Ani Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Cheese said: Why not? If I see a cow and tell someone "Look, there's a cow over there" do I have to explain to them what a cow is? Because a cow is a breed of animal. The definition of a racist is not so clear cut. It is clearly open to interpretation. Assume you agree it is a shit thing to be. So if you are going to throw the accusation about not Unreasonable for someone to ask why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted August 29, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted August 29, 2020 57 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: I will 👍 Don't forget to blow your burning torch out before bedtime 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deane koontz Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Someone else has been shot. MSM link https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53963625 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deane koontz Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 I was thinking the racist cow bit might have turned into a Brexit/gym type analogy overnight ☹️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Mr Grey, just out of interest, what's is your issue with Sky Sports? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boby Brno Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 It seems America does have decent politicians. Spend 7 minutes listening to this. Listen how many times he uses that outdated phrase ‘common sense’ Brilliant stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 According to the science we're all a little bit racist. Even Cheese 😁 https://www.parents.com/baby/all-about-babies/science-says-everyones-a-little-bit-racist-even-babies/ Clearly though - if you're going to 'call out' racism then you need to have either some evidence, or a decent argument. Whilst myself and Mr. Grey see differently on plenty of things, it seems pretty harsh to label him as such. It isn't a nice thing to accuse someone of and I thought he handled it pretty calmly to be fair. Kinda think it's why the politics of the left is so fractured at the moment. All to quick to label people with opposing views on Brexit or immigration as bigots. It's turned a lot of folk away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted August 30, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted August 30, 2020 I would have thought that some of that evidence can be seen in everyday life. People of similar backgrounds, race, colour, wealth, status etc tend towards similar. Clearly not solely so, but its just human nature. Doesn't mean they're an 'ist' of one sort or another. Irrespective of the screeches to the contrary of a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boby Brno Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 20 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: According to the science we're all a little bit racist. Even Cheese 😁 https://www.parents.com/baby/all-about-babies/science-says-everyones-a-little-bit-racist-even-babies/ Clearly though - if you're going to 'call out' racism then you need to have either some evidence, or a decent argument. Whilst myself and Mr. Grey see differently on plenty of things, it seems pretty harsh to label him as such. It isn't a nice thing to accuse someone of and I thought he handled it pretty calmly to be fair. Kinda think it's why the politics of the left is so fractured at the moment. All to quick to label people with opposing views on Brexit or immigration as bigots. It's turned a lot of folk away. All fair points. Cheese really isn’t worth a mention though. He regularly, verbally abuses people on here, including me. The bloke clearly has issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 40 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: I would have thought that some of that evidence can be seen in everyday life. People of similar backgrounds, race, colour, wealth, status etc tend towards similar. Clearly not solely so, but its just human nature. Doesn't mean they're an 'ist' of one sort or another. Irrespective of the screeches to the contrary of a few. aye good points. As it points to in the article, we all often hold negative judgements of others in society. Could be anyone from rich folk to those on a council estate. Or students or Muslims etc. I guess decent people just see past difference or understand it through getting to know other communties and interacting with them. It would be good to see certain elements of the media not perpetuating certain stereotypes but I think the 'ist' card is all to often branded about out of context. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, London Wanderer said: According to the science we're all a little bit racist. Even Cheese 😁 https://www.parents.com/baby/all-about-babies/science-says-everyones-a-little-bit-racist-even-babies/ Clearly though - if you're going to 'call out' racism then you need to have either some evidence, or a decent argument. Whilst myself and Mr. Grey see differently on plenty of things, it seems pretty harsh to label him as such. It isn't a nice thing to accuse someone of and I thought he handled it pretty calmly to be fair. Kinda think it's why the politics of the left is so fractured at the moment. All to quick to label people with opposing views on Brexit or immigration as bigots. It's turned a lot of folk away. Fully agree that we are all a little bit discriminatory, it’s familiarity I suppose. When I worked in recruitment the Poles coming in were taking jobs way below their ability to get o the career ladder. However recruiting managers didn’t know if their education or pre ious employment was good or not (vs a British equivalent) On another note, when we went to Jamaica we got charged double to go up Dunnes River falls because we were white I’d say that the U.K. is one of the most inclusive, un racist countries in the world Edited August 30, 2020 by birch-chorley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted August 30, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted August 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: Fully agree that we are all a little bit racist When we went to Jamaica we got charged double to go up Dunnes River falls because we were white I’d say that the U.K. is one of the most inclusive, un racist countries in the world I am not sure that is racist, it is just making money from tourists, same the world over. I paid 5 quid for a cap in Sri Lanka yet our guide could have got it for 2 quid, happens all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Just now, Winchester White said: I am not sure that is racist, it is just making money from tourists, same the world over. I paid 5 quid for a cap in Sri Lanka yet our guide could have got it for 2 quid, happens all the time. Aye ok The U.K. has a missive tourist industry, imagine charging different prices based on colour of skin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted August 30, 2020 Moderators Share Posted August 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: Aye ok The U.K. has a missive tourist industry, imagine charging different prices based on colour of skin I bet chinks in Jamaica don't get better deals than whites Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Just now, ZicoKelly said: I bet chinks in Jamaica don't get better deals than whites I bet they don’t 😂 Blacks get in cheap Imagine whites paying £5, Blacks and tans £10 for a cruise on Windermere We are definitely one of the most fair and inclusive countries in the world for my money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted August 30, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted August 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: Aye ok The U.K. has a missive tourist industry, imagine charging different prices based on colour of skin You know it isn't that simple, come on fella. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 25 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: Aye ok The U.K. has a missive tourist industry, imagine charging different prices based on colour of skin Said before in in India it’s 10x the price for whites at the tourist attractions. Imagine that here. Hang on Sanjeev your an extra fiver. And as for you woo man chu your a tenner. And you can fuck off delroy you’re not coming in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 32 minutes ago, Winchester White said: You know it isn't that simple, come on fella. I know it’s not But i think the U.K. is one of the fairest, most inclusive societies on the planet Where do you think we rank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: Exactly, we get ripped off everywhere, and our own country doesn't do shit like that, or not to extent others do. I remember going to spain in the late 80's, always went in the Spanish bars, and went in one bar for about 4 days running when the price went down a few pesatas, an English bloke informed me the locals get charged a cheaper price for their beer, but because you have been coming in for a few days, it's now a bit cheaper. Imagine if a French geezer walks into the Ape n Apple in town and they charge him more because he is foreign, just doesn't happen. Although there maybe isolated incidents in other parts of the tourism industry, but that's not just foreign visitors, that's us all. But you can’t be racist against whites. You know this. It’s acceptable behaviour at the end of the day. One way street. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boby Brno Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: I know it’s not But i think the U.K. is one of the fairest, most inclusive societies on the planet Where do you think we rank? I’ve travelled quite a lot. For me, No. 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 9 minutes ago, Boby Brno said: I’ve travelled quite a lot. For me, No. 1. I would absolutely agree. Only places I would say are close are NZ and oz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 (edited) Reckon it's exploitation of tourists rather than racism against whites. Not that the latter doesn't exist in these places. Just evidence of an unofficial tourist tax. We might charge the same for everyone in Edinburgh and tourism does benefit the local economy, but a balance has been lost and lots of locals have been priced out of certain areas. Definitely a battle in some places abroad and can spoil a day out. But it often happens in countries where these things cost a pittance anyway. And in places where the majority of the population couldn't afford a tourist visa to visit the UK. I'de say we're mostly a welcoming country. But I guess that question isn't for the locals. Most welcoming place I've ever been is Pakistan. To the point where I couldn't get a fcking minute to myself. But I'm sure there were other areas of the country where I would have got a very different welcome. Edited August 30, 2020 by London Wanderer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: Reckon it's exploitation of tourists rather than racism against whites. Not that the latter doesn't exist in these places. Just evidence of an unofficial tourist tax. We might charge the same for everyone in Edinburgh and tourism does benefit the local economy, but a balance has been lost and lots of locals have been priced out of certain areas. Definitely a battle in some places abroad and can spoil a day out. But it often happens in countries where these things cost a pittance anyway. And in places where the majority of the population couldn't afford a tourist visa to visit the UK. I'de say we're mostly a welcoming country. But I guess that question isn't for the locals. Most welcoming place I've ever been is Pakistan. To the point where I couldn't get a fcking minute to myself. But I'm sure there were other areas of the country where I would have got a very different welcome. In India the signs (at government ran sites) state white skin x price brown skin y price. That’s racism. Dress it up how you want pal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Escobarp said: In India the signs (at government ran sites) state white skin x price brown skin y price. That’s racism. Dress it up how you want pal. aye it definitely is put like that. But charging tourists more than locals isn't IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter only1swanny Posted August 30, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted August 30, 2020 2 hours ago, London Wanderer said: According to the science we're all a little bit racist. Even Cheese 😁 https://www.parents.com/baby/all-about-babies/science-says-everyones-a-little-bit-racist-even-babies/ Clearly though - if you're going to 'call out' racism then you need to have either some evidence, or a decent argument. Whilst myself and Mr. Grey see differently on plenty of things, it seems pretty harsh to label him as such. It isn't a nice thing to accuse someone of and I thought he handled it pretty calmly to be fair. Kinda think it's why the politics of the left is so fractured at the moment. All to quick to label people with opposing views on Brexit or immigration as bigots. It's turned a lot of folk away. Everyone's a little bit racist sometimes.. doesn't mean they go around committing hate crimes... ethnic jokes are so uncouth.. but we laugh because they're based on truth, everyone is mindful of the facts... Everyone is racist.. so relax.. Avenue Q.. gotta love it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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