Meanwhile in Israel

[Tonge moor green jacket]

40 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said:

You think there won't be more people, who when they hear more, and whether it never affected them or not won't change their minds??

Really??

No, not many. 

Folk have already made their mind up.

For example, if Johnson, Hancock et al, give evidence to the contrary, and paint a better picture, will anyone believe it?

Moreover, those incumbents are now gone, but folk have made their mind up, and largely won't focus on the new people.

Minds already made up when it comes to covid performance.

A few will obviously be swayed, but it won't make a massive difference. The big issues of the day will be the most critical, and are most likely to determine voting colour.

[globaldiver]

Just now, DirtySanchez said:

It's not really an interesting question.

You could just give an opinion without trying to deflect 

The answer is there; don’t know. 
 

And fuck off for your sneer 😁

[mickbrown]

22 minutes ago, globaldiver said:

Go on then…..

[globaldiver]

1 minute ago, mickbrown said:

Go on then…..

14

[mickbrown]

Just now, globaldiver said:

14

Fanny

[globaldiver]

4 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Fanny

Quite, I’m a do gooding, liberal, wet, tree hugging piece of shit.

Where’s my Palestine flag gone?

[DirtySanchez]

6 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

No, not many. 

Folk have already made their mind up.

For example, if Johnson, Hancock et al, give evidence to the contrary, and paint a better picture, will anyone believe it?

Moreover, those incumbents are now gone, but folk have made their mind up, and largely won't focus on the new people.

Minds already made up when it comes to covid performance.

A few will obviously be swayed, but it won't make a massive difference. The big issues of the day will be the most critical, and are most likely to determine voting colour.

Hancock is still an MP isn't he? 

Johnson is writing in the Sunday Mail 

Not exactly gone away 

There will be those who've made up their mind up, but there will be those who may never have been affected but can see now what a shitshow it was 

They can change their minds 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

4 minutes ago, globaldiver said:

Quite, I’m a do gooding, liberal, wet, tree hugging piece of shit.

Where’s my Palestine flag gone?

Made from plastic no doubt!

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

3 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said:

Hancock is still an MP isn't he? 

Johnson is writing in the Sunday Mail 

Not exactly gone away 

There will be those who've made up their mind up, but there will be those who may never have been affected but can see now what a shitshow it was 

They can change their minds 

Of course folk can. That's different to will.

The people you mention aren't in their positions though and that was my point. They aren't able to continue doing whatever folk consider was wrong.

Interesting that you say shit show- that suggests you've already made your mind up, which is my point. The next witnesses could all say very much the opposite and it won't make any difference. 

Fwiw, this is why I'm not arsed about following the blood letting sessions- we already know that some aspects of the approach were shite. Others were good.

No one had ever had to deal with anything like it, and whatever approach was taken was going to be questioned and pilloried in some quarters.

Just have to go back to the discussions on here at the time: some saying that lockdowns were too slow, others saying the opposite etc. I've no doubt that it was chaotic, and lots of arguing and bitching, however had it been a smoother process, then whatever approach had been taken would still have been criticised by some.

Not everyone agrees with each other on anything, let alone processes aimed at tackling a pandemic. 

[DirtySanchez]

3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Of course folk can. That's different to will.

The people you mention aren't in their positions though and that was my point. They aren't able to continue doing whatever folk consider was wrong.

Interesting that you say shit show- that suggests you've already made your mind up, which is my point. The next witnesses could all say very much the opposite and it won't make any difference. 

Fwiw, this is why I'm not arsed about following the blood letting sessions- we already know that some aspects of the approach were shite. Others were good.

No one had ever had to deal with anything like it, and whatever approach was taken was going to be questioned and pilloried in some quarters.

Just have to go back to the discussions on here at the time: some saying that lockdowns were too slow, others saying the opposite etc. I've no doubt that it was chaotic, and lots of arguing and bitching, however had it been a smoother process, then whatever approach had been taken would still have been criticised by some.

Not everyone agrees with each other on anything, let alone processes aimed at tackling a pandemic. 

Ok so you think a PM taking a COVID injection is a good idea. Or a hairdryer up the nose 

That's up to you, but come on that's stupidity of the highest level 

What's coming out in the inquiry is the total incompetence of the Govt 

I don't buy that that it's unprecedented given we were warned by so many countries

[globaldiver]

6 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said:

Ok so you think a PM taking a COVID injection is a good idea. Or a hairdryer up the nose 

That's up to you, but come on that's stupidity of the highest level 

What's coming out in the inquiry is the total incompetence of the Govt 

I don't buy that that it's unprecedented given we were warned by so many countries

Mr Hindsight 

 

[mickbrown]

35 minutes ago, globaldiver said:

Quite, I’m a do gooding, liberal, wet, tree hugging piece of shit.

Where’s my Palestine flag gone?

Under your rainbow LGBT one

[mickbrown]

23 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Of course folk can. That's different to will.

The people you mention aren't in their positions though and that was my point. They aren't able to continue doing whatever folk consider was wrong.

Interesting that you say shit show- that suggests you've already made your mind up, which is my point. The next witnesses could all say very much the opposite and it won't make any difference. 

Fwiw, this is why I'm not arsed about following the blood letting sessions- we already know that some aspects of the approach were shite. Others were good.

No one had ever had to deal with anything like it, and whatever approach was taken was going to be questioned and pilloried in some quarters.

Just have to go back to the discussions on here at the time: some saying that lockdowns were too slow, others saying the opposite etc. I've no doubt that it was chaotic, and lots of arguing and bitching, however had it been a smoother process, then whatever approach had been taken would still have been criticised by some.

Not everyone agrees with each other on anything, let alone processes aimed at tackling a pandemic. 

What we are certain of is that useless sack of shit was the last person we needed ‘leading’ us in a time of crisis. 

Edited November 9, 2023 by mickbrown

[DazBob]

2 minutes ago, globaldiver said:

Mr Hindsight 

 

Still waiting on you to explain why lockdown probably wasn't the right thing...

Edited November 9, 2023 by DazBob

[DirtySanchez]

2 minutes ago, globaldiver said:

Mr Hindsight 

 

How do you think we learn from mistakes on the past?

[Cheese]

5 minutes ago, globaldiver said:

Mr Hindsight 

'Hindsight' is the entire point of the enquiry.

[DirtySanchez]

4 minutes ago, Cheese said:

'Hindsight' is the entire point of the enquiry.

Yeah but Tories are getting their arses handed over and he doesn't like it

[Not in Crawley]

I thought the protests had started early. Turns out it was Olympiacos fans taking over Piccadilly Circus 😁 

[DirtySanchez]

5 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

I thought the protests had started early. Turns out it was Olympiacos fans taking over Piccadilly Circus 😁 

As a member of AEK I hope those cunts drown in the fountain 😃

[Not in Crawley]

9 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said:

As a member of AEK I hope those cunts drown in the fountain 😃

Thats one small fountain to drown in.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

20 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

What we are certain of is that useless sack of shit was the last person we needed ‘leading’ us in a time of crisis. 

Maybe: he doesn't seem to have been very decisive, though I think it's important that whoever is in charge during such a time listens to all views.

Point I'm making is that irrespective of quality of leadership, the process and route taken would never have pleased everybody.

32 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said:

Ok so you think a PM taking a COVID injection is a good idea. Or a hairdryer up the nose 

That's up to you, but come on that's stupidity of the highest level 

What's coming out in the inquiry is the total incompetence of the Govt 

I don't buy that that it's unprecedented given we were warned by so many countries

Absolutely no idea of what you're talking about, let alone having made any comments remotely to that effect.

If it's something from the enquiry then I've already said I've not been following it, and certainly haven't offered an opinion on it.

A truly odd statement.

Strangely, I'm finding that since the covid pandemic we have a society full of odd, inaccurate, spurious, selective commenting. Perhaps it is the effect on mental health which is often reported on.

Which is also then used as an argument against lockdowns in some quarters, which again illustrates the point that you can't please everyone.

[Cheese]

1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Absolutely no idea of what you're talking about, let alone having made any comments remotely to that effect.

If it's something from the enquiry then I've already said I've not been following it, and certainly haven't offered an opinion on it.

A truly odd statement.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67347456

[BobyBrno]

Been out all day. What happened to the Israel thread?

[DirtySanchez]

56 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Thats one small fountain to drown in.

Only takes about a couple of inches to drown 

[DirtySanchez]

57 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Maybe: he doesn't seem to have been very decisive, though I think it's important that whoever is in charge during such a time listens to all views.

Point I'm making is that irrespective of quality of leadership, the process and route taken would never have pleased everybody.

Absolutely no idea of what you're talking about, let alone having made any comments remotely to that effect.

If it's something from the enquiry then I've already said I've not been following it, and certainly haven't offered an opinion on it.

A truly odd statement.

Strangely, I'm finding that since the covid pandemic we have a society full of odd, inaccurate, spurious, selective commenting. Perhaps it is the effect on mental health which is often reported on.

Which is also then used as an argument against lockdowns in some quarters, which again illustrates the point that you can't please everyone.

What planet is it that you live on?