Reet, who's next?

47 minutes ago, BarnsleyFan said:

For a time we did play decent football, and that coincided with the time we had decent footballers.

There was a future Premier League player and several upper/middle Championship players in that League One team of 2016. It got a run of wins under its belt just before Johnson left, and Heckingbottom did really well in making sure that standards did not slip.

So, yeah, it's fair to say that when he had good players, the team played good football (including after promotion) and when he didn't, it didn't. 

I understand the whining and the frustration from him, because there were - by our standards - some bloody good players who were sold. As a fan, though, I didn't want to hear it alllllllllllllll the timeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

When he left for Leeds, I didn't know how good a manager he was, precisely because of my third paragraph. His win-percentages there and at Hibs suggest that he - like my club - never recovered from that fire-sale.

It may all be irrelevant to Bolton fans now, anyway, if he goes to them horrible rape-threatening, elbowing thundercunts down the road. (Leeds, followed by that lot! Talk about burning your fucking bridges!) If that's the case, I'll disappear until you're linked with someone else we've had, and then I'll give you my thoughts for better or for worse.

Good luck!

 

Cheers mate thanks for the info 

6 minutes ago, Casino said:

If he resigns, is it not all bets are off regarding compo

Big risk from his point of view if he jumps ship, speaks to us and finds he doesn’t want to work under Phoenix etc. If he speaks to us before resigning then we’re in to the realms of illegal approaches and all that carry on. 

I know a lot of you don’t pay much attention to Nixon but 

 

9 minutes ago, Casino said:

If he resigns, is it not all bets are off regarding compo

Not that simple. They will still have to agree to his resignation and they aren’t going to do that if he’s heavily linked with us. 

Plus there will be a provision for this in his contract. Some sort of anti competition clause. 

Otherwise why does anyone ever pay compo for a manager? 

250K?!

 

I think they're just setting out their position. Negotiation from there.

5 minutes ago, Marc505 said:

250K?!

 

To be fair that's not a lot for a manager seemingly in the Wilder mould, it could cost us a damn site more if we're stuck down here for years.

7 minutes ago, DomRepWanderer said:

To be fair that's not a lot for a manager seemingly in the Wilder mould, it could cost us a damn site more if we're stuck down here for years.

It's a lot of money to release an up until now non league manager to a 4th division club but maybe there'll be some compromise as the Inglorious Basterd above suggests. I wonder what Plymouth would have been asking for Lowe.

42 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Not that simple. They will still have to agree to his resignation and they aren’t going to do that if he’s heavily linked with us. 

Plus there will be a provision for this in his contract. Some sort of anti competition clause. 

Otherwise why does anyone ever pay compo for a manager? 

I'm pretty sure Allardyce walked from notts county in similar circs?

4 minutes ago, Casino said:

I'm pretty sure Allardyce walked from notts county in similar circs?

Correct, and they weren't happy bunnies, but nothing came of it from Notts.

6 minutes ago, Casino said:

I'm pretty sure Allardyce walked from notts county in similar circs?

 

3 minutes ago, DomRepWanderer said:

Correct, and they weren't happy bunnies, but nothing came of it from Notts.

We got fined £45k

Evatt's odds are 1/10 now.

Just now, DomRepWanderer said:

Evatt's odds are 1/10 now.

2/5 William hill 

4 minutes ago, Casino said:

I'm pretty sure Allardyce walked from notts county in similar circs?

Games moved on a fair bit in terms of sophistication since then.  
 

How many legal cases were kicking around the game at that time? I go back to my initial point why doesn’t everyone do that? Why pay compo? 
 

 

Ian Evatt

1/10

I think we all know it’s going to be him subject to the financials of the deal possibly. Good statement of intent from The club if we get him. 

37 minutes ago, Marc505 said:

250K?!

 

If just 2,500 of us put £100 in now, against our future season tickets, job's a good 'un.

Well if Sharon put 10k on him when he was way out in the odds, she’ll have the compo covered.

ITK

17 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

I think we all know it’s going to be him subject to the financials of the deal possibly. Good statement of intent from The club if we get him. 

Agree 

Its not just about paying the compensation for him - its satisfying him personally that once the club is stabilised and we come out of the embargo,  monies will be available to invest going forward, and that FV aspirations and medium term vision match his own. 

From Evatts point of view , were he to stay at Barrow , there is every chance they could realistically challenge for promotion this coming season - with a bit of strengthening ( seem to recall 1/3 of clubs coming out of the National League into League two have gone straight up to League One ) 

Were he to do that -  he then becomes a very wanted man and he knows that 

 

Edited June 24, 20205 yr by Benny The Ball

Had a message from a well-informed Barrow fan that I know and he said they’re pretty insistent on the compensation being paid up front. Told him they’re in for a rude awakening if they think that’s how it works in League Two. Even Salford would think twice about paying that in a lump sum rather than instalments even at the best of times, never mind when nobody has had any cash flow for months. 

Also the 250k May include his backroom staff

250k seems a lot of money for a manager who has had 3 matches' experience in the Football League

His assistant at Barrow is Peter Atherton. Blast from the past 

Edited June 24, 20205 yr by jmjhb

2 hours ago, Leyther_Matt said:

Big risk from his point of view if he jumps ship, speaks to us and finds he doesn’t want to work under Phoenix etc. If he speaks to us before resigning then we’re in to the realms of illegal approaches and all that carry on. 

I think it’s probably fair to assume that we’ve already spoken to him (on the QT) and he’s happy to join us pending a compo agreement with Barrow. Once he tells Barrow of his desire to join us the compo will probably come down in value!

1 hour ago, Casino said:

I'm pretty sure Allardyce walked from notts county in similar circs?

Did we poach Parky from Bradford or did he resign/out of contract?

1 minute ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Did we poach Parky from Bradford or did he resign/out of contract?

Anderson probably somehow got them to pay us.