November 7, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, Cheese said: How come it's suddenly become "Armistice Weekend"? https://www.britishlegion.org.uk/get-involved/remembrance/about-remembrance/armistice-day Because not every year armistice day and Remembrance Day land on the same weekend so maybe refer to it as a weekend? Does it really matter though?
November 7, 20232 yr I think it should be borne in mind that Armistice Day is a day of remembrance not protest Protest if they must, but it's nonsense to claim Armistice Day provides added justification
November 7, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, royal white said: Because not every year armistice day and Remembrance Day land on the same weekend so maybe refer to it as a weekend? Does it really matter though? It's exactly that
November 7, 20232 yr 5 minutes ago, royal white said: Because not every year armistice day and Remembrance Day land on the same weekend so maybe refer to it as a weekend? Does it really matter though? Aye, it just clicked. My bad.
November 7, 20232 yr 42 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Needs banning. It’s simple. is it fuck 'simple' and it sure as fuck shouldnt have braverman pressuring plod to ban it thin end of the wedge
November 7, 20232 yr 8 minutes ago, Casino said: is it fuck 'simple' and it sure as fuck shouldnt have braverman pressuring plod to ban it thin end of the wedge In my opinion it’s her duty to ban it. There is a very real danger of serious trouble. Let them March on any other weekend. Edited November 7, 20232 yr by Mounts Kipper
November 7, 20232 yr 14 minutes ago, Casino said: is it fuck 'simple' and it sure as fuck shouldnt have braverman pressuring plod to ban it thin end of the wedge Why?
November 7, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, royal white said: Why? because its a police decision the police are supposedly independent
November 7, 20232 yr 6 minutes ago, Casino said: because its a police decision the police are supposedly independent The met can’t decide fuck all they are incompetent, Islamic advisors advising them who call for destruction of Israeli… government should take control and stop it. Edited November 7, 20232 yr by Mounts Kipper
November 7, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: The met can’t decide fuck all they are incompetent, Islamic advisors advising them who call for destruction of Israeli… government should take control and stop it.
November 7, 20232 yr 9 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: The met can’t decide fuck all they are incompetent, Islamic advisors advising them who call for destruction of Israeli… government should take control and stop it. hi suella
November 7, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, royal white said: Whatabout whatabout whatabout, 😂😂 why do you keep comparing football fans to those supposedly marching for peace? Just a comparison mate. Glad it tickled you though. we see a lot of trouble in and around football games over the course of the weekend. More arrests than we saw at the demo last Saturday. But nobody talks about banning football. And rightly so. That would be nonsense. So why ban a protest because you don’t like them or there’s a chance a minority will kick off? It’s a democracy is it not? Free speech an all that. Would you ban it? Edited November 7, 20232 yr by London Wanderer
November 7, 20232 yr 13 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: Just a comparison mate. Glad it tickled you though. we see a lot of trouble in and around football games over the course of the weekend. More arrests than we saw at the demo last Saturday. But nobody talks about banning football. And rightly so. That would be nonsense. So why ban a protest because you don’t like them or there’s a chance a minority will kick off? It’s a democracy is it not? Free speech an all that. Would you ban it? How many? Millions attended football last weekend millions didn’t attend a March. If the millions who attended football acted like the protestors did there would have been a lot more arrests at the footy. Those attending the footy weren’t attending a peace rally/protest.
November 7, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said: Needs banning. It’s simple. I'd rather all these types of march and protest were banned, but that'll get the "freedom of speech" and "democracy" types having a go at me. In this instance though, I've no doubt it should be rescheduled to another weekend. This just feels like outright provocation. Although, I can't help but think that extremists on both sides will think all their Christmases/Eids have come at once, as it'll be a great opportunity to kick off.......and let's be honest, it'll be us infidels that kick off first
November 7, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Casino said: because its a police decision the police are supposedly independent Absolutely. Begs the question though, given the recent disorder, the attacking of a 78 year old poppy seller by such folk, and a big remembrance weekend approaching, why hasn't the met commissioner applied to the home secretary to ban them this weekend? There is ample evidence to support such an application, and there is no cloudiness around the meaning of "jihad" etc. I have plenty of sympathy for the police- they're between a rock and a hard place, but light touch policing hadn't been respected by the protestors and conversely, it has emboldened bad behaviour.
November 7, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: . I have plenty of sympathy for the police- they're between a rock and a hard place, but light touch policing hadn't been respected by the protestors and conversely, it has emboldened bad behaviour. isnt that the case in most cases, though fwiw, id crack heads for anybody acting the cunt outside the law, whichever 'side' they are on
November 7, 20232 yr There should be a nationwide curfew for the entire weekend, just in case anyone is thinking of saying something Suella Braverman doesn't like.
November 7, 20232 yr How difficult is it to have it on a different weekend? No one is losing their freedom of speech like some drama queens are suggesting.
November 7, 20232 yr 11 minutes ago, Casino said: isnt that the case in most cases, though fwiw, id crack heads for anybody acting the cunt outside the law, whichever 'side' they are on Aye and then you get a full on outcry from the Muslims that the met police are racist and compo claims galore. It’s not rocket science, needs postponing to another weekend. Personally I’d ban it full stop… they’ve made a point, just asking for trouble here on in. Get it sorted Suella… do your duty. Edited November 7, 20232 yr by Mounts Kipper
November 7, 20232 yr 19 minutes ago, Cheese said: There should be a nationwide curfew for the entire weekend, just in case anyone is thinking of saying something Suella Braverman doesn't like. What was her other bright idea? Anybody talking down the country to be classed as an extremist?
November 7, 20232 yr https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/06/organisers-of-pro-palestine-marches-fear-ban-on-saturdays-protest-in-london Ben Jamal, the director of the Palestine Solidarity Campaign, a key organiser of the protests that have brought hundreds of thousands of people on to the streets of London in recent weeks, said the police appeared to be under growing political pressure. He said: “I would say now, there are absolutely no legitimate grounds for [a ban]. Some time ago, we indicated that on the 11th [of November], we would not be going anywhere near [the Cenotaph] … We knew that would be inappropriate … We’ve not had that information [of a ban] from the police. But what I’m aware of is the police are under immense pressure.” Speaking earlier on Monday, Jonathan Hall, the independent reviewer of terrorism legislation, suggested he would be concerned by any attempt to ban the march. “My instinct must be that you should always err in favour of freedom of expression,” he said, adding that he hoped the protest would be closely controlled.
November 7, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, Cheese said: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/06/organisers-of-pro-palestine-marches-fear-ban-on-saturdays-protest-in-london Ben Jamal, the director of the Palestine Solidarity Campaign, a key organiser of the protests that have brought hundreds of thousands of people on to the streets of London in recent weeks, said the police appeared to be under growing political pressure. He said: “I would say now, there are absolutely no legitimate grounds for [a ban]. Some time ago, we indicated that on the 11th [of November], we would not be going anywhere near [the Cenotaph] … We knew that would be inappropriate … We’ve not had that information [of a ban] from the police. But what I’m aware of is the police are under immense pressure.” Speaking earlier on Monday, Jonathan Hall, the independent reviewer of terrorism legislation, suggested he would be concerned by any attempt to ban the march. “My instinct must be that you should always err in favour of freedom of expression,” he said, adding that he hoped the protest would be closely controlled. The police shouldn’t need political pressure for this, common sense would help. If common sense isn’t applied then it’s right for the government to get involved.
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