there was hardly any about anyway) back then. 

[mickbrown]

53 minutes ago, Casino said:

I was wondering what happened to the 5 stages thing

Then i remembered, durham happened

Sure return to sport was a level one job, but the gee gees are back

[Escobarp]

21 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Sure return to sport was a level one job, but the gee gees are back

I didn’t read that sport was level one. Mass gatherings and sizable attendance at events maybe but not the return of sport 

[Ani]

54 minutes ago, peelyfeet said:

 

 They aren't saying the virus is less virulent unfortunately -  they're saying they are generally seeing a lower viral load in the swabs they've been taking now as opposed to March - Viral load is the amount of the virus present. Lower viral load means the immune system doesnt have to work as hard,  to combat the spread inside the body, less antibodies are required, and recovery is therefore faster with milder sysmptoms - all in all good.

They dont know what has caused it, it could be the weather, social distancing, mask wearing etc.

Fuck. I will cancel my appearance on Question Time. 

[TroySwoosh]

  

47 minutes ago, peelyfeet said:

I think there will initially be small rises in infections in the NW in the next few weeks.

I also think the tracing will counteract some of the rises, a couple of weeks later and so it will be a balancing act - if the rate goes well above R (if we see consistent small rises in infections across several areas), then I would expect regional lockdowns to come back.

All depends on how good the tracking is.

Viruses don't fuck off on their own, we already know that in the NW several thousand people are getting new infections every day. Increasing human to human contact will increase this number. Quarantines of the potential new infected by way of the tracking and tracing will reduce the number  

I can't see the rate getting to the levels we had in April again, until the weather turns shite and we start spedning more time indoors again - who knows,  by then the tracking and tracing may be excellent and the virus may have become less virulent, and the medication may be better and we may have a vaccine. 

didn't SARS just dissapear?

[Guest]

51 minutes ago, peelyfeet said:

I think there will initially be small rises in infections in the NW in the next few weeks.

I also think the tracing will counteract some of the rises, a couple of weeks later and so it will be a balancing act - if the rate goes well above R (if we see consistent small rises in infections across several areas), then I would expect regional lockdowns to come back.

All depends on how good the tracking is.

Viruses don't fuck off on their own, we already know that in the NW several thousand people are getting new infections every day. Increasing human to human contact will increase this number. Quarantines of the potential new infected by way of the tracking and tracing will reduce the number  

I can't see the rate getting to the levels we had in April again, until the weather turns shite and we start spedning more time indoors again - who knows,  by then the tracking and tracing may be excellent and the virus may have become less virulent, and the medication may be better and we may have a vaccine. 

I thought that the latest estimate of new daily infections was 8,000, for the whole of the UK?

Several thousand in the North West?

Edited June 1, 2020 by boltondiver