November 7, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, royal white said: ๐๐ very good. So 100s of thousands expected out this weekend have always been against whatโs happening in the Middle East but only now have decided to turn out. Got ya.ย ย Sometimes it helps to have a think about what you type before diving in.ย The irony...
November 7, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, gonzo said: So why can't these muslim folk just pick another date to protest? One weekend in the whole calendar to avoid yet they pick it. And whats the aim in the protest?ย The vast majority won't be Muslims... And there will be plenty Jewish/Israeli folk there too... The aim of any protest is to protest against something.
November 7, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, Cheese said: The vast majority won't be Muslims... And there will be plenty Jewish/Israeli folk there too... The aim of any protest is to protest against something. How do you know?ย
November 7, 20232 yr 6 minutes ago, gonzo said: So why can't these muslim folk just pick another date to protest? One weekend in the whole calendar to avoid yet they pick it. And whats the aim in the protest?ย For some reason theyโre marching to the yank embassy ๐คท๐ปโโ๏ธ
November 7, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, royal white said: How do you know?ย Because I'm not a fucking moron who's been convinced it's a massive Muslim invasion to topple the Cenotaph.
November 7, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, Cheese said: Because I'm not a fucking moron who's been convinced it's a massive Muslim invasion to topple the Cenotaph. I'm sure even RW doesn't think that's on the agenda Anyhoo...no doubt there will be folk "keeping vigil" a day or two before, and posting about it all over Twitter and FB, to show how patriotic they areย
November 7, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, Cheese said: Because I'm not a fucking moron who's been convinced it's a massive Muslim invasion to topple the Cenotaph. As I said before, think before you typeย
November 7, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, royal white said: As I said before, think before you typeย As I said before, the irony...
November 7, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, Sweep said: I'm sure even RW doesn't think that's on the agenda Anyhoo...no doubt there will be folk "keeping vigil" a day or two before, and posting about it all over Twitter and FB, to show how patriotic they areย Heโs being a Drama queen againย
November 7, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, Sweep said: I'm sure even RW doesn't think that's on the agenda Anyhoo...no doubt there will be folk "keeping vigil" a day or two before, and posting about it all over Twitter and FB, to show how patriotic they areย Whilst having a piss against it
November 7, 20232 yr 18 minutes ago, Cheese said: The vast majority won't be Muslims... And there will be plenty Jewish/Israeli folk there too... The aim of any protest is to protest against something. Why these none Muslim types not marching for the Jews killed in the massacre or waving the Israel flags for the poor innocent Israelis murdered? Do only Muslim deaths count.ย Edited November 7, 20232 yr by Mounts Kipper
November 7, 20232 yr 15 minutes ago, Cheese said: The vast majority won't be Muslims... And there will be plenty Jewish/Israeli folk there too... The aim of any protest is to protest against something. Absolute horseshit. Its a march to support Islam and backed by hordes of left wing professional protesters. Thats why theres coaches going from Muslim strongholds all over the gaff. And again I ask, why this weekend?ย Its like some fuckers arranging a flag shaggers march right in the middle of Eid. Its nothing but antagonistic. ย
November 7, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, gonzo said: Absolute horseshit. Its a march to support Islam and backed by hordes of left wing professional protesters. Thats why theres coaches going from Muslim strongholds all over the gaff. And again I ask, why this weekend?ย Its like some fuckers arranging a flag shaggers march right in the middle of Eid. Its nothing but antagonistic. ย Isnt it happening every weekend?
November 7, 20232 yr 7 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Why these none Muslim types not marching for the Jews killed in the massacre or waving the Israel flags for the poor innocent Israelis murdered? Do only Muslim deaths count.ย Ask them Thats hardly relevant in this discussion
November 7, 20232 yr 7 minutes ago, Casino said: Isnt it happening every weekend? Not on the scale it is this weekend. And why cant they just miss one? ย
November 7, 20232 yr 6 minutes ago, Casino said: Ask them Thats hardly relevant in this discussion Course it's relevant. You think any of these fuckers with megaphones sticking flags on and and defacing monuments actually give two fucks about people on the gaza strip? Do me a favour ffs. ย
November 7, 20232 yr 16 minutes ago, gonzo said: Course it's relevant. You think any of these fuckers with megaphones sticking flags on and and defacing monuments actually give two fucks about people on the gaza strip? Do me a favour ffs. ย Its not relevant as its a discussion over whether it should be banned There need to be grounds to ban it and i dont think stickers and megaphones cut it ย Still braverman has managed to make it an issue and it appeals to her extreme base
November 7, 20232 yr 5 minutes ago, Casino said: Its not relevant as its a discussion over whether it should be banned There need to be grounds to ban it and i dont think stickers and megaphones cut it ย Still braverman has managed to make it an issue and it appeals to her extreme base It is an issue, She is one of, if not the only person who can get it banned. She has probably seen that the Met arenโt doing enough to stop the violence that theyโre predicting at the weekend.ย
November 7, 20232 yr 23 minutes ago, gonzo said: Course it's relevant. You think any of these fuckers with megaphones sticking flags on and and defacing monuments actually give two fucks about people on the gaza strip? Do me a favour ffs. ย I think most probably do have concern over Gazans in fairness, but what seems equally, if not more important, is being antisemitic, anti western and generally distasteful in their approach.ย Attacking an ex serviceman selling poppies is hardly the efforts and anyone singularly concerned with the people of Gaza, exercising their right of lawful assembly, and more about something more sinister.
November 7, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, royal white said: This might come as news to you. The ones marching arenโt attending a game ๐คฆ๐ป Iโm guessing you know more about the bloke in the clip than me, thereโs nothing from what Iโve seen suggesting heโs jumping on a bandwagon.ย You've struggled a bit with this analogy haven't youย โค๏ธ That's okay I'll make it simple Police work week in week out with football clubs and fans to help keep the peace. We know people come looking for trouble and they are dealt with separately and given banning orders or arrested etc. Not everyone is stopped from attending the games because of the idiots.ย ย Let's apply the same tactics to policing of protestsย ๐ You obviously disagree and want it banned or moved to Monday. Let's see what the police go with and agree to disagree on this one.ย Edited November 7, 20232 yr by London Wanderer
November 7, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, royal white said: It is an issue, She is one of, if not the only person who can get it banned. She has probably seen that the Met arenโt doing enough to stop the violence that theyโre predicting at the weekend.ย Its not her decision, dont you get it? An independent police force is very important
November 7, 20232 yr As for saturday, its really not important to meย whether its banned or not But, if its banned cos of government pressure, its a very troubling development, imo
November 7, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, Casino said: Its not her decision, dont you get it? An independent police force is very important If the police want it stopped then itโs ย her decision. Itโs quite bonkers that you donโt think Home Secretary should be involved with this.ย ย ย
November 7, 20232 yr 5 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: You've struggled a bit with this analogy haven't youย โค๏ธ That's okay I'll make it simple Police work week in week out with football clubs and fans to help keep the peace. We know people come looking for trouble and they are dealt with separately and given banning orders or arrested etc. Not everyone is stopped from attending the games because of the idiots.ย ย Let's apply the same tactics to policing of protestsย ๐ You obviously disagree and want it banned or moved to Monday. Let's see what the police go with and agree to disagree on this one.ย When football clubs work with the police they also pay them. Who will be paying for this March? And yes In some cases everyone from one side have been stopped from attending because of the actions of others.ย
November 7, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: There may be people planning a peaceful march, but so far I don't think there has been a single one. Absolutely no evidence that they can manage peaceful protest. I could send you reels upon reels of thousands of people marching down the street, peacefully, holding banners that say 'ceasefire, stop the war, free Gaza' etc. etc. But I won't bore you with it.ย The Met Police have said they are concerned aboutย breakaway groups.ย They clearly accept that it's not the majority. So why are you assuming it is? I get there are some horrendous videos out there, but that's not evidence they're all at it. Unless you were there and saw things differently?ย I find it bonkers that people think the organisers of something as fluid and diverse as a protest should be responsible for the actions of everyone on that protest.ย ย
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