Coronavirus

[Zico]

34 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Can't help thinking it might help if a couple of top people actually said what we can all see. 

That approach left town last week post Barnard Castle

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Course they’ve rushed it in early because of Dom. Surely we can all see that?

Maybe

But, it might be for the best

[Zico]

24 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

If we fail, it won't be because of the Government, but the people.

 

We, the people, know what to do and what not to do

Nonsense

Other countries fined people if they left their house without a permit

Some did everything in their power to make sure no one floughted the rules

Ours did a u turn on herd immunity then "urged" folk to stay at home, then pretended it didn't matter when one of their own got caught out, then let everyone crack on well before it was totally safe to do so

 

 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, ZicoKelly said:

Nonsense

Other countries fined people if they left their house without a permit

Some did everything in their power to make sure no one floughted the rules

Ours did a u turn on herd immunity then "urged" folk to stay at home, then pretended it didn't matter when one of their own got caught out, then let everyone crack on well before it was totally safe to do so

 

 

Well, everyone has a right to their opinion, even if it is nonsense

[Zico]

Just now, boltondiver said:

Well, everyone has a right to their opinion, even if it is nonsense

Of course

But at least justify it

We're already the biggest euro failures as we exit the first wave, so at least tell us why that's our fault

[Not in Crawley]

Hang on, some posters would rather blame the population as a whole, rather than the elected parliament to get us though this crisis?

We rightly are the 51st state the with this mentality. Thankfully we have enough people in this country to keep this nonsense in check.

[jmjhb]

Zero. Fucks. Given.

Dorset has an older population too, I'd be fucking terrified if I was a pensioner there

Edited May 30, 2020 by jmjhb

[Guest]

8 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said:

Of course

But at least justify it

We're already the biggest euro failures as we exit the first wave, so at least tell us why that's our fault

Hi

I was talking more about the future, for context.

But, at this this juncture, we know what we need to do/don't do, so it is up to us, individually, to take responsibility, day in day out. Many are/some aren't.

If we don't, then it doesn't matter what the Govt do unless they decide to take a Chinese/authoritarian stance. I don't think that would work here.

Edited May 30, 2020 by boltondiver

[Ani]

Just now, boltondiver said:

Hi

I was talking more about the future, for context.

But, at this this juncture, we know what we need to do/don't do, so it is up to us, individually, to take responsibility, day in day out. Many re/some aren't.

If we don't, then it doesn't matter what the Govt do unless they decide to take a Chinese/authoritarian stance. I don't think that would work here.

Lead by example would be one option and not excuse breaking the rules. 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Ani said:

Lead by example would be one option and not excuse breaking the rules. 

I've mostly kept out of that shrill conversation.

Although my summary was that he should be sacked, or resign.

As should Maitlis.

[Zico]

1 minute ago, boltondiver said:

Hi

I was talking more about the future, for context.

But, at this this juncture, we know what we need to do/don't do, so it is up to us, individually, to take responsibility, day in day out. Many re/some aren't.

But that's how its been since day one

The lockdown message was clear

Yet

Some leaders brag about shaking hands with the inflected and nearly die 

Some tell everyone what they need to do, they don't bother themselves and pretend its ok

So is it fair to say our failure so far is due to leadership, but now they've fucked up its on us?

Or do you blame the people for where we find ourselves right now?

[jmjhb]

Winter Hill on fire again

[Guest]

1 minute ago, ZicoKelly said:

But that's how its been since day one

The lockdown message was clear

Yet

Some leaders brag about shaking hands with the inflected and nearly die 

Some tell everyone what they need to do, they don't bother themselves and pretend its ok

So is it fair to say our failure so far is due to leadership, but now they've fucked up its on us?

Or do you blame the people for where we find ourselves right now?

I remember why I've kept out of this thread!

 

Thank you.

[Tombwfc]

28 minutes ago, jmjhb said:

Zero. Fucks. Given.

Dorset has an older population too, I'd be fucking terrified if I was a pensioner there

 

If someone there tests positive next week. What do they tell the tracers? 

[Escobarp]

2 minutes ago, Tombwfc said:

 

If someone there tests positive next week. What do they tell the tracers? 

Nobody can tell me that’s not the people who are there that are at fault? 

[Rudy]

[Guest]

11 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Nobody can tell me that’s not the people who are there that are at fault? 

i think there are some who can

[peelyfeet]

Interesting stuff

http://www.independentsage.org/

[Not in Crawley]

28 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

Aye you would have a totalitarian state.

We were given some trust, some didn't and couldn't give a fuck, it was always going to be the case whovever was in Government and whatever lockdown procedures were put in place. Works both ways imo.

No I wouldn’t, good grief some folk have either never picked a book up,   listened after school or like simplistic answers to issues that are beyond their understanding.

Just so they can shout on a football forum.

[victor meldrew]

17 minutes ago, Rudy said:

can't be ironing board george...

6 out of 6 there

[mickbrown]

1 hour ago, boltondiver said:

Maybe

But, it might be for the best

Maybe

[jeep]

When they announced this latest release of the lockdown I never for 1 minute thought about it being used to deflect because of that weaselly little cunt Cummings.

I thought it was because the warm weather would be a deterrent to the virus. Read somewhere that it can't thrive in warm weather....

Thought JVT was good. He's no puppet for any government. Would be a mistake to not have him on again 👍

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 hour ago, Ani said:

Lead by example would be one option and not excuse breaking the rules. 

Of course, but that neither justifies others doing it, nor having been doing it well before Dom went for his eye test.

I see the Moors are on fire again, up at Darwin.

I'd wager that some cunt has set fire to the grass. They don't need the government to tell them not to to know they shouldn't.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 hour ago, ZicoKelly said:

But that's how its been since day one

The lockdown message was clear

Yet

Some leaders brag about shaking hands with the inflected and nearly die 

Some tell everyone what they need to do, they don't bother themselves and pretend its ok

So is it fair to say our failure so far is due to leadership, but now they've fucked up its on us?

Or do you blame the people for where we find ourselves right now?

Yet, by following the advice of the medical chaps via the government many of us have managed to stay clear.

Not as cut and dried as that, but you get the point.

Works both ways.

There's been a group of households on a street near me having regular street parties, no proper distancing the works.

I really don't understand what they would expect the government to do differently to protect them.

[Alf Hartigan]

7 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Of course, but that neither justifies others doing it, nor having been doing it well before Dom went for his eye test.

I see the Moors are on fire again, up at Darwin.

I'd wager that some cunt has set fire to the grass. They don't need the government to tell them not to to know they shouldn't.

They had a big fire up there on Wednesday. It's Darwen by the way.

Is there another one today?