Meanwhile in Israel

[Zico]

3 hours ago, Cheese said:

Where are you getting all this, about Mosques sending coachloads of Muslims, and the march being "in the name of Islam" etc? Genuinely interested. You seem to know more than the coppers.

He's organised the coaches 

[Traf]

From a moral/respect perspective, the organisers of this march should postpone this weekend.

But that decision should be theirs to make. 

Once the Government starts banning marches/assemblies that they don't like, we're on a slippery slope and a further erosion of our rights.

[bolty58]

13 hours ago, Casino said:

it looks like you are suggesting you feel some fucking gammon are going to break the law

lock their doors, dont let them out of their homes

ever

Clear which side you will be if the time ever comes.

[bolty58]

10 hours ago, Casino said:

Its quite bonkers you cant see its a very shit development when politicians take over the running of the police

But, to be expected

match time x

..and yet you seem delighted that the Democratis in government in the USA has taken over the running of the judiciary to use as a weapon. Curious double standards. Learned at Walshaw Madrasa by any chance?

[bolty58]

7 hours ago, BobyBrno said:

Two different links. How can anyone believe what Hamas says.

 

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/sabrina-maddeaux-i-watched-hamas-hack-innocents-to-death-the-worst-part-was-their-glee

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67321241

 

‘Hamas leader refuses to acknowledge killing of civilians in Israel’

 

Brainwashed mate. They don't want to see the horror which is right in front of them.

Israel must ignore the bleaters and exterminate the repulsive, primitive cunts.

[gonzo]

7 hours ago, London Wanderer said:

 

 It must be fckn exhausting being so scared of Muslims that you’d rather be dead than see a few more on your street.

 

Think it boils down to their religion and set of beliefs that simply have no place in our society.

Nobody is bothered about foreign folk living on their street.

Immigration is fantastic and has made our country and fantastically diverse place.

Islam is a different kettle of fish all together. 

Its that faith that is the problem. 

[gonzo]

7 hours ago, London Wanderer said:

Haha. The irony 😉

 It’s really, really simple.

We all know there will be breakaway groups of idiots on Saturday. We can expect it like clockwork. But there is no evidence to suggest it is more than a minority.

And you can’t ban, or rearrange a protest, (like you’ve been pleading the Met to do), if there is no evidence of widespread, serious trouble. 
 

If you’ve not got more intel than the Met officers do then you’re just going to have to fck it get down to that statue lad 👍

Unless you try sending them the Blackburn posters? 

 

They should just do the right thing and not hold a protest march on remembrance weekend.

It really is that easy and simple.

You know this though. Deep down you know it would be the right thing to do.

It would save all this. It would stop and problem and more reason for division and it would probably help their cause.

But no. They will crack on anyway without a single thought about what takes place on that one single weekend a year the British people ask to be left free. 

One weekend. One.

Id be saying the same if it was an LGBTQ  or Buddhist Monk march.

Nothing to do with trouble causing or intel on extremists.

It's about fucking respect.

Which it appears nobody has any left.

One weekend. One to remember all our men and women who have died for this country and they cant just stay quiet and pay some respect for one weekend.

They should be embarrassed and ashamed including yourself for defending it.

One weekend thats all our country asks. One.

[little whitt]

8 hours ago, gonzo said:

All these bus loads of non Islamic supporters of Palestine. 

They must all have family there or something?

Can you take ALE on 

[Spider]

Calling it a Hate March is pure Orwell.

In 1984 they have a daily 2 Minutes Hate and an annual Hate Week, where “the enemy” vilified and a general orgasm of hatred is encouraged amongst the workers.

So for that , she’s a massive cunt and isn’t helping.

Regarding the March, just do it the following week. Whoever organised that is also a cunt.

that many people all converging on the same city at once, clearly with opposing views, is just a recipe for violence. Which some people on both sides are probably delighted about.

Common sense says keep these emotive groups well separated.

[London Wanderer]

8 hours ago, wanderer1984 said:

Nick who?

A tit 🙄 .... boring. You'll be mentioning that bnp post next 😂 

Anyway ... who said I'm scared? Never give it much thought.

It's inevitable ... the likes of you and your ilk pandering and how things are changing.

 

Aye it was exactly the same as the Nazi lad's post 👍

Not a single bit of truth in it 🤣

Imagine being scared of a 'Islamic takeover' that isn't even forecaster to happen. 

Best log in as Johnny for a bit mate, you've had a right mare. 

[London Wanderer]

1 hour ago, gonzo said:

They should just do the right thing and not hold a protest march on remembrance weekend.

It really is that easy and simple.

You know this though. Deep down you know it would be the right thing to do.

It would save all this. It would stop and problem and more reason for division and it would probably help their cause.

But no. They will crack on anyway without a single thought about what takes place on that one single weekend a year the British people ask to be left free. 

One weekend. One.

Id be saying the same if it was an LGBTQ  or Buddhist Monk march.

Nothing to do with trouble causing or intel on extremists.

It's about fucking respect.

Which it appears nobody has any left.

One weekend. One to remember all our men and women who have died for this country and they cant just stay quiet and pay some respect for one weekend.

They should be embarrassed and ashamed including yourself for defending it.

One weekend thats all our country asks. One.

Of course I know this 👍 you don't need to get all deep down on me. It would be the right thing to do. I never said it wouldn't, other than giving you someone else's opinion. Not everyone there is doing it to disrespect Armistice, you've just assumed that they will because many are Muslim. 

My defence isn't for the protest organisers, I'm defending anyone's right to organise peaceful protest, whenever they want to. That's the country we live in and I won't back a government that pushes these boundaries. It would be a worrying trend if things were being banned without the intelligence. 

If the intel isn't there that lots of people are looking to cause trouble (which you were saying a while back) then it shouldn't be called off. 

Time to leave them to it now - they've not done themselves any favours in terms of public support anyway. 

Edited November 8, 2023 by London Wanderer

[Sweep]

47 minutes ago, Spider said:

Calling it a Hate March is pure Orwell.

In 1984 they have a daily 2 Minutes Hate and an annual Hate Week, where “the enemy” vilified and a general orgasm of hatred is encouraged amongst the workers.

So for that , she’s a massive cunt and isn’t helping.

 

Let's be clear, she knows exactly what she's doing. 

She knows that the Conservative Party is toast at the next GE, so I suspect that she wants to be sacked from her current role, so that she can, as best as possible, distance herself from the landslide defeat. 

She'll then make a play for the leadership, once Sunak has been sacked. She'll then promise to take them further "right", which the membership will lap up 

[athywhite1958]

Looks like the Met have backed down and are allowing the march to go ahead

I predict a riot

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

33 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

My defence isn't for the protest organisers, I'm defending anyone's right to organise peaceful protest, whenever they want to. 

You previously defended the police removing posters of Israeli hostages on the basis that it might inflame community tensions

[Traf]

2 hours ago, gonzo said:

They should just do the right thing and not hold a protest march on remembrance weekend.

It really is that easy and simple.

You know this though. Deep down you know it would be the right thing to do.

It would save all this. It would stop and problem and more reason for division and it would probably help their cause.

But no. They will crack on anyway without a single thought about what takes place on that one single weekend a year the British people ask to be left free. 

One weekend. One.

Id be saying the same if it was an LGBTQ  or Buddhist Monk march.

Nothing to do with trouble causing or intel on extremists.

It's about fucking respect.

Which it appears nobody has any left.

One weekend. One to remember all our men and women who have died for this country and they cant just stay quiet and pay some respect for one weekend.

They should be embarrassed and ashamed including yourself for defending it.

One weekend thats all our country asks. One.

I don't many of us disagree with much of this.
I think there's some crossed wires on here, though. 

They shouldn't be marching this weekend, but they MUST be allowed to do so.
We can't go down the route of a government deciding when and where protests take place and what the subject matter is.

As for the suggestion by some that it's a pro-terrorism march, that's frankly quite preposterous.

[Duck Egg]

1 hour ago, gonzo said:

 

It's about fucking respect.

Which it appears nobody has any left.

One weekend. One to remember all our men and women who have died for this country and they cant just stay quiet and pay some respect for one weekend.

They should be embarrassed and ashamed including yourself for defending it.

One weekend thats all our country asks. One.

When did 11am on remembrance Sunday suddenly become a whole remembrance weekend where we all have to stay quiet and pay respect? Is there no football on? Are the shops closed?

A planned demo on Saturday that doesn't go near the cenotaph is disrespectful? Nah. The real disrespect is the Home Secretary and assorted right wing groups talking up the hatred and trying to create a flash point at what has always planned to be a peaceful march. Like all the others going on around the country and the world.

We/you can all do the 2 minutes thing on Sunday at 11am. Nobody's preventing that. You can do it on Saturday the 11th too if that's now a thing. 

[Not in Crawley]

1 hour ago, Spider said:

Calling it a Hate March is pure Orwell.

In 1984 they have a daily 2 Minutes Hate and an annual Hate Week, where “the enemy” vilified and a general orgasm of hatred is encouraged amongst the workers.

So for that , she’s a massive cunt and isn’t helping.

Regarding the March, just do it the following week. Whoever organised that is also a cunt.

that many people all converging on the same city at once, clearly with opposing views, is just a recipe for violence. Which some people on both sides are probably delighted about.

Common sense says keep these emotive groups well separated.

Ah, but why do they have opposing views? 

That's my issue. You can respect armistice day and also have an issue with what is going on in Palestine.

I'm not having the likes of the war Christmas lot take over remembrance Sunday.

It's also taking place in the city where I live and there's very little fuss here. Funnily enough the Met are pretty good at managing large numbers. It's quite a big place.

 

[Not in Crawley]

5 minutes ago, Traf said:

I don't many of us disagree with much of this.
I think there's some crossed wires on here, though. 

They shouldn't be marching this weekend, but they MUST be allowed to do so.
We can't go down the route of a government deciding when and where protests take place and what the subject matter is.

As for the suggestion by some that it's a pro-terrorism march, that's frankly quite preposterous.

But some on here have been stoked by Braverman's agenda. 

[Spider]

2 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Ah, but why do they have opposing views? 

That's my issue. You can respect armistice day and also have an issue with what is going on in Palestine.

I'm not having the likes of the war Christmas lot take over remembrance Sunday.

It's also taking place in the city where I live and there's very little fuss here. Funnily enough the Met are pretty good at managing large numbers. It's quite a big place.

 

There’ll be trouble

Just don’t act surprised when there is.

[Traf]

Just now, Not in Crawley said:

But some on here have been stoked by Braverman's agenda. 

Then she's succeeding, which sadly is no surprise.

She's pure fucking evil.

[Not in Crawley]

Just now, Spider said:

There’ll be trouble

Just don’t act surprised when there is.

And what if there is? We live in a free country last time I looked. 

If there is, it'll be interesting to see how it's reported. 

[Not in Crawley]

1 minute ago, Traf said:

Then she's succeeding, which sadly is no surprise.

She's pure fucking evil.

Amazing that she's a Buddist.

[Spider]

9 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

And what if there is? We live in a free country last time I looked. 

If there is, it'll be interesting to see how it's reported. 

#AllahAggro

[Traf]

9 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Amazing that she's a Buddist.

As is Ashin Wirathu. 

Every group has bad apples.

[royal white]

19 minutes ago, Duck Egg said:

When did 11am on remembrance Sunday suddenly become a whole remembrance weekend where we all have to stay quiet and pay respect? Is there no football on? Are the shops closed?

A planned demo on Saturday that doesn't go near the cenotaph is disrespectful? Nah. The real disrespect is the Home Secretary and assorted right wing groups talking up the hatred and trying to create a flash point at what has always planned to be a peaceful march. Like all the others going on around the country and the world.

We/you can all do the 2 minutes thing on Sunday at 11am. Nobody's preventing that. You can do it on Saturday the 11th too if that's now a thing. 

Who has told you that?